learning to barefoot
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Printed Date: April-25-2024 at 9:02am
Topic: learning to barefoot
Posted By: k.o.
Subject: learning to barefoot
Date Posted: June-10-2008 at 6:34pm
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allright guys i'm thinking of try barefoot. we tried it once before on a boom didn't succeed. but want to try again we traded the boom for wakeboard lesson so i have to try it on long line. how's the best way to do it don't have a exttended pylon nor a suit. I'm thinking of starting on a kneeboard. what speed is the boat supouse to be going? rope lenght?
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Posted By: TRIP
Date Posted: June-10-2008 at 11:27pm
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Well, what I always did is: longest line I had, as fast as the boat could go, wearing boardshorts and vest, start sitting on a wakeboard between the bindings and go to Vmax, then stand up.
Worked for me, but I'm sure there are better ways  ------------- http://www.flyzone-cr.com" rel="nofollow - FlyZone Costa Rica Wakeboarding http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=8406&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1997 Super Sport |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 1:02am
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Worked for Trip, could work for you. Don't think I would teach someone with those exact instructions however. If you do not have a suit be sure and buckle your vest very tight, a hard fall can easily bring a loose vest up your torso and trap your arms upright while your head is below the water.
Do some searches, learning to foot has been discussed many times, you may even find some video. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 1:21am
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i'm gonna try it that way if i get a chance i've been watching many videos of crashes first timers and pro's
thnx for the help let you guys know how it works out i i don't break a limb haha ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 1:52pm
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Nobody really gave you a speed suggestion. A rule of thumb is your weight divided by 10 plus 20, so if you weigh 180, speed is about 38. Seems like a decent rule of thumb if you are in that weight range. If you go the wakeboard route (Ive never done that, but I've done kneeboard, same difference, except wakeboard might be easier.) Just get up to cruising speed, 18-20 mph. Get stable, solid and comfortable at that speed on the board with your feet up (straight out in front of you). Then GENTLY BEND YOUR KNEES and place your feet on the water until they are scooting along without much weight on them. Now have your driver accelerate to your footin speed. Slowly place more and more weight on your feet as he speeds up. Spread you legs to drop the board when you feel that your feet are supporting you. If and when you are up, keep your knees bent, almost full 90 degrees in what they call the sitting in the chair position.
Keep us posted. Videos and pictures are a plus (for all of us) at this stage. Good luck. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: beachdude24
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 2:07pm
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i weigh about 250 damn that's 45 mph haha need a dieet and fast haha yeah i'll take some photos for you guys to laugh at haha. a friend told me once that you can wear normal skate shoes you first times to get used to footin is this true or wil the shoe only give you more trouble? ------------- Living the Salt Life...Life is better in Aruba |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 2:12pm
crap i posted with my brothers username auto login with his pc ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
beachdude24 wrote:Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 2:44pm
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Yeah sure, use the shoes, I sarted out with plain old sneakers. It does make it easier. But keep in mind, once you get the hang of it, bare feet are actually less squirrily than shoes, which tend to slide around a little. You are a pretty big guy, but I dont think you will have to go quite as high as 45, especially with shoes. Try around 42. If you do get up but feel like you are struggling or getting a ton of spray in your face, speed it up a bit.
If you have trouble with the whole wakeboard approach, you can try dropping a ski. (thats how I taught myself in 1972, long before booms, kneeboards, and barefoot suits were around). I took off the rear toe and the heel piece, rammed my sneaker into the toe piece. Got cruising about 20 and with my rear foot still on the ski, scooched my shoe out of the toe piece. Picked up speed, planted rear foot, and then just flicked away the ski. (Yes, its just that simple, well it did take about 50 tries, but yest, just that simple.) ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 6:03pm
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thnx i'm gonna try it sitting on a wake board with shoes on i fail i'll try the drop a ski hope to get it in the first few tries haha ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 9:42pm
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If you are able to maneuver the kneeboard enough to get outside of the wake, that will surely help. the water is much harder and smoother right on the outside of the crest. You have to do this right off the bat with the boat still going fairly slow, otherwise, you will do an evil kneivel over the wake if you wait too long. I'll try to find a good pic of where to ride. ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 9:45pm
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i know what you mean you're saying out of the wake a few feet later then the wake correct? i think i saw a vid of a guy trying it for first time on a kneeboard to ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 10:00pm
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Correct. You want to be out of the wake by the time you get up to the roller that the boat makes when it is taking off... Or close to it anyway. Then, slowly turn yourself back in a little until you are just outside of the where the wake curls. ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 10:06pm
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As soon as the boat starts moving, you want to start leaning. The driver can help a little too by slightly turning into the side that you are going to foot off of. Once you are outside the wake, the driver can straighten up. ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 10:07pm
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If you don't have a suit. WEAR A CUP!!! ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 10:47pm
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all right i'll wear a cup i'll post pics i my girlfriend remember to take some ahha ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 10:52pm
Hopefully not of your cup... ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 10:54pm
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hahahah nooo lol ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 10:57pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zPdIgVGty8 - This should help ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 11:30pm
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thnx man those kind of videos make me want to go try that right now lol ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-11-2008 at 11:32pm
