Should a 2001 model lean to the Right?
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Topic: Should a 2001 model lean to the Right?
Posted By: Bri892001
Subject: Should a 2001 model lean to the Right?
Date Posted: September-27-2008 at 11:53pm
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Hi,
I just bought a very nice condition 89 2001 model today from a fairly local dealer. Everything with the boat seemed great; we took it out for a little test run and everything. One thing I did notice is that the boat leaned a little to the right. The mechanic driving it and myself were in the ballpark of equal weight and we were sitting opposite each other. Then I drove it, and same thing, to the right. His explanation matched the salesman's explanation so I didn't worry too much about this. They both said these boats are weighted on the right to counteract the propeller rotation. Does this sound right? Just a little worried about it. Thanks for any input. Brian |
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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:13am
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I have an '89 2001 & it does not lean to the right, either static or underway. I would guess for some reason yours has soaked foam on one side only.
If so, you might want to dig up the foam out that side before it rots out the stringer. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:19am
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Eesh, ok. Not the news I was hoping to hear. But, thanks very much for your input.
Very nice boat by the way 
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Posted By: pwningjr
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:19am
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Not to mention check the stringers just to be safe while you're in there. ------------- Jay "Proud to be a geek" Big Heavy (stephan): One can't always be perfect when water dancing on your shred stick. |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:44am
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Brian - Post a pic of your new ride. I hope you like it as much as we like ours.
PS - foam removal not as hard to do as it sounds. Search the site - there's tons of info on how to. I've never done it but expect to have to at some point. The guys here will give you great advice. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 1:11am
So, There's no way it's anything but this wet foam issue? The floor was definitely really solid. I walked all around it barefoot and everything. It wasn't like major listing, just slightly off balance. I actually didn't see it from outside the boat. Almost wondering if I should be trying to get out of this sale somehow. I just put down a down payment... |
Posted By: TRIP
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 2:25am
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Don't jump to any conclusions I'd say. Guess you have checked the rudder. Tracking fins maybe? Steering cable? I don't know, but I guess it could have tons of reasons.
Hope it's nothing major! ------------- http://www.flyzone-cr.com" rel="nofollow - FlyZone Costa Rica Wakeboarding http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=8406&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1997 Super Sport |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 2:35am
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These are narrow, weight sensitive boats. It's not at all unusual to see them list just slightly to one direction or the other. I wouldn't call it a deal breaker by any means. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 2:37am
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That boat is in nice shape. As trip said, don't jump to conclusions. Does it have an extra battery? Gear stuffed on the right side under the bow. Was the driver a lot bigger than the passenger.
One way to know if you have wet foam is to weigh the boat and trailer. If it is wet enough to make the boat lean, you should see a fair delta in weight over the posted dry weight. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 2:37am
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doesn't quinner lean to the right too?
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 3:12am
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Thanks for the feedback and re-assurance. I think the list was pretty mild. Could have been a weight variaton/steering thing.
I think I'll just hope for the best and deal with it if/when it really is an issue. I'm sure compulsive worrying and boat ownership won't go well together anyway. |
Posted By: OM45GE
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 9:38am
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Hi Brian,
Nice boat! Welcome to the 2001 clan. I got your diaries message on my Blackberry as well. As the others have said, these boats are sensitive to weight distribution. If you're in it alone, it's definitely going to list to the right. That's the second time I've heard the weighted to off-set the prop story, but I have no idea if it's urban myth or reality. You're going to love the boat. Where do you keep it? Bill ------------- 1989 SN 2001 |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 10:21am
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Very nice 2001 Brian. It looks as though it has been well looked after.
It even has the extremely rare 1 piece glove box lid. 
I like where the previous owner has added a cup holder on the drivers side also. Looks almost factory original. ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 10:40am
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Thanks for your response Bill. Your boat looks really nice as well.
Well, I'm glad to hear at least one other person has heard the weighted story. That gives it a better chance of being true. This one will see most of it's time on a small lake in NH, which is actually perfect for this boat. I purposely avoided anythng too big. Leaving with the dealer in storage till spring. It's going to be a long winter! |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 10:59am
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That's a sharp ride!
FWIW-I rebuilt my stringers and floor recently, and it used to ride a little low on the drivers side. Now it lifts the drivers side when accelerating. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: shawnmc
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 11:22am
| nice boat and i like the color scheme. Welcome to the family! |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 11:30am
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Really nice boat, well worth any work you have to put into it. I'd be leary of the weighted story. ------------- |
Posted By: Barracuda
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 11:32am
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Brian, welcome to the site. Congrats on the New boat! I was just looking at the pics of that on the NECC website. Very nice.
