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    Posted: September-17-2019 at 6:06pm
Well since I have torn the motor down due to milky oil I'm going to do a complete rebuild. I would like to know if anyone has tried bumping Performance by changing cam size. I see alot of peaple going to the GT 40 heads also. If anyone has suggestions on a good rebuild and what parts to use it would be great. I do have experience in engines but not marine engines.
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Well that seems like it was premature as it seems the most likely cause of the oil was the exhaust hoses backing up..
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Originally posted by Evilsizer Evilsizer wrote:

I would like to know if anyone has tried bumping Performance by changing cam size. I see alot of peaple going to the GT 40 heads also. I.


You forgot the P after GT40

And.................no no one has ever changed their cam looking for more perfromance.

You'll be the first, like Neil Armstrong walking on the moon if you do it   

You should search the site for whatever questions you have, they've pretty much all been asked and answered

The easiest way is to use Google and type in correctcraftfan followed by whatever you're searching for like cam or GT40P or 351 rebuild for example.

After reading a bunch of that stuff then ask whatever questions you might have.

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The Factory Camshaft used in the true Marine engines is no slouch.
They are designed like a nice RV Cam to give you more power from idle to 4400 RPM.
I like the factory cam, I used one in a friends 68 Mustang because it had the automatic tranny. He was very happy. It had a snappy idle and pulled well for a 302 in a otherwise stock Mustang. OK it did have an Edelbrock Manifold and 625 CFM carb but for him it worked great zero to just under 5,000 RPM.
In a boat changing to more cam will probably have tradeoffs and you might not like them.
You must have a strong idle to turn a prop at idle. You need great torque to pull the boat up on plane. Now you need a cam that can give you decent top end power.
You need a mix of all three.   Not saying you can't make your engine stronger but the factory cams were pretty good.   
The P Heads are a bolt on improvement.

PS: You mentioned you are tearing it down. If you have not pulled the heads off yet drain the block using the drain plugs on the sides of the block. You may need to take the plugs out and poke around in the hole with a nail to clean out rust and get it to drain.
Now as you pull the heads you won't have water spilling into the cylinders and you can better see any existing damage. Take a lot of pictures of the heads, head gaskets and block.   Get both sides of the head gaskets.   We may be able to help you spot problems.
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Ok I see that the block is already .030 over. The cylinder heads are a 1987 E7TE PH. Does anyone know about these heads
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Originally posted by Evilsizer Evilsizer wrote:

if anyone has tried bumping Performance by changing cam size. .

Don't forget your engine is a RR. Cam selection is limited.


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If you see the block is .030 you know it has had one rebuild. These engines in a Boat are known to run 2,000 + hours if maintained.   If the cylinder walls look great you might think about putting new gaskets and heads on and closing it up.
Most get rebuilt because someone made a mistake not because they wear out.
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Here's an example of what you'll find with a Google search using    correctcraftfan E7TE in the link below

Lots of info

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If you Google   E7TE PH   all by itself you 'll find some other info

Are you sure it says PH and not PA ?

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As noted above, the engine should be reverse-rotation, which limits cam choices.
Also, as noted, the original cam responds very, very well to better breathing.
I went with Edelbrock Performer heads and intake on otherwise 'stock' PCM 351.
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A new prop can get you a lot more pull as well, if that's what you are looking for.
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Originally posted by Evilsizer Evilsizer wrote:

Well since I have torn the motor down due to milky oil I'm going to do a complete rebuild. I would like to know if anyone has tried bumping Performance by changing cam size. I see alot of peaple going to the GT 40 heads also. If anyone has suggestions on a good rebuild and what parts to use it would be great. I do have experience in engines but not marine engines.


I recently finished a complete rebuild of a 302 and sunk a lot of money into it, but my plan is to get another 40 years out of this boat. If you want better performance and plan to hold onto the boat, I say upgrade the cam, intake and heads. I went with the GT40P heads.
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