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on thing i noticed that he's ussing either a tower or extended pylon. he said "let the boat pull you up don't stnad up" does a low pylon do the same?? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 12:36am
You'll feel the boat pulling you up still. You want to put your heels in pretty slow to get the feel. While you are doing this, the driver should be steadily increasing speed. Next thing you know, your are footing  ... Unless you start seeing sky then water then sky then water then sky and you notice that your eye sockets are filled with water. Then you did something wrong. Good luck to you! It will definitely take a couple tries. Let us know.------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 10:27am
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doesnt anyone try those big clown shoes anymore? Ive never heard them mentioned, Im pretty agile and never could get up in the deep even with the shoes. i got injected with water more than anything. even tried the kneeboard and could not ever do it off the kneeboard. so Pete i stuck to tubing ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 11:10am
Yep. they still use them. The one's that are out now are over 100 bucks. Who would want to waste money to learn on these things when you will probably end up in traction for the rest of your life from your first attempt at barefooting ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 12:33pm
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Doing deeps with the shoes I find is actually more difficult that barefoot. I feel they are better for training or learning new stuff than actually learning to barefoot. ------------- |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 1:07pm
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you guys are talking to the barefooting shoes right? not the skate shoes? i never understood the concet of deep water and i think shallow what do you mean by that? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 1:15pm
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You're right on HW. Also, you can learn some bad habits on them if you don't get it down on bare feet first. ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: Mark Mel
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 1:57pm
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I am trying to learn long line (I don't have a boom) I did manage to get up for 30 seconds once. I can slide around the whole lake on my butt but my issue is the transition to standing up.
I have not tried this year yet. I don't want to tear my triceps again like last year. Remember you can't stop your body falling at 40 mph by sticking your arm out. The water will want to force your arm over your head and around your back in an unnatural way. lol Make sure to video, the crashes are spectacular. Maybe I'll get some help if I come up to the NE reunion. But by then, I might have it nailed - maybe. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=972&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - 1978 Nautique FBook - www.facebook.com/charliedontsurfct |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 4:53pm
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when crasin what is the best way to uhm stop a crash or get less injury i'll post some pics and video if my gf remember to take some if she ain't laughing to much. I'm 17 so i can affort a few crashes haha. also what line do i have to use non strech or a strech? i have both wich one to use?? or it doesn't manner? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 5:10pm
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Tuck your head to your chest. That's about all you have time for. Don't put your hands out. I've done that once and ended up punching myself in the face. Not quite as bad as MM, but it still hurt. ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-12-2008 at 7:30pm
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non stretch line. I learned deep water starts using a stretchy line. Needless to say your first attempts don't always work out too well. Sometimes you get dragged down to the bottom of the lake with the handle rammed into your thighs. The 75 foot rope stretches out to about 100' feet, you cant hold on any longer because you're either 30 feet deep or plowing through the muck. The handle on the stretchy rope is torn from your hands with the force of a small jet plane, inevitably smashing into the tops of your feet leaving them bruised and swollen like someone clubbed you with a baseball bat.
Or so I am told anyway.
Moral of the story...non-stretchy rope. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: June-13-2008 at 10:08am
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75 moral of the story, sit on the boat and watch everyone else and pop a chilly ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-13-2008 at 12:44pm
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Larry, or you pop the jet plane handle and it jams into your waist, feet come off the rope because you don't want the handle to bash them. Now what? Your legs are over your head and still plowing through water 5' down. We call that the "taco". ------------- |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-13-2008 at 1:08pm
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Yes, I've taco'd a few times. You're down there under the water, completely trapped and helpless, seeing your pathetic life flash before your eyes and the guys in the boat are saying "Oh just speed up a bit, he'll surface as soon as we get going a little faster." But with your butt leading and your legs up over your head, aiming you down like airplane flaps, there is only one way to go. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-13-2008 at 1:34pm
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you guys are getting me hungry and scared about this taco thing haha i know my father isn't a great driver and he will be pulling me haah ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-13-2008 at 2:27pm
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Sorry Ken, we got a little off track there. You should have no problems like those with a wakeboard start. Just a few things to think about when you move on to deep water start, but we'll cross that bridge when you get to it. Good luck with you efforts. I think that wakeboard video clip ripster posted will be a great help to you. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: June-13-2008 at 2:36pm
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Don't let these Knuckleheads scare you!
To Larry's point, the no stretch line is particularly important when doing a deep water start, if you are doing a step-off (ski, wakeboard, kneeboard, whatever) you could really use just about any line, longer can be better however like Ripster pointed out start just adjacent to the wake and stay right in that area, doing that line length may not make too much of a difference. Personally I think a kneeboard is easier to start on then a wakeboard or surfboard, once stable have the boat throttle up to speed, probably WOT with your boat, as you begin to put pressure on your feet the wake/spray will actually push the board up slightly, or in essence, it will help get you up to that chair position. If not already obvious, try to do this on very calm water, makes it much easier to learn. Good Luck Dude!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-13-2008 at 3:07pm
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Similar to tacoing...
