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    Posted: May-24-2020 at 11:40pm
I'm brandnew to this forum and I'm looking for some help I have a 1983 ski nautiuqe 2001. I'm looking for replacement toggle switches and no matter how hard I search I can't seem to find the oem style switches. They are Carling switches and even on their website they don't have what I need.
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Do you have any pictures of the switch you need or part number off of it? How many poles are on the back?
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Dees dem?

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I don't know Larry. But I do know this without the original poster posting a picture of what they need it leaves out us seasoned boat parts horders who often don't even know what we end up with. Got these from the Godfather at the river run a number of years ago. No one wanted them they were going to get thrown out. I have 1 single pole and several 3 pole? on/off/on ones.

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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

and several 3 pole? ]

2 pole double throw.


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That photo i found was good enough to remind me of what they looked like. Sort of translucent handles, pinkish/reddish, look like handles that light up, but pretty sure they dont. Npt sure original matters in this case. I replaced the 3 or 4 toggles on my tique a few times. Dont seem to like water environments. One batch looked like the ones you are showing Gary, another time they had more the paddle style, another time, just the standard "tear drop" type metal handle. If you do them all probably doesnt matter, unless you are hard core "keep it original" which I do understand as well. They look something like this except this one doesnt look tinted


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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

and several 3 pole? ]

2 pole double throw.


I only know tip and ring- on hook off hook and ......
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

and several 3 pole? ]

2 pole double throw.


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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

That photo i found was good enough to remind me of what they looked like. Sort of translucent handles, pinkish/reddish, look like handles that light up, but pretty sure they dont.


Actually, they do......light up. At least originally they did.
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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Dees dem?



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They are Carling switches. The one I need is a 4 pole switch for the bilge pump

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Originally posted by Tydamon Tydamon wrote:

. The one I need is a 4 pole switch for the bilge pump

Tyler,

A 4 poll toggle. is on the unusual side. Why do you need 4 polls?


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I'm not sure all I know is that's what it had oem and that's what I'm looking for
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If I could figure out how to post pictures on this site I would post them
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Originally posted by Tydamon Tydamon wrote:

I'm not sure all I know is that's what it had oem and that's what I'm looking for

Tyler,
A four pole double throw switch will have 12 terminals on it.



How many terminals does your original switch have? 6?


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Originally posted by Tydamon Tydamon wrote:

If I could figure out how to post pictures on this site I would post them


How about sending a picture of the back of your switch to this email

keno439@gmail.com

Then I could post it here for you and then we will all collectively come up with the switch you need with the right terminology.

Does this switch have a middle off position and it can be flipped in either direction?

Or is it 2 positions with no mid position?

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Tyler,
Before you go getting a switch, what's up with yours's? Have you done some testing to determine it's bad?


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I am guessing this is what he is referring to, Pete, but I could be wrong.

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Larry,
Thanks and you may be correct. We'll see if we get the picture. I think Tyler was confused after our retired phone man posted his take on poles.


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Switch is broke off. Picture of what the fuse is are coming
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Tyler,
If you are sending Ken the picture, great as he can post it.

Regarding posting pictures, this is from a previous thread:

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If you are using a mobile device, it's very difficult on CCfan. The best is from a home computer or laptop. Go to "post reply" or click on the "full reply editor" (diagonal arrow above). Then click on the tree with the up arrow icon. This will bring up a browse box allowing you to select the desired off your computer. Give it a try and report back.


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If this helps...
Pretty sure the original switch has 3-positions:

1. Bilge pump off
2. Bilge pump on
3. Bilge pump on "automatic" (via the float).
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Here are Tyler's pictures.

Should be posting info here about switch positions etc either ON OFF ON or ON OFF



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Tyler,
From the way the switch is wired (only 2 wires), all that's needed is a single poll single throw (SPST). That would simply turn the pump on and off. The picture Gary posted of the toggle with two terminals is the one. Is there any evidence that it ever had 3 wires on the switch?


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Guess that goes back to what has been said in the past, about how CC would use what ever is handy. Why else that switch for just on and off? Tho another possibility is that a PO got in there and fiddled with the wiring. Per Ken's question, what are the throws on that switch, maybe at one time (I have no idea if this was even a thing in the 80's ) maybe it had three positions (and more wires) with off - on - auto?

Sometimes I (not being overly smart about such things) look at the back of toggle switches with an odd, no not odd, a strange number of poles, and wonder, what does that switch do, what is going on inside of it?
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I definitely need to get on the computer so I can post pictures and keep everyone updated I know this can get pretty confusing and I'm not 100% clear on the whole issue I guess. The switch that I sent Ken to post for me is for something else but they are the same switches. The build pump switch that I need has a toggle completely broken off and had four wires hooked up. So I'm no expert by any means but I would guess like previously stated it has an on off and automatic so I need to switch with four posts on it. I know we have old boats but I wish there's a website that sold things for these old boats
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Originally posted by Tydamon Tydamon wrote:

so I need to switch with four posts on it. I know we have old boats but I wish there's a website that sold things for these old boats

Tyler,
Does the bilge pump switch have 3 wires connected to it? Does it have a center off position? (with the toggle handle broken off, this may be hard to determine) Is there a float switch in the bilge? As mentioned, a on-off-on switch would be manually on one way, off center and then automatic the other position via the float switch.


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The bilge pump switch actually has four wires going into it. I cannot tell what positions to switch has because the toggle is broke clean off. By building does have a float in it and does work
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Here's the typical wiring for a on-off-automatic pump. Where's the 4th wire go?



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