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ski_scott 
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 Topic: transmission WiningPosted: December-07-2006 at 6:14am |
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I have a 90 model Ski Nautique. when you put the boat into gear and moving the transmission starts wining loud, any help would be great
Scott Melbourne Australia |
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eric lavine
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Posted: December-07-2006 at 7:23am |
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what transmission do you have, and does the noise start when your wife is on the boat?
(american humor) we need to know the model trans though,is it a buzzing noise or a whine, if you can be more specific. thanks welcome to the site |
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Posted: December-07-2006 at 8:38am |
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Eric is right on the money here. If there is a distinct buzzing sound at idle, that is a documented problem on the early 1.23:1 trannies, and PCM has a fix for it- mine has it installed.
The 1.23 does whine at all speeds though- it sounds very different than a 1:1 Nautique. |
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Posted: December-07-2006 at 3:15pm |
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Thanks
it's a whining sound, i will get the model number over the weekend. thanks |
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Posted: December-07-2006 at 5:17pm |
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I put an Acme 542 prop on this year, and when the tranny is cold, it 'sings' while in gear. After the tranny is warm, it goes away.
I'm thinking I'm hitting the natural vibration frequency to cause it to 'sing'. Did you recently change props? |
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Posted: December-09-2006 at 10:35am |
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Eric; would you like some cheese with that whine????????????????? boat dr
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eric lavine
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Posted: December-10-2006 at 3:38pm |
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Lets get serious, this guy is from outta town and needs some proffesional advice, Boat doc I hear formunda cheese is the state cheese down in La. lol eric
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Posted: December-11-2006 at 9:16am |
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Eric; what the hell is "formunda cheese" All we have down here is yeller and white cheese.Our state ceese is "hogshead" and it is made from, well a hogs head. We don';t waste nuttin............ boat dr
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eric lavine
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Posted: December-11-2006 at 4:50pm |
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Doc, i wasnt being serious on that post... maybe one of these other guys can tell you what fromunda cheese is, after you figure it out you'll understand the post
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Posted: December-11-2006 at 4:53pm |
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Fromunda can be yellow or white, and maybe a hint of green (mold). You might have even had it at one point and not known it, hopefully not though.
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Posted: December-11-2006 at 6:36pm |
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I'm surprised that "fromunda cheese" pa$$es our anti-foul language software
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eric lavine
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Posted: December-12-2006 at 7:37am |
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If your seeing some green you better call up the doc
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Posted: December-13-2006 at 6:48am |
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thanks Eric for your help.
Boat DR in Australia and the rest of the english speaking world some words are spelt not the same as in the US EG(wine is the Drink and Whine is a nosie) |
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Posted: December-19-2006 at 12:01pm |
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Boat Dr is going to be pissed when he finds out what "fromunda cheese" is .
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Posted: January-09-2007 at 7:24pm |
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Hi Eric,
The model number is a PCM-40a 1.23/1. We have pull the box apart and look like the harding is coming off the two gears at the back of the trans. (the step down gears at the back of the trans)Do you know where I could get ner ones from and how they would be???? I would have to get then shipped out to Australia. Thanks Scott |
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Posted: January-09-2007 at 7:46pm |
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if you like sticker shock I'll tell you where to get new, or I know a guy who has some very good used. welcome to the world of PCM's, those 2 gears are probably more than a new trans.
be careful setting these gears up, if you notice there are shims for rolling torque (critical). Make sure you check at the base of the drum for hairline cracks (look close they are easy to miss, tap it lightly with a hammer and if its cracked you'll hear it, call me tomorow 330-273-8291 and I'll give you the guys name who has those gears, I think his name is Eric too |
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Posted: January-09-2007 at 7:50pm |
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Thanks Will give you a call
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Posted: January-11-2007 at 7:26pm |
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Hi Eric,
What type of OIL sould I use in that transmission? it's a pcm 40-a 1.23/1 in a 90 S/N |
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Posted: January-11-2007 at 7:38pm |
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Whats in it now? The very early 1.23's (like mine) came with straight 20w oil. Newer tranny's came with ATF, but I wouldnt switch if its not giving you a problem.
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Posted: January-11-2007 at 7:51pm |
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it's a early 1.23 with the 20w oil.
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Posted: January-11-2007 at 7:57pm |
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would any one have a Transmission Manual for the early 1.23 trans
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Posted: January-13-2007 at 9:18am |
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yes eric
switch to dexron mercon making sure to clean the 20 wt completely out |
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Posted: January-13-2007 at 9:55am |
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Eric, any reason to switch if the 20w is working well? I know thats what PCM originally recommended.
Ive got nearly 1200 hrs on my original 1.23, and its had 20w all its life as far as I can tell. Should I also consider switching when I pull the trans this spring? |
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Posted: January-13-2007 at 11:20am |
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From what I've read and seen in the past as with BW's you could use 20 or 30w if you didnt go over 3000 rpms (diesel applications)
they recommend nowadays dexron mercon and if trans is serviced to switch to the same. I know the transmissions Ive seen in the past with 20w in them the gear faces are starting to flake the facing as it did like ski scotts. a straight 20w oil has no detergents in them in which dexron does and it also has anti foaming agents with it. the viscosity of dexron is approximately like a 10w. I would changeover when you pull the trans as i do with the transmissions i rebuild. The exact reason PCM....zf hurth decided to go to dexron I dont know, but i would guess someone on this site has seen the news flash on thier reasoning |
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