One day last summer, Keith brought along a swing barefoot trainer. Brad's buddy Erich gave it a try, never having barefooted before. Erich was quite reasonable in asking what happens if he stumbles or lets go. I told him no problem, his body would just fold up around that swing like a wet dollar bill. He appreciated my input, and ended up doing just fine on the swing. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-13-2008 at 3:29pm
http://growingbolder.com/media/Sports/Extreme/Banana-Battles-Back-137386.html - 93 and still going at it. ------------- |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-13-2008 at 3:40pm
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Great for the Bananaman. Drowned twice...sounds like he's done a couple tacos in his time, too.
Actually, sometimes at the end of the day I feel like he looked when he was getting helped out of the boat. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-14-2008 at 2:33am
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thanks guys yeah everything depends of how calm the water are or how much losers with pwc are there. yeah i think i'll do it on a roto-molded board. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-14-2008 at 2:38am
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man i liked that vid of banana george good insperation. i should get one of those DO IT sings to put in the boat haha ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: LakeBoy
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 2:52am
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I thought I would jump in here. I have been barefooting from the boom for a couple of seasons. Last year was a bust (literally) when I broke my collar bone on the half pipe skating which netted me 2 surgeries, one plate, six screws and a vicodin addiction, but I digress...
I am back into it this year and have progressed greatly tuning in to a site, who advertises on this site called "the footer's edge.com." I swerved onto this pro, Lane Dawg Bowers' instructional clips on U-Tube, and ended up forking out 40 buck for his video which is awesome. I am mastering the "glide" position on the boom, can one-foot on the boom, and this weekend I am going to make the jump to 5 feet of rope off the boom. 75' of rope and 40 MPH may have been the old school way to do it, but ask anyone who has busted an eardrum about that. The "Dawg" professes a methodology of "dry land" practice before doing anything on the water; using the short rope off the boom, before the long line, etc... I have practiced for 10 days getting to my feet from a short line "deep water start" on land with the roped tied off to a post. Sounds crazy, but I haven't fallen yet. And that is the point, to visualize, train and execute with no risk. At minimum you will need a boom, barefoot handle and a barefoot wetsuit. Additionally Barefoot International sells "foot skis" which greatly reduces risk of injury since you can drop speeds from 40 MPH to a much more sane 28-30 MPH. Those of you who know Lane Bowers know he is a consumate marketeer, always pitching his school and the gear he sells. However if you ever see him on the rope, you will become an instant "believer". The guy is freaking amazing. His web site is free and offers an amazing inspirational message pllus tons of free tips. Check this out: http://lanebowers.com/t/10794212/604618/215622061/1/ Good luck! |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 3:02am
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i was on that site a few times yeah i saw the foot skis and every other gear but really don't want to ivest money in gear if i'm never gonna use them. i still have the boom but i don't have the clamps so the boom is use less i didn't try footing yesterday since i was grounded :S so hopefully this weekend ocean is calm and slow day that i can try it if i like it i'll begiin purchasing a suit and a foot ski
thnx for the help guys ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 11:53am
I agree with pretty much everything you said, but take some exception to the above. Although all the "new" tools, accessories and aids do make learning easier, they are far from "required". And a 75' (well actually 100 is better if you got it)rope, again may be a little more of a challenge, but is still doable. Learning how to barefoot doesnt need to be a $700 investment. I learned on a crappy wooden ski with the bindings off, a $20 vinyl vest (that disintigrated after the first 20 or 30 tries, though nothing a few miles of duct tape couldnt fix) and a beat up pair of sneakers...total investment $0, experience...priceless. I guess us old school guys, me, Eddie, JBear, Quinner take some pride in the fact that we learned the old way, when men were men and all that crap. It can be done, long line, dropping a ski or off a kneeboard or wakeboard. And if you do succeed learning "the hard way" its just that much more satisfying and its certainly doable. Go for it Ken, don't be intimidated. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: LakeBoy
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 1:30pm
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Certainly everybody has the their way and their will to learn. I guess other factors come into play. For the very young (my kids are learning with me and they are 4, 6, and 11) they are using the "sling" suspended from the rope with the foot skis and are thrilled to death. They "did it" the first time they tried. They cannot wait for more. On the boom I can give and get instruction. For the old (or almost old, I am 45) injury is a concern. If I were 22, filled with P$#@ and vinegar, a long line deep water start would appeal to me.
