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Hi folks. My ski pylon has a 5-10 degree bend/angle directly above mounting bracket
I’m guessing the pylon should be straight and years of use bent above floor 67SN appears to be solid metal very heavy I was going to have it straightened but wanted to verify Thx much |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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Let’s see a picture. Most pylons were bent from the factory but not until 71.
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Thanks for that, working on pictures now (iPhone)
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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![]() Daryn, That's not a 67 pylon but, as Tim mentioned a later intentionally bent. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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No, the graduations seem to indicate it’s a 67 as advertised... though the pic could be a little clearer to be sure. The bend is in the right spot for a factory pylon but I haven’t seen one this early with the bend. My early pylons like this are straight. Let’s get some clearer pictures and an overall length. |
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It does have several graduations and extremely heavy, bent right at support mount floor level
The first picture link ‘F97’ shows closeup of base Maybe I should try and fit it again and see if appropriate |
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Tim, I'm confused. First you say it's a 67 then not one with the bend as early as 67. I still feel it's not a 67 pylon. Keep in mind many were dealer installed and I personally installed probably 10 of them back then in the late 60's. They weren't even the aluminum ones until the eary 70's. |
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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46” overall (including 2.5” pin), sets into bronze plate glassed to hull
Very heavy no aluminum |
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7963 |
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That's a mystery pylon...bent aluminum with graduations?
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Does NOT appear to be aluminum. Very heavy and solid
It has been sanded for powder coating and rust removal Only looks aluminum |
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Identical to dads ‘75
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Yes you are. I have not seen a factory bent pylon prior to 71. ‘67 was the last full year of those graduated steel pylons. Ive never seen a bent graduated pylon. The gentle curve of this one does sort of look like it was bent through use... the factory bent ones have a more distinctive (sharper) bend and it’s several inches above the floor. Now, I’m less familiar with the Cuda’s... the bent pylons do clear things like bench seats much better than the straight ones. Is this out of a SN? Aluminum pylons started in ‘73 btw... first with the small diameter then moving to 2.5” around mid ‘75. Solid straight steel was common 68-70 (smooth replacing the graduated) and then the same style (with a bend added) for 71-72. 71 and earlier usually painted but a lot of 72 were polished/chromed. The ring/finger style was consistent mid 60’s through 72, then the newer style (finger added later rather than bent) came in 73 and used through 87. |
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No no, look closely- very different in every way. Diameter might be close but it’s a different material and style- both base and r/f. |
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If that got bent by use, there should be a dent in the motor box. What were they dragging?
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Yes 67 SN
And the condition and mounting of bracket appeared to be original and never removed, looked 50 years old in there Pylon was rusted to support bracket I’m fabricating new support bracket If bent pylons were bent above floor that may answer questions This one bent below floor It was a Horton ski school boat so maybe tons of use, pulling docks etc?? |
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Before the powder, get it in a press and straighten it. |
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The factory bent pylons don’t interfere the with the box... why would a similarly bent pylon from use interfere? We’ve bent pylons with 15+ people. Adding an extended pylon (with forward support) and continuing to pull from down low seems to effectively prevent that. |
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Thanks Gentlemen. Your comments lead me to think it is bent from use
Straightening prior powder coat Much appreciate |
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I agree. What bracketry are you fabricating? |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11191 |
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He's probably duplicating the (are you ready for this Pete?) non original piece of what looks like angle iron that runs between his stringers. Here's a picture of his boat's pylon posted by the previous owner when he bought it as a 300 dollar project boat ![]() ![]() |
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Yes, your pylon is bent.
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Oh bingo. Should I refab that support bracket.
Thanks for finding that picture I kinda like the bracket |
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I kinda like it too. More pictures scattered through the link below Looks like the bend is right at the bracket so much like the age old chicken or the egg argument, it makes you wonder what came first, the bend or the bracket. I'd refab the bracket, but that's just my opinion. ![]() link |
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Your poor boats... |
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Idk, my dads ‘75 is same style. Bend appears same, not saying it is. What’s different on R&F? Same graduations in same spot. The one in my dads is definitely less common than all the others I’ve seen. The above mentioned pylon is probably the only closest match. But the material is different. |
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Let’s see a pic todd. You’re describing a 66-67 pylon pretty well, lol. I assume you see the steps/graduations at 4” and 12” below the bottom of the ring in his picture. None of the aluminum pylons have that- just a chamfer at the top. The 73-75 pylon is smaller diameter than the 76+ (2ish vs 2.5” diameter) but both are aluminum and share the same r/f.
Ring and finger from 64-72 is the same, but different from the 73-87 style. Which does your dads 75 match? The most obvious difference is the finger, bent with a flat end on the early and straight with a round end on the later. |
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KENO. What’s next, pictures of all the fat chics I dated in high school
That pic of previous owners bildge is embarrassing It is all new now |
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Daryn Try working on posting pictures again. Love to see the "new". |
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