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Oh yeah I didnt use any pour in foam on the mustang, just some water drainage channels
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Joe, Sounds like you built up the Mustang for the Navy so they could use it as a gun boat! Wow!


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Well as stated before I have done a lot of floor jobs that I lived to see fall apart and since the mustang was my only cc at the time it got a lot of attention. If I only had a workshop then things life would have been a lot easier. Either way the poor thing only got run one week after I did that work along with the last round of engine upgrades (when the video in my sig was made) after that week I decided it was a little loud and fast for daily skiing use, so I bought the 83 with a blown motor in it pulled the motor out of the mustang put it in the 83 and have been playing with the 83 since. The mustang sits covered waiting for gelcoat, interior, and its continually upgraded 302 back, sad really.
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I have my hull just about cleaned out. I got the cables and wiring out today. I'm still not sure of my plan though. The main stringers don't run parallel with the floor/secondary stringers. This makes it hard to level the boat...not that anything is level or true in there?!!?

My current thinking is to level the mains as they are most important. I left an edge of the old floor since it wasn't separated, so I'll level the floor off of that edge.
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Guys, I'm decided on going back with fir. This keeps me in my comfort zone with the woodworking, and I won't be soon leaving it with a foot of water in the bilge.

Pete, this may end up as an example of your advice in action...better make any changes you want to now?!!?

Joe, please don't hate me. I'd rather use something that won't rot, but I think that may be out of my league for now.
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No hate here, each man follows his own path to boating nirvana.
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Originally posted by JoeinNY JoeinNY wrote:

No hate here, each man follows his own path to boating nirvana.

Hate was too strong...I meant it as a backwards thank you for all of your input. Yes, I'm going back with wood after all of your advice, but I will be using some of your pointers as well! And since your brought it up, Nirvana is where we're getting married.

Back to business, what do you guys use for aggressive glass removal? My meathod works but is slow.
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A good grinder a shop vac tyvek suit respirator and face shield.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

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The thing about that pic that gets my attention is that the floor and strigers seem to be on the same plane. This is not the case with my boat.

Yep, the BFN and its deep-V hull allow the motor to sit down lower. Most CC's have main stringers at floor height.

The engine not only sits lower, but its 'bed' and the floor's 'bed' are not parallel. The stringers 'point' lower than the floor if that makes sense.
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A good grinder a shop vac tyvek suit respirator and face shield.

I have all but the suit. Any particular type of blade/disk?
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Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

The thing about that pic that gets my attention is that the floor and strigers seem to be on the same plane. This is not the case with my boat.

Yep, the BFN and its deep-V hull allow the motor to sit down lower. Most CC's have main stringers at floor height.

The engine not only sits lower, but its 'bed' and the floor's 'bed' are not parallel. The stringers 'point' lower than the floor if that makes sense.

I cant picture what youre saying Greg. Is this drawing of the cross section not correct?

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It's close Tim. The pic implies that the stringers and floor are parallel. Imagine the mains where they are in the pic and then jack the nose of the floor up a few degrees. In other words, if I level the mains the floor is angled up to the front. Also, the mains are clear in your diagram; the next to the outside is ply and the one after isn't there in my boat...just cross supports.
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Greg, hows the pic look now?
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Did you change the one above or forget to include the new one? I don't see any diff in the one above.
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Also, the floor is higher than the turn/corner in the hull. This edge/corner is called the chine?
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Greg, refresh the page- I changed the pic.
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Now you have it. How cool would it have been to see the pic the way you have it now...before I started?!!?   LOL
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Greg, now Im curious- which one of the 2 side cross sections in the pic is right?
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The first side view is the closest. The bottom of the main stringers are convex to fit the hull. The 1st side view is a good representation of the floor angle to the mains except that the mains stop just in front of the bulkhead that is in front of the pylon. I'll get a pic up a little later.
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for some reason i remember 87bfns oil pan was real close to the hull, ive been reading this greg and tr and dont understand what greg is trying to say, your right on with the diagram TR,everything was osometric side to side, all the floor heights were also the same
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the mains do stop and tie in to another cross brace right near the plyon, let me see if i can find some pics
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everything was osometric side to side, all the floor heights were also the same

Huh? What's osometric? I don't get 'all the floor heights' either. Isn't there just 1 floor height? The oil pan is close...1/2"-3/4" between the drain kit fitting and the bilge. The trans is also close, 1/2" maybe.
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That looks like a targeting system...
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i cant get the pictures on or to delete, yes the floor hieght is the same, and yes the trans is close also, whats the trick lately for getting pics up?
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Email them to me, I'll put 'em up.
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Eric, don't worry about e-mailing the pics.
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Thanks man...good looking work! I need to study those and then ask about 30 questions...LOL
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