Enjoy! -Brad ------------- Former: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=759" rel="nofollow - '86 Nautique http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=507" rel="nofollow - '65 Barracuda |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:23pm
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Brian - The boat I bought had a bent shaft/strut that I had to repair. (would have been nice if I had know how to check this so I could have gottten a better deal). I have no regrets buying it anyway because once that was repaired I got a great boat.
You are not going to find a 20 Yr old boat in perfect condition anywhere. So don't let the leaning issue unnerve you - it can be fixed if it is a problem at all. You might want to take another person with you & go for another test ride to verify the condition; esp. if there is any possibility you can get the seller to come down $ if it does need work. Where are you located? - maybe there is a site member nearby who can look at it with you. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:34pm
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Hi SNobsessed,
Well, I'm in Boston, the boat is still at the dealer in NH. It may be too late to come down on money since I put in a good deposit. And, I think the price I got was probably fair as long as the work needed isn't too major or something. The floor seemed very solid though, so I'm hoping it wouldn't be big. Everything under the hull looked to be in good order, no big scrapes or anything. The prop looked perfect. I don't know that I would have noticed a bent strut or something though. Would it be normal to take someone over for a second look after the sale? I'd appreciate that if someone had time next Saturday. |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:39pm
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Not unusual that it lists a little....BKH asked good questions about wieght. It does not take much. other things to check...look up in the bow...anchor or gear, extra batt(as mentioned,stereo and amp...or even the gas tank a little off center.
As far as foam issues go...boats that sit out uncovered exposed to rain are subject to soaked foam...yours looks well cared for. Or if the original floor is replaced...a lot of folks don't know to seal all screw holes which allows water to enter threw the sealed glassed in covering. ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:44pm
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That boat is gorgeous, but from what I've seen, if an older Correct Craft lists, it's got water in the hull. If it does, it's very expensive to pay someone to fix it. Maybe enough 2001 owners will chime in and give you their perspective. So the salesman and mechanic from New England Correct Craft stated they were designed to list? ------------- |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:50pm
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Brian - Conratulations on your purchase - it's a great looking boat & will serve you well.
Bring it home! This is is probably not a problem at all but if it is you can fix it yourself. Might be a great winter project. I had also bought mine in the fall, put it in storage right away & then ached to 'play' with it all winter. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 12:54pm
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Yeah, they both separately said that the boat was weight biased a little on the right. The prop would tend to lift the right side, so it seemed to be a plausible explanation.
I mostly noticed it when I was in the passenger seat, looking over the stern. I guess if something as minor as a battery could make it list, then the driver could have been that much heavier. I, unfortunately, didn't get to see it floating empty from outside the boat. There was no dock where we put it in and it wasn't a good day for swimming. |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 1:02pm
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Site guys - Random thought here - If you hoisted a boat from it's lift eyes, would it show the list on the hoist? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 1:16pm
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If it was just listing a little, it could be from anything. With 2 people of the same weight, I would think it would lean to the left under power, not the right. As SNObessed said, you're not going to find a perfect boat that's 20 years old. It looks like a great boat.
Here's a pic of my boat that the seller sent me before I bought it. It had a list and the foam was full of water. But I expected it. 
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 1:20pm
It might be easier/quicker to take a good look at the platform height and attitude over the water. Mine came up a good bit after the repairs and sits dead level when empty. but I didn't get a micrometer after it. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
SNobsessed wrote:Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 1:56pm
Good point/idea SNob. I just took this pict 10 minutes ago of our neighbor's red '72 Mustang. Notice how it leans to the right while hanging and it does list the same way in the water. It's all original, (looks identical to Fly'n Bryan's up at LG) and we feel it's got a bit of water under the floor. However, it DOES NOT list when under power. While hanging, or in the water, a mere +/- 20lbs of counteracting pressure will level it out. Brian above I don't think mentioned if it listed at all speeds or just at cruise, or WOT. Marshall's 340 Mustang hanging beside the red Mustang, hangs and floats level, but early on the hull dropped scarily to the right once you got very close to top speed, and that turned out to be a slightly bent rudder. FWIW. 
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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 2:15pm
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Hmmm, we were at kind of a slow cruise when I noticed it. I didn't really think to look for it at every speed.
It did seem to go back onto the trailer evenly. Wasn't like hitting the right side first of anything. |
Posted By: PLBC
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 8:00pm
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our 88 tilts right, could be a number of things. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5164&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 99 |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 10:37pm
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I heard that mountain goats have shorter legs on 1 side...maybe if it leans a little, you're on the wrong side of the mtn?!!? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 11:14pm
My 80 also leans to the right, funnny thing is nobody mentions a boat leaning left yet.