The site I recommended never says all that gear is required. They are simply tools. The "Dawgs" methodology discusses deep water starts, dropping a ski, starting on a wake or kneeboard, off the boom, etc. I saw a guy run the slalom course on a fence board once. Why doesn't everybody do that and say to heck with the $1100 D3? Better equipment enhances the experience. Not required? Personal choice I suppose. I belong to a water ski club that has 15 families as members. I would say at least 6 of those guys are excellent barefooters of the blood and guts type you describe. I have yet to see any of them out foootin' except for one guy who takes a straight 40 MPH pass at sunset. Why? My feeling is they lost the passion for the sport since they stopped progressing. They don't know the fundamentals of the glide or the three point position. How do I know? I asked them about those things, and they did not recognize what I was asking, nor could they really instruct me themselves, because they learned "the hard way." I have the means to get the gear, so I get it. While it is not for everyone, it works for me. I feel safe, I am progressing in incremental stages approporiate for my skill level, and I have yet to take a serious fall. Most of all I am having a lot of fun! I cannot wait for the weekend to roll around or catch a weekday evening set. |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 1:37pm
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Roy,
I certainly wasn't being critical of your approach. I just didnt want Ken or other beginners thinking a huge investment was needed to give it a shot. I agree that if there are aids out there to ease or enhance the experience, go for it. I just got a boom (used) and a suit (used) so my son could learn this year. He's stoked. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: LakeBoy
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 1:47pm
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No problem 75, I definitely did not take it the wrong way or as being critical. Thanks for clarifying, though. I read the thread last night before I posted, and felt compelled to post my experience which was different.
It all comes down to strength and fundamental techniques with or without equipment. My perspective is one of safety (that was a huge concern of mine, I have a lot of friends severely injured in this sport) and one of longevity: I want a positive experience that will last me a lifetime. Barefooting is SOOO awesome for me right now. I see these guys doing stuff I want to do. I feel it is in reach for me too, for how I am built and wired. 28' off at 34 MPH has been unreachable for me and my slalom abilities so barefooting has set some new goals for me and I am stoked! |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 2:18pm
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i think if i get up and love it by december i'll buy some gear but for now i'll do the kneeboard start at 40mph.
i done the hard way once. it was the 2nd time out with the boat we didn't had anyw toys so i jumped in the water with line everybody tought i was crazy haha. i never came above water only poped my ears and swallow water full of weed and mud not a happy moment so i quited that and now i want to try again since my goal is to learn to do every sport doable behind a boat i'm tryng also to go on one ski so i can slalom later but with no luck i lose my balance once i drop a ski so i can't start by dropping a ski cuz i'll lose a balance thnx for all the help ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 2:21pm
Larry, I take exception to it too! You forgot about me! Another old guy here from back when it was more of a challenge. We haden't even heard about wake or knee boards ether because they weren't invented yet!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 3:03pm
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Larry,
I am totally with you Brother!! Yes all these available items could perhaps help but are certainly not absolutely necessary. Yes, like Larry and many others, including Pete, I learned way back in the 70's, wearing nothing more then cut-off jeans, a crappy old rope with a broom handle - handle, ski belt and a wooden ski as a step-off. We had a 16' Tri-Hull with a 70hp Chrysler and no instruction, web sites or clue for that matter. We managed to get it done and had a ball doing it. BTW, taught Alex to barefoot long line stepping-off at 10yrs old, Maddie will be next whenever she is ready. Basically use what you have, be smart and have fun, we always did!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 8:34pm
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Larry: I am laughing so hard at your posts that I got tears. Thanks for the memories. Was cool to learn the old way but it sure is easier now and that opens things up to more people.
That's why I had to get busy with the bacerds before it was to late. My Ohio buddies, Gary B and Dale taugh themselves behind the boat using a picture of Brett Wing, back in the early 80's. Was lots easier with a boom and Eddie! john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 9:27pm
Well guys I learned the old school as well, stepping off long line. One thing I don't like about K.O.'s statement is the lack of commitment, that boy's gonna get hurt. Barefooting ain't tiddlywinks it's a "hell yeah, that was awesome " adrenaline rush sport. I'm not saying you have to take hits to learn but if you're afraid to then stay in the boat. I firmly believe that although strength is hugh, barefooting is as much a mental challenge as it is physical. My biggest faceplants will come when I'm just out goofing off not thinking about what I'm doing, if I get serious about a run and plan and think about what I going to do and where my body position is supposed to be I have much more success and FUN. ------------- |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 9:38pm
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neeh i ainn't afraid i jump out of the boat just for the hell of it. the only things i'm taking slow is wakeboarding and kneeboarding yea i know the simplest cuz i've busted my knee already with wakeboarding and i can't even ride well i took a hard fall and my right knee hurts when i'm sitting for a period of time or sleeping when i get up i can barely walk. aand for footing i'm stoked to try this thing i really don't care about crashing unless i break i limb then i would go really easy with it
and i believe in the thing you learn from taking a beating. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-17-2008 at 9:46pm
i forgot to say i don't know if i can get up since i'm heavy 250lb and 6.3 in height so that is why i have doubt everybody i told i'm gonna do it told me lose some weight first. i hope this sunday we go out and i can try this make a film and pics for you guys. i also said by decemmber i'll be buying gears since we go to united states every december and i'll buy them to save money on shipping ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: jdkenyon
Date Posted: June-18-2008 at 1:29pm
