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    Posted: July-06-2007 at 12:06pm
Guys,
I need to attach my new Alloy Marine brackets this weekend on the back of the 76, and was hoping to use the boat this weekend at the same time.. How long do I really have to wait to use the boat after applying the 5200 product in the bolt holes etc? The tube states something like a 5 day cure time???? I was hopeing to apply one day and boat the next..

What's your experience working with this stuff??

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have you all ready used the 5200 Dave? if not your better off using boat life sealent as it will allow you to remove the platform if you wanted. The 5200 is pretty much periment, me friend just rebuilt his motor on his cuddy and used 5200 a while ago on the flanges to the thru hull exhaust tips and when he removed the tips to rebuild the motor part of the gel-kote came off with the tips.

as far as your question goes what does it say about work life? that is the time it takes to set up and is non-plyable anymore, and doesn't it say that it can be applied underwater? I would say that you would be ok maybe give it two days. It doesn't have to be fully cured, think of it this way concrete isn't fully cured for years, you can walk on it in a couple of days but as the days go by it gets harder and harder.
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Chris,
I'm not sure about the life question yoo're asking about.. Maybe there is another sealant that is easier to deal with and will allow me to use and go, like cauking??

Any suggestions??

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Moj,

I think Chris is talking about Boatlife Caulk. I have used it for underwater application around my rudder port, skegs, and strut. (I have also used it on the wooden spray rail that my 69 has) It's now been three summers, and it looks like I applied it yesterday.

And, it is removable without tearing up the surface.

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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

Maybe there is another sealant that is easier to deal with and will allow me to use and go, like cauking??


Yes, Boat Life Calk

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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

Chris,
I'm not sure about the life question yoo're asking about.. Maybe there is another sealant that is easier to deal with and will allow me to use and go, like cauking??

Any suggestions??

Moj'



Mojo,

on almost all epoxy's, sealants, super glues or bonding type glues, caulks and so forth they will specify a "work life" and a cure time, The "work life" is the amount of time that you have to apply, spread or work the product before it takes a set, then there is the cure time and that is the time that it takes to fully harden or set.

HW and the others showed what I was tlking about as an alternate to the 5200.

Also your going to be my beer sponsor for the week-end right? Bud Select or Budwieser would be my 1st and 2nd choices. I have one gas sponsor so far so if anyone else want to help out e-mail me.
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Ok, gotcha... Can I use this Boat Life Cauk and immediately hit the water?? or is there a cure time that will make me have to drink more beer on the dock??

Chris,
No problem dude.. I've got an old case of that crap laying around somewhere !!!!

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Moj,
If you can't come up with the Boat Life caulk, 5200 also comes in a fast cure application (green label), which can have you boating in hours.
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well you can apply it underwater so I would say yes you could but you might wash some of it away when taking off so let it set up over night or at leasthalf the day before you dunk it to play it safe.

You'll need to get a fresh case of Select that way I can have a couple of fresh pops before switching to a stail pop,

after six they all taste the same anyway, well not really I can still taste what brand they are regardless.
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OK, overnight is about all I have the patience for haha... I'll run over to Boaters world and see what they have.. I only have a tube of the regular 5200..

Chris, How about a fresh case of Old Milwaukee or PBR???? doh'

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thank's but no thanks I'm a professional drinker and those brands are not on the approve PBDA list sorry thought you drank bud lite anyway?

PBDA = Professional Beer Drinkers Association.

unless are buddy Sowash is around then it's fu fu's and red snappers as he rarely drinks beer but is a hell of a bartender/mixolygist
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Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

thank's but no thanks I'm a professional drinker and those brands are not on the approve PBDA list sorry thought you drank bud lite anyway?

PBDA = Professional Beer Drinkers Association.



Yeah, I drink bud or miller lites.. If I really want to forget the evening, then it's Capitan and cokes hahaha...

So, are ya coming now ya big wally?? Hope so, I'll have the beers ready !!

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Id just use the 5200 and drop it in the drink. The removable feature is built in to those brackets with the pin. I dig 3M 5200. Do you ever plan on removing the brackets from the stern?
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Originally posted by Darrel Darrel wrote:

Id just use the 5200 and drop it in the drink. The removable feature is built in to those brackets with the pin.


FALSE,   some of the brackets are designed that way, mine and many others can only be removed if unbolted from the transom
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If you are going to the store, there is also a 3m 4100 or 4200 that will seal excellently, cure quicker, and come off if need be.
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Sealed everything on the 87 SN with 4200. It is just as waterproof as the 5200 but you can remove things at some point down the road if need be.
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Go with the 4200. Don't forget that the Boat Life has a long cure time too. (2-3 days)
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