 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2095" rel="nofollow - 1980 Ski Nautique Commander 351W |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 11:36pm
Think about that- there are more parts installed on the driver's side. Dash parts, steering helm, etc. It doesnt take a whole lot of weight to lean one of the older, narrower boats over. A lot of the early boats had the battery under the front seat as well. As far as the 2001 goes, Im not sure if it would be normal for a boat to lean noticeably while sitting still in the water. Assuming the weight (gear) inside the boat is evenly distributed, then that may indicate its holding some water under the floor. While at speed, there are a number of other factors that come into play- mainly prop rotation and the hook of the hull. The hook is not equal on both sides, and any 2 hulls could have a slightly different shape. A slight lean while underway wouldnt concern me as much. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-28-2008 at 11:50pm
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Tim, I was just looking at your Ski Tique. You bought it the same time we bought the Mustang. I don't know how you restored it so fast. It looks really good. Great job! ------------- |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 12:12am
| my 86 leans ever so slightly to the right also. I just decided it was because all the steering and dash stuff and the built up area behind the foot rest where the hull vents go under the floor. Its perfect underway at slalom speeds. |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 12:51am
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Man that is a nice lookin' boat you have there Luciano! You must be a very popular guy around there.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Ian Sr
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 1:49am
| Looks like all these boat leaning to the right Are voting for Mcain. |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 3:29am
Well, I did find a few that clearly had a slight right ward bias while parked. Actually, I found a few more images like that, but none going to the left. I want to ask to see it one more time, just floating, with no one in it. Would that be an unreasonable request, post sale? |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 9:53am
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I wouldn't be surprised if that wakeboard on the rack isn't helping the list a little bit in that pic. Also, take a look at the engine. It could be slid over on its mounts one way or another because that's just the way it was built (by hand). That's an 800lb weight that just has to be slightly off center to cause a little lean. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 10:03am
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lean or list? right or starboard? lol ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 12:48pm
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Check a Skylark out or any left hand drive boats.. I'm sure it's the dash/helm parts making it list in the direction of the driver..
Now in my case, I figured after the 20th beer, I'm about 15 lbs heavier in the late afternoon, so....... 
Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: Chris4x4gill2
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 2:49pm
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mine (89 ski) leans slightly to the driver side as well. The Prev Owner put 100lbs of sand bags in the bow on that side so I expected it. I havent taken then out yet to see if it sits level without them.
The only time i can tell is at slow speed without anyone else in the boat. Sitting empty(with bags) it is a very slight tilt. |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 4:21pm
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Well, I wound up calling Correct Craft corporate. The gentleman I spoke to was very helpful and actually a member of this site.
He said, by 1989 these hulls were never intentionally weighted. He said the whole 2001 line was very well balanced and sorted out. I guess some of the older ones were in fact weighted. He did said some variances, such as fiberglass thickness etc., could cause a slight lean one way or the other and that's normal. I was under the bow of my boat to look at wiring and such and didn't notice anything heavy, or anything at all up there except a couple of lifejackets on the left side. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 5:02pm
well maybe you overlooked the hugh hump called the dash where there is much more glass on the drivers side than the other, Also maybe you missed all of the wiring and gauges that are not on both sides. Also maybe you missed the steering cable, clamp block, wiring harness and all of the other crap that is on the drivers side that is not on the other side, and you really want to say that makes no difference on the weights bias? please there is so much more crap on the right side it has to lean that way, then lets not forget about the wakeboard and the engine components that also weigh down the right side. Please worry about something that matters because as soon as you sit in the drivers seat it's going lean that way anyway unless you are under full power. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 7:37pm
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Ok see a pattern here. They all seem to mention a right hand lean. Funny how none of these boats get wet on port side.
Now for the real reason. These were tournament boats. A driver, timer, and judge would be riding during a competitors run. 3 people in the front. Two on a portside buddy seat facing aft and one driver on starboard. Even with two equal weight passengers the weight will be off. Try putting 3 in the front and the boat will level off. My vote would be lean by design, but you should get your deposit and come buy mine. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-29-2008 at 7:47pm
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I really don't think you have a problem.
Now this guy does!! 
Too much gear, equipment and wake boards on the port side! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: wake_2001
Date Posted: September-30-2008 at 11:52pm
| Mine lists a little to the right at speed, with no weight, but it's because it has a new motor and the prop rotates the opposite way as the original. I guess the right side weight would offset the original prop rotation. I can't even notice it unless I'm by myself, with no weight, and running about 20+ |
Posted By: trikeaholic
Date Posted: October-01-2008 at 1:09pm
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mine is the exact same as Luchog's. I stressed about it for a while then finally just blew it off. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Ithaca NY http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=326707 - My Boat |