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I don't think your size will be that much of a problem. If anything it will force you to use better technique. My dad learned to barefoot behind a boat that would only hit about 34-35mph with him back there and he was 230lbs at the time. He ate lots of water but it really enforced the proper way to do it. I learned behind that same boat and we both used the kneeboard technique. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1955 - 94 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-18-2008 at 2:11pm
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Posted By: Ben#155
Date Posted: June-24-2008 at 8:22pm
| Is it easier to do whit a pair of sneakers? Do you have the same control? I think it is safe |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: June-24-2008 at 9:57pm
I have a good friend who is 6 foot and about 260. He barefoots a few times a week, and made the nationals in the over 50 class last year. Now, in fairness, he has been footing for more than 30 years, and he runs full throttle behind a Sanger which will do about 50 mph. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-24-2008 at 10:02pm
i still didn't get a chance to go out . with fuel prices going up and buisness being slow had no chance  i hope for this weekend but not gonna promise anything since were not so sure were going out------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: June-25-2008 at 11:23am
Hey Ben. The sneakers are probably not a good idea. It sounds weird, but anything you put on your feet tends to be a little more slippery and harder to control. I would imagine that the first couple times you get up woun't be long enough to bother your feet so try it barefoot. Good luck to you. Steve ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: June-25-2008 at 12:46pm
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Hey
I want to be put in the old school crew. Learned in 1976 when my brother wouldn't pull me slalom. Jean shorts, life vest, Chuck Stearns wood ski, 75' line, no instruction. 5th try I went right down the lake. I remember it like it was yesterday. As to us old school dudes loosing the pasion, barefooting is why I'm on this site. I bought my 85BFN two years ago to enhance my barefooting and for the endurance racing that my sons, my buddies, and I do. Many of the guys who endurance race are just short of "mid life" like myself, and they are some of the most passionate barefooters I've ever met. In regards to the "new" gear, I'm all for it. If I had access to booms, BF trainer skis, and the all important barefoot suit when I was young, I would have used them (and i would have learned to go bacerds, which is still my dream). I have all that now and the biggest reason is to allow newbies the safest experience in learning to foot. I have a very bad form when I foot, I plow instead of glide. But I'm trying to change that. Lane's videos are great teaching tools and many are free. Take it from me, learn the gliding style and don't shy away from the trainer "skis". My wife and her girl friends can even ride those. Sorry so long, but I like the topic. Steve ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: June-26-2008 at 1:52am
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Well...not sure 1963 counts for "old school" but I quess its close enough.
LOL. And I'm here to prove..that with Eddie's help an old dog can learn new tricks. So can you..so don't give up. 
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-26-2008 at 2:52am
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John, looking at that water I'm surprised you guys even skied! ------------- |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: June-26-2008 at 4:43am
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Well you know HW we gotta do the best we can with what we got here.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: June-29-2008 at 7:20pm
finally had the chance to go out yesterday could not do it water was too choppy even with kneeboard and ski water was choppy i'm planned to go out during this week so i'll try again------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: July-02-2008 at 6:33pm
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I did not read all of this "advice"
But since you have a 2001 boat, use a 40' line with the wakeboard to put you in your sweet spot in the wake. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: LakeBoy
Date Posted: July-07-2008 at 4:50pm
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Thought I would jump in here to post on my killer footin' weekend. 2 weeks ago I got hammered trying to deep water start off the boom. I could not get stable in the butt glide and would bouce so hard it would pitch me off the rope. Got my feet smashed by the handle, eye socket smashed with water. I was about to say this is too much for me.
I came into the 4th of July weekend full of hope, 4 days of footin' and renewed enthusiasm to Never Say Die! I started to fixed the problem Thurs. evening. I tried an alternate method to get up on the short rope on the boom: the hydro slide. Got up on my third try. Took a ton of passes working the basics: knees together over the ankles, feet gliding, not toes cranked back, and most important: working the power band. Guys at my lake thought I had been footing all my life by the form! Friday I took the next step: Did the shortline off the boom. Boom was too high when I got hammered 2 weeks back. The rope had too much angle due to the height and once I started bouncing I could not stop. So I lowered the boom, feet around the rope, took off, arched my back, handle at the zipper, waited til I was out of the water, knees up and together, lightly set the feet in, felt the water (awesome feeling, it is like it is alive!) and pressed up slowly with a slight arch and I was UP! It was awesome. I took many passes like that! So Saturday AM it was time to "get off the porch and run with the big dogs": Long line, behind the boat. Why not?! Now this is a lot more hectic. Many degrees of freedom, lots going thru my head. Everything was the same getting to the butt glide. No problem. However, I had a real hard time getting outside the wake. Real hard. After an number of tries, I resolved to get up between the wakes. Set the feet in... Rough ride, but I did it! I went about 100 yards, then shut it down. I could not control the spray. The water was rough enough I struggled to get my feet in the right form to control the spray. Next time! Sunday I stayed on the short rope off the boom and tuned up my glide, three point position and butt glide. I started playing with slight side to side turns, working the angles in anticipation of some one foots. All of that and I took only 2 big head plants all weekend All of this from a 45 year old guy who barely tumbled up on the boom in May! That's my story and I am stickin with it. |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: July-07-2008 at 5:18pm
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Good weekend's work, Roy. You got a lot done in a short amount of time. Don't feel bad about taking a few more runs on the boom before going long line. As fast as you progressed, a little more time getting the feel of it is not at all unreasonable.
