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The 1st, (your favorite) got done beginning of August. The last beginning of December.
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Sounds like you’re winterizing too early?
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Is Canadian grass known to be fragile?


Must be, because the grass no sooner turns back to green after spring time fire up, then it turns brown again from winterizing. We blame it on Dave.
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Is Canadian grass known to be fragile?
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

These seem a lot simpler if you don't like using a wrench on the hex plug.. Harnden Marine make them out of stainless if you don't like plastic.

https://www.amazon.com/Mercruiser-Replacement-Drain-Plug-Kit/dp/B01LFS3KAC/ref=asc_df_B01LFS3KAC/?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=&hvpos=&hvnetw=o&hvrand=&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583932699466217&psc=1


Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Those don’t look like pipe threads


That's because they're not

For something like the block drain that's usually a 1/4 NPT they use an adapter to go from the 1/4 NPT to the size of the plastic plug threads that are just normal ol' 1/2-13 straight threads with a little groove for the O ring that does the sealing
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Like either of you two could find any grass when it's 100 below out....

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

It's been a mild, warm winter. Grass will be sprouting in a few weeks...

Bruce,
Not here! I had -23 on the lezmobile thermometer on the way to work this morning. And, we still have about 18" of snow on the flat.

BTW, I don't have any grass to test the AF on come spring. I'll go to a neighbors and dump a gal to see what happens!


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It's been a mild, warm winter. Grass will be sprouting in a few weeks...
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Like either of you two could find any grass when it's 100 below out....
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

For those that install anti freeze in the blocks, where does that product go when the boat is launched next year.
Anti Freeze is pretty toxic stuff to put in our waterways.
It think a system drain is safe and not toxic.


"Propylene Glycol based. Glycol based antifreeze is safe on your lawn, septic tank, and storm sewers. As it is a mineral oil it also will lubricate the seals as opposed to dry them out. But the most amusing fact about it is that there is nothing that suggests it is harmful to ingest. I wanted to back this fact up so I checked the MSDS and the only reference to health effects is it may cause diarrhea if ingested in large quantities. Many studies on rodents have shown no long term effect on them as well."


They say it's non toxic, but it kills my grass. Dump a gallon on your grass and see what happens.
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Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

For those that install anti freeze in the blocks, where does that product go when the boat is launched next year.
Anti Freeze is pretty toxic stuff to put in our waterways.
It think a system drain is safe and not toxic.


"Propylene Glycol based. Glycol based antifreeze is safe on your lawn, septic tank, and storm sewers. As it is a mineral oil it also will lubricate the seals as opposed to dry them out. But the most amusing fact about it is that there is nothing that suggests it is harmful to ingest. I wanted to back this fact up so I checked the MSDS and the only reference to health effects is it may cause diarrhea if ingested in large quantities. Many studies on rodents have shown no long term effect on them as well."


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Those are on my 95. The trouble I find with those Bruce is that the oring falls off of them real easy at the most inopportune time and into the most inaccessible place.
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For those that install anti freeze in the blocks, where does that product go when the boat is launched next year.
Anti Freeze is pretty toxic stuff to put in our waterways.
It think a system drain is safe and not toxic.
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They screw into the block and hold. I used to winterize my neighbor's 377 Mercruiser. These plugs, which were everywhere, were the one thing that impressed me with it the most.
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Those don’t look like pipe threads
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

FYI the mcmaster version comes all the way out so you can probe. Even if they flow well, it doesn’t take much to block the opening. Even the block drains with fully removed plugs seem to stop up pretty regularly .

Yes, probing with a wire is always recommended.

Here's the removable stem drain cock so you can probe.



I wouldn't bother with the non removable stem type since you will end up having to removed them anyway to get a wire through.

The McMaster removable type are available up to a 3/8" NPT so bushings are needed on some manifolds.


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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

As greg said, the set I used came from hardware store (or auto parts store). If you like to spend, the catalogue cut is from SKIDIM.

http://www.skidim.com/searchprods.asp Search "drains"

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I was losing my mind when I seen the three small plugs in the picture above. I was trying to think of where the third plug in the block went. Phew..... took my a couple minutes to realize it’s the water pump drain plug hahaha
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FYI the mcmaster version comes all the way out so you can probe. Even if they flow well, it doesn’t take much to block the opening. Even the block drains with fully removed plugs seem to stop up pretty regularly (often half way through the drain so it is far from obvious).
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I hear ya tim, had the same concerns. Especially since you cant probe them (the inlets on the stem are on the sides, not the end of the stem) The tique had heftier drains in the block that you could probe or even pull the stem all the way out. I went for these for now, either to upgrade later or just remove once a year to clean out behind. So far they flow nicely when opened, so, so far so good.
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Those small quick drains on the large exh manifold plugs make me nervous.. seems I’m always getting large scale out of cast iron manifolds. Probe carefully every time. Mcmaster sells nicer all-brass versions of the quick drains... solid handles that are easier on (cold) fingers and they don’t rust.
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As greg said, the set I used came from hardware store (or auto parts store). If you like to spend, the catalogue cut is from SKIDIM.

http://www.skidim.com/searchprods.asp Search "drains"

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Most any auto parts store. No need for marine rated............
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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

If it's going to go below freezing, why not just drain the block? It takes 5 minutes.


Especially here in NC, where we dont have long, hard freeze, 6 month layups and a chance to use our boats all year when conditions cooperate. I probably have it comfortably under 5 minutes with these additions, tho I still have one hose to take off, on the bottom end of the tranny cooler.



I suppose I could have gone to skidim and paid $135 for these, but I think I accomplished the same thing for $15-$20.



(HW, I did that so I could save money to buy some new equipment)


Good stuff is that on nautique parts?
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

If it's going to go below freezing, why not just drain the block? It takes 5 minutes.


Especially here in NC, where we dont have long, hard freeze, 6 month layups and a chance to use our boats all year when conditions cooperate. I probably have it comfortably under 5 minutes with these additions, tho I still have one hose to take off, on the bottom end of the tranny cooler.



I suppose I could have gone to skidim and paid $135 for these, but I think I accomplished the same thing for $15-$20.



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If it's going to go below freezing, why not just drain the block? It takes 5 minutes.
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I have the 200 watt kats magnetic heater. It works great. I tested it on a junk short block (on the block not oil pan) in my driveway (no motor box) and it kept all areas of the block in the mid 30s while the ambient temp was in the low teens. It did burn the paint locally.

I have 2 now so I’m going to try to use a cloth or something in between to actually lower the local temp and use one on each side next time.
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So........... since we seem to talk a lot about USCG/marine approved starters, alternators, carburetors, fuel line etc and how they help to minimize the chance of an explosion, why do people do things like put light bulbs, heaters etc that aren't USCG/marine approved in the enclosed bilge area?   

Must be a money saving thing since the approved stuff is expensive or maybe "they don't know what they're talking about" or maybe " slim chance of that happening to me"

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If I am done for the season it is drain and the RV antifreeze. If not done and skiing throughout the cold months it is two drop lights lying in the bilge.
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