I did a little work myself this weekend. Brushing up on an old skill. Had this down many years ago, but havent done it in years, till last fall, I went to show it to the NE guys and missed it. Then TRBenj showed me up and hit it his first try. So I decided I'd better go back and work on it. Got her back. 
Gives you something to shoot for next weekend. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: LakeBoy
Date Posted: July-07-2008 at 5:25pm
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Nice go! Your butt did not even touch. Stud. Nice work. Footin' water looked pretty good.
Your boom looks pretty high, eh? |
Posted By: k.o.
Date Posted: July-07-2008 at 5:27pm
i envy you guys i still can't get up rough water. we had calm water past saterday but we went with people who had paid to go with us so they wanted to tube and not see me try to foot ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7587" rel="nofollow - 86 ski nautique |
Posted By: ripster92
Date Posted: July-08-2008 at 1:17am
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Good job LakeBoy and 75!
I have STILL not had the guts to jump out of the ski's. I can deep water start just fine so I'm content with that. Lakeboy, are you having trouble turning the board or are you just waiting too long... Or, is the boat picking up too much speed. To get you out there without doing a triple lindy over the wake, you will have to get out there before you hit the original roller that is created when the boat takes off. On the wake board you can comfortably go like 15-20 until you get into your three-point. Then the boat can gradually pick up the pace until you are ready to stand your butt up. You'll have to start cutting right after the boat starts pulling you. You will inevitably cut too far out but you can make it back to the good water as you feel comfortable. ------------- 1992 SN Black w/ Yellow |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: July-08-2008 at 5:20pm
Nice Goggles  ------------- |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: July-08-2008 at 5:33pm
Bad eyes...contacts...keeps 'em from washin' away.  ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: July-08-2008 at 5:52pm
I used to wear contacts... Now I wear glasses and just ski blind ------------- |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: July-10-2008 at 1:38am
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Very nice grave jump.
You have had a pretty good couple a weeks...bacerds and gravejumps...nice. Personally I think the goggles, tinted no less, are way cool. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: August-04-2008 at 3:10pm
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I like the goggles myself. ------------- http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN |
Posted By: Jetski180
Date Posted: August-04-2008 at 4:38pm
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I just wanted to say that all of you guys give great advice. I learned how to Barefoot when I was 14 years old behind my Jet Ski with a KneeBoard and a lot of falls. Now I barefoot when ever I have the chance 12 years later, long line dropping a ski. I am one of the only people I ever see barefooting on my lake. Barefooting is something that I will always love. Thanks for all the great advice.
Jeff ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3479 - 1994 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: LakeBoy
Date Posted: August-08-2008 at 7:22pm
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Sorry guys, I haven't posted too much lately. I have been on the water doing quite a bit footin'. My wife is concerned I have lost my interest in slalom (I haven't).
Still working the basics on posture and glide. I have been able to long-line and on the boom with reasonable consistency. I took a huge wipeout last month on the long line at 42 MPH. Not just the tumble and roll, but more like the face-first scorpion style neck tweaker. My previous falls over the weeks were like: "that wasn't too bad.." With this tumble I thought, " OK, now I know what they are talking about.." My neck is still tight, but still footin'. I am always satisfied when I rack a few good runs. I don't push it for that "one more run." Keeps it safe. Attached are a couple of pics from a mid-July session. 
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Posted By: LakeBoy
Date Posted: August-10-2008 at 7:22pm
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Just got back from a foot session with a crew I hooked up with near Sacramento. These guys are serious footers and really rip it up. A bit intimidating at first, but after the first pass, all was relaxed.
These guys really helped me out and re-focused me on the basics of my butt glide, three point position, glide and post,ure. These guys are not instructors per se, but each one of them takes a pilgrimage to Florida in the winter for instruction from the heavies like Bowers, Scarpa, and Seipel. It shows too in how well they foot. I benefitted greatly from their experience and really makes the case that going out by yourself with the wife driving (my case) may not further your progress, and may even slow it down by developing bad habits. (again, my situation). Makes me want to take a trip to Florida.... 
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Posted By: Mark Mel
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 1:47am
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First time on the boom tonight. I've bounced around on my ass longline and got up for maybe 20 seconds. Then I thought I'd get a boom so I know what the correct posture feels like.
I did notice that with just the driver in the boat, and the narrow beam of my '78, the boat rolls over - a lot. I think I need some weight to offset. Here's some video. Please give pointers. Is the boom too high? Too low? http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v236/mpm32/Boat/?action=view¤t=081808Barefoot.flv"> 
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 1:28pm
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Mark, nicely done! Boom height looks fine. As far as form goes, straighten your arms, bring your shoulders back (stick out your chest) and bring your hips forward. ------------- |
Posted By: LakeBoy
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 1:35pm
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Mark,
Boom looks good. Could be a touch higher so you are not so crouched over. Won't add up to too much, in my opinion, higher or lower. The best thing you can do to help yourself is lengthen your arms. You are holding them very tight, and pulled toward the boom. Relax them, lengthen them. Get rid of the death grip. This will be a huge improvement and will help you when you get on the rope. I heard a quip that makes sense to me: If you pull your arms toward you, you go backwards, if you push them away you go forwards. Give your arms to to the boom or handle. You will ski better, and have more strength. Based on what I see you are ready to hook up a barefoot handle to the end of the boom and do some deep water starts. If you don't have it, go to thefootersedge.com and buy Lane Bowers instructional video. Well worth the 40.00. Also if you go to Youtube.com, Lane posts a lot of video there. Keyword "learning to barefoot" and one of his videos is sure to pop up. If you click the "DawgTV" channel, it will bring up 60 or so instruction clips. Well done... |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 1:45pm
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Mark, one thing I noticed is that when you swing yourself around, you do it so gently that your butt never really gets out in front of you. Thus, when you stand up, your butt stays behind the whole time and you can't confidently stand up straight because of it. When you swing yourself around, try to push your legs and butt ahead of you, so that you're gliding more on the small of your back (not actually but it should feel something like that) before you dip your feet in.
That way when you dip your feet in , you come up in the "chair" position since everything is aligned right- feet, then knees, then torso. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: Mark Mel
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 2:27pm
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Excellent tips, I'll try them on Friday. Especially the arm thing. Maybe that's why my arms are so sore today. ;) And work on the glide thing too.
I can deepstart all day long line. I have a nice Barefoot International line and handle. I just can't stand up - for long. Only 20 seconds max before a maximum velocity wipeout. So I thought I'd get a boom and work on that before I hurt myself. I do watch the Dawg on youtube too. I'm surprised no one made fun of my funky jumpsuit I'm using. Got it off ebay, with the funkiest pair of 80s barefoot shorts. lol The suit says Oxbow something on the back. Must be from an Oxbow lake MA team. LOL just watched again and I really notice the bent arm deathgrip. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=972&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - 1978 Nautique FBook - www.facebook.com/charliedontsurfct |
Posted By: Mark Mel
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 2:37pm
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Oh and when I bought the used boom the guy said it was a straight drop boom, I guess he was saying it's a contour boom. When I got it, it turned out to be a quad contour boom. So it drops down and sweeps back. It puts the gunwale pad right on my teak step-pad.
I thought that this might be an issue but in my extremely novice opinion, it doesn't seem to be a problem. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=972&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - 1978 Nautique FBook - www.facebook.com/charliedontsurfct |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 2:57pm
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Mark, I second all the above but I especially see you with the classic C curve to the back. Your posture has you half way out the front right from the get go. Just throw those shoulders back, chest out and proud and then relax a bit. Your arms look like your pumping iron, this is supposed to be fun. Work on your posture and the glide will come.
Take Lakeboys advice and get Lane's DVD, you won't regret it. Secondly , hook up with a few of the guys at Lake George and do some footing with them, my skiing always improves when I ski with people better than me (which is most of the time) ------------- |
Posted By: Mark Mel
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 3:23pm
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Thanks Alan.
I'm bring all of my stuff to ski and barefoot and I hope to hook up with people up there. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=972&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - 1978 Nautique FBook - www.facebook.com/charliedontsurfct |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 3:35pm
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It's going to be hard to correct any posture issues without those hips being more forward of the body before the feet get dipped in. You want to be in the "chair" position, but just tipped back a bit before you plant your feet so that once you do, it just looks like you're getting tipped forward in the chair. You want to be "stacked" right before your feet hit the water. I'm no expert but I think that's where MM should focus at the moment.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 3:40pm
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I gotta disagree, Joel. His plant doesnt look too bad to me- if he's able to deep up long line, he's doing something right. His feet are back, knees are bent, and hes standing up slow. If you dont sit up when you plant, youre in trouble- Ive seen people plant with their back on the water- not pretty. The plant is always a little screwy on the boom anyways since you cant tuck it into your hips like you would a handle.
Mark, just work on that glide- arms out, shoulders back, hips forward. Im sure you'll make progress before Lake George, but Ill be bringing all my gear as well. ------------- |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 4:23pm
Why not correct the issue as early on in the sequence as possible? MM's arms are just as bent before he plants as they are afterwards. My point is that there should be no major adjustment in your body position or arm straightening in your 3-point stance as compared to your actual standing position. If he can fix his body position in the butt glide or 3-point then all that's left is standing up. Same goes for long line. My guess LL is that he's not set correctly when he plants his feet, yielding an unstable position that doesn't last long behind the boat. You probably haven't felt this in a long time since you were probably footing at age 5 but once you start in the wrong position (e.g. butt-back) it's very difficult to shift that center of mass forward once you are on your feet (edit: meaning when the feet start behind, they stay behind). If you start with the right position it's easy. I'm just fresh on this stuff since I just started barefooting a couple years ago. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 4:45pm
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I agree with Joel on the 3 point position, most people go from a butt glide to standing up and forget all about this step. It takes patience and practice not to rush anything.
3 point= butt glide, knees bent and both feet on the surface. Roll your shoulders back and quietly stand up, you will be in a chair position with your feet directly below your knees. Shoulders back gets your hips forward automatically so back to the posture arguement. I also hate the term "Plant your feet" because it gives the wrong impression of what good technique really is. Many many barefooters skip the 3 point but it is the foundation for your tumble turns so you might as well learn things in the correct order. You can't glide without posture but nail good posture and the glide just happens. ps. I've been barefooting for 27 years and I'm still working on my posture. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 4:50pm
I still maintain that teaching a good 3-point on the boom is difficult, as handle placement is critical, and you cant control that until youre at least on the 5' line. His arms could be straighter, but I think Mark's looks better than most. Joel, Ive been barefooting a long time, but bringing it back to basics over the last year or so has improved my skiing tremendously. FYI, neither of the pros Ive skied with in that timeframe advocated the 3-point stance. ------------- |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 5:05pm
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Tim,
I'm refering to this weekend when he ditches that pole and sets up the short line. Mark wrote "I can deepstart all day long line. I have a nice Barefoot International line and handle. I just can't stand up - for long" He can't stand up for long because he's not in the correct position to do so, without seeing anymore video I can tell you he's going out the front and taking a beating. He's bent over so far his feet are practically behind him. So get in a 3point and then stand up. Not picking on you Mark, just constructive criticism. ------------- |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 5:07pm
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My 3 point lasts about .001 seconds before I stand up- it's basically a controlled plant- do I can't say I ever ride a 3 pointer long. As I understand it A 3 point does not have the handle tight to the waist- that's a butt glide. MM doesn't have to be in a 3 point on the boom, but he does need to have his arms straight and be stacked before his feet hit the water. My LL ups are not technically correct since I just go from feet on the rope to feet on the water but I can get away with it because I'm stacked properly before they drop. When I'm up, I'm generally in a good, solid position because of what I was doing during my butt glide. It's not like I get up, then get in the right position. I'm in the right position instantly because that's how I started. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 5:17pm
Agreed, your .001 in that position is setting up your Plant. I think Lane over emphasizes this in his video but the point is it's still a good fundamental skiing position to learn. I think most footers with a little experience typically don't spend much time in a 3 point but a beginner could benefit by learning it as it slows down the planting/standing up process. ------------- |
Posted By: Mark Mel
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 5:52pm
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Hey, I'm not taking this anyway other than constructive criticism. I appreciate any help and tips I can get. ;)
I'll try to remember all of them next time I go. I did feel a little too forward. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=972&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - 1978 Nautique FBook - www.facebook.com/charliedontsurfct |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 6:06pm
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Mark,
Be careful of Timmy, particularly if he tries to get you in that 4 point stance!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 6:10pm
HAHAHAHA. Brilliant. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: LakeBoy
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 6:26pm
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I'll jump back in here.
I had an amazing week of barefooting. I got out 4 times (a lot for a dad of 4 and a business owner). 3 times were with 2 different crews of barefooters I met on the internet in my area. (footers are friendly and are always welcoming a novice to provide entertainment value..LOL) These guys were hot. You name it, they can do it. Short rope, long line, backwards, forwards, slalom, jumps. They kept coming back to me on 3-point, butt glide (and posture/foot glide) as a REALLY important basic. They busted me on stabbing my feet in the water v. a controlled 3 point, then stand. Relaxing, breathing, and having fun were top on the list too. They really helped me out. Last week I was able to do controlled wipers, 180 butt glides, hit my first 2 tumble turns including getting back up to my feet. I also made enough progress on my butt glide/TPP to absolutely nail a long line get up that went over half a mile. Before I could only do it on the hydroslide. I have learned that driving is real important. I had my wife pull me last Friday. She did her best and as I directed her, but it was much harder than when my boys were able to match the speed to what I was doing. Fun, fun... |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: August-19-2008 at 7:29pm
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I have been footing for 31 years and I have been working on my posture more this year than ever. I've been more of a plower than glider. The three point is important as stated, to have a controlled "plant" instead of a stabbing of the feet. An added benefit is less spray while planting.
The old saying you can't teach an old dog goes out the window also. I've been footing for years with a baseball grip, because of a slalom backround. Changing to an overhand grip on deep ups helped me huge. I had a guy comment that he couldn't believe I used a baseball grip on bomb-outs (grave jumps jbear). I'm having a tough time changing my grip on those.
Steve ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |