New Floor
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Printed Date: May-04-2024 at 1:42pm
Topic: New Floor
Posted By: Rbest
Subject: New Floor
Date Posted: February-17-2004 at 8:39pm
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Hello, I have a 1968 correct craft mustang. I bought it as a restore project and it currently does not have a floor. It does have stringers and supports. Does anyone have pictures of a restore that I could reference in building my floor? ------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
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Posted By: lectrician89
Date Posted: February-17-2004 at 8:52pm
| I don't have pictures to help you, but my floor is marine plywood in four pieces. Don't think it really matters. What motor do you have? I'm interested--you are the only one I've heard with a 68 |
Posted By: Rbest
Date Posted: February-17-2004 at 9:10pm
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I have the plywood, I just wanted to see what the frame looks like under the floor. I have 210 interceptor. It has the center console with dual shifters. ------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
Posted By: Rbest
Date Posted: February-18-2004 at 5:43pm
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I guess no one has pic's of there floor restore project. ------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: February-18-2004 at 5:47pm
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check the diaries I thought there where some pictures there. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: kenny g
Date Posted: February-18-2004 at 6:47pm
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ROB, go to diaries 1976-80 marc dillers 77 ski tique will give you a good idea of whats going on under your floor. ------------- kenny g |
Posted By: tryan
Date Posted: February-18-2004 at 8:44pm
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the 'need an investor' thread has a link to a previous restoration project.
i forget what the drain holes are called, but it won't hurt to add extra. here is some http://www.strictlyinboards.com/1969CCMustangpics.htm - carnage .but i did not see any floor support shots. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=146&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - promo http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=192&yrstart=1925&yrend=1970 - #2 |
Posted By: Rbest
Date Posted: February-18-2004 at 10:00pm
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I guess I will just wing it. Thank you. ------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
Posted By: tryan
Date Posted: February-18-2004 at 10:13pm
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my 72 has two long sections that run from the center of the stringers along the curvature of gunwhales/gunnels. there is a front rectangular section that runs under the engine lid to the bow. the rear rectangular section is under the rear of the engine lid back to the tank. these are just the top panels.
the link on my other post shows which sections are glassed in underneath these 4 carpet covered panels. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=146&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - promo http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=192&yrstart=1925&yrend=1970 - #2 |
Posted By: Rbest
Date Posted: February-18-2004 at 11:04pm
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Thank you. What I really need is to see how the skeleton looks under the floor. The guy I bought the boat from took all the foam out and started to redo the skeleton other than the stringers. I just need to see what it is suppose to look like. I have an Idea, but I just want to make sure. ------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
Posted By: tryan
Date Posted: February-20-2004 at 10:35pm
support the boat so she lays straight. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=146&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - promo http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=192&yrstart=1925&yrend=1970 - #2 |
Posted By: Rbest
Date Posted: February-22-2004 at 2:28am
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Is there anymore photos?
------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
Posted By: tryan
Date Posted: February-22-2004 at 1:20pm
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i would send an email to marc. i stole that photo from the diaries.
pressure treated lumber is usually number 2. you'll need to hand pick some clear tight grained examples preferably from the bottom of the tree. no knots. yellow pine has almost twice the strength of white pine lumber, but is more apt to warp. (if you go to bills hydro link you can read about spruce and fir strains of lumber.) if you do use pressure treated, i would buy a few boards and leave them out in the sun and see what happens. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=146&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - promo http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=192&yrstart=1925&yrend=1970 - #2 |
Posted By: tryan
Date Posted: February-24-2004 at 11:41am
another shot from the diaries...the wildcat. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=146&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - promo http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=192&yrstart=1925&yrend=1970 - #2 |
Posted By: woodyelc
Date Posted: February-24-2004 at 7:05pm
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DO NOT USE PRESSURE TREATED AS RESIN WILL NOT STAY STUCK TO IT BECAUSE OF THE CHEMICALS USE D ------------- woodyelc |
Posted By: tryan
Date Posted: February-24-2004 at 11:39pm
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fir would be the wood of choice. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=146&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - promo http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=192&yrstart=1925&yrend=1970 - #2 |
Posted By: Rbest
Date Posted: February-26-2004 at 8:52pm
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Here is a little subject change. Has anyone installed a 351w in a late 60s 16' mustang? ------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
Posted By: h2oskeefreek
Date Posted: March-01-2004 at 2:06pm
not sure how long a Ford Mustang is, but I've seen plenty of late '60's with 460's 
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Posted By: Rbest
Date Posted: March-01-2004 at 10:34pm
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You are kidding right? ------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
Posted By: PKster
Date Posted: March-02-2004 at 10:38pm
| Wow, a 460? Damn, I've got the 302 and it's pretty crammed in as it is. Maybe with some modification to the engine area. |
Posted By: JeffinLodi
Date Posted: March-17-2004 at 3:30am
Hi Rob, I have a '67 Mustang with a 351 and a need for a new floor. I would appreciate hearing of your experience. Jeff |
Rbest wrote:Posted By: boatnut
Date Posted: March-17-2004 at 9:56am
| If the pressure treated lumber is DRY and sanded with 36 grit ,resin should stick. If you really want to do it right, use douglas fir. I dried all the PT (# 1 decking) for 6 weeks.Same with the PT plywood. Anything can't be worse than the way it was made with almost dry choppergun and unwet out roving. |
Posted By: Rbest
Date Posted: March-18-2004 at 3:52pm
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What prop do you have in the 67 mustang with the 351? How does it run? ------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
Posted By: tstafford
Date Posted: March-20-2004 at 6:51pm
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I belive that the floor on my 68 Mustang was origonal before I removed it. It has a fiberglass tray that sits on top of the floor. When I removed the tray, the floor looked as though fiberglass mat was wetted out over the foam and stringers. The glass was about 1/16 of an inch thick and tabbed one inch up the side of the boat.
I have some good pictures of the guts of my Mustang, but it is not finished yet. Hope it helps. ------------- Trevor 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: Rick
Date Posted: March-21-2004 at 12:06am
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Rob I run a 13X13cupped on my 66 barracuda and it pulls great with a top end of 49MPH@ 4800RPM. For Wakeboarding I run a 14X11. the top end is about the same but I can pull 3 boarders up at once ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=250&yrstart=1996&yrend=2000%20" rel="nofollow - 2000 Ski |
Posted By: Rbest
Date Posted: March-22-2004 at 3:39pm
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Thanks Rick. Nice looking boat. If anyone has pic's of there floor without the seats and engine cover I would greatly appreciate it. ------------- Rob 68MustangSS |
Posted By: planeguy140
Date Posted: April-02-2004 at 6:26pm
| I am also looking for pictures. I am putting in a new floor on a 1971 Barracuda. Tim |
Posted By: 68Mustang16
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 7:49pm
Not a 351 but I have a 68 mustang with a 350 chevy. Very simple and very smooth. I am new here and I am hopping to get some stringer help. I have just a shell left as I am beginning her second restoration. ------------- Gary |
Posted By: 68Mustang16
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 7:53pm
How did you get the hull so clean and is that structure the same as the original. gorgeous work! That is what I want to do with mine. Any more info and pics will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much ------------- Gary |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 8:02pm
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FYI gary this thread is about 4 years old and probably wont get much of response. However there is plenty to see here on floors and stringers and at least a half dozen of us currently in the middle of the process. On current thread is titled "weeding the pumpkin patch" under the boat maintanece forum. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 8:13pm
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Gary, if there was a 302 in there, you will run into ex. manifold clearance issues.There is a lot of width added to the 351,the motor will fit but the hood won't close.
A simple search will bring up all the info you need,my floor job is under: Hi Teks installed ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 9:32pm
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This guy and hasbeen cleaned out their hull completly without pancaking issues. This sure would make the refit easier to get straight! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 9:45pm
In case you didnt realize it, thats Pete Brainard's Tique. The previous owner redid the stringers. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 10:08pm
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Wow!! Yup, just noticed the old thread being brought back to life. Tim is correct guys. That is my Tique - now! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 10:12pm
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Pete, did you realize that your Tique is still listed in the diaries under the former owner? Might be cool to check out if you havent seen it:
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=204 - Miss Merie II ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 10:23pm
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Tim, I did know it was still there. I talked to Mark a couple months after I got the boat and mentioned the listing. He didn't seem to excited about bothering to get in touch with Keith. I'll bet my Tique isn't the only same boat duplicate!
There's lots of boats in the "for sale" section too that people without any common courtesy neglect to tell Keith that the boat is sold. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: February-29-2008 at 11:23pm
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That's the guy I bought the 1966 brochure from on ebay that I put on the site. ------------- |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 12:14am
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Oh, it's no big deal Pete. Kind of preserves the history and the stories behind the boats. It's all good. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 6:56am
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I didn't realize that was now Pete's Tique, but I have seen the picture several times. The thing about that pic that gets my attention is that the floor and strigers seem to be on the same plane. This is not the case with my boat. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-01-2008 at 8:51pm
Yep, the BFN and its deep-V hull allow the motor to sit down lower. Most CC's have main stringers at floor height. ------------- |
Posted By: 68Mustang16
Date Posted: March-12-2008 at 4:25pm
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I am new and I am replacing my stringers in my 68 mustang16. I am at a loss for how to get back to the current subject that I post in. I have a 350 chevy in mine and i know you guys are purists, so I apologize in advance. Yes I did raise my engine cover and have married at least 6 different marine adaptations in the motor compartment. from the exhaust manifolds to the water pump etc. thank god for google.
I have dug out all rotted wood and kept my fiberglass gunnels for the main spar. I have cut new stringers to fit into the new gunnels. About 5 feet total on both sides. The rest of the stringers were drill tested and dried out for about 4 weeks with a covered hull and heater. I then used cepes to attach to the dried wood. about 4 quarts were poored into the drilled holes until it surfaced and the old stringers were saturated. I now am going to use the same cepes with fine sawdust put into the open gunnels and let it ooz out the top and then cover with resin and glass. Now that I have seen some of these pics of totally new sub structure, amazing work by the way. should I do that and take all the structure out and replace the whole thing? I have a plan but not confident when I see you experts in this forum. I want to get some pics so I can use you guys to help me! can someone e-mail me and tell me how I can return to the same forum for follow up and help without searching for where my post is. thanks folks. gary luckydog2023@gmail.com ------------- Gary |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-12-2008 at 6:50pm
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ok maybe I'm wrong on this but isn't the gunnel the top portion along the sides of the boat where the tread plates are located and sit on?
did you use the rot doctor stuff? it sounds like you just cut the top of the stringer off or the fiberglass that covers it. Post some pictures of what you have. It depends on how long you are going to keep the boat and weather or not you want to take on this job so close to spring. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-12-2008 at 10:42pm
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Gary, I have always recommended the replacement of all the wood when doing a stringer job. I don't feel it is really that much more work to completely go down to the bare hull. In fact, I feel less to just rip and cut rather than carefully cut, dig, drill and pour. Next, I would not want to chance the bond between the old and new wood. Completely dry? Did you use a moisture meter? You will not seal the bottom side of the old wood against the hull with epoxy. Moisture will get through the old polyester - it is hygroscopic and epoxy isn't. I have seen lots of "rot doctor" patches on wood boats. Looks good for awhile until the wood next to the "rot doctor" rots!
Yes, I too am curious like Chris if you are keeping the boat. Restoration? Post some pictures. Welcome to CCfan. I hope you find all the info you are looking for and if not, just ask. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 68Mustang16
Date Posted: March-12-2008 at 11:22pm
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Yes Gunnel is the wrong word, fiberglass shell that I cut the top off and dug the rotted wood out. I am keeping this boat forever I hope so time and labor are not an issue.
You guys are leaning twords take every piece of wood out and start again? It seams it may be the prudent course. I have a great 67 chrysler lonestar mustang to use this summer. That is a whole different story. BC yes it is the rot doctor resin. I will get som pics tonight and have them up on thursday. thanks guys gary ------------- Gary |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: March-12-2008 at 11:39pm
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Gary, welcome aboard! FWIW, I haven't found a dry spot in the http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9543&PN=1 - pumpkin patch . Everything I've opened up has a puddle under it. My point I guess is be suspicious! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-13-2008 at 12:48am
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Don't pull both stringers at the same time if you replace them and be carefull how you support the hull once you do so that, you maintain the hull's shape while the stringer is out. Also this gives you a template to use for the repair. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: 68Mustang16
Date Posted: March-13-2008 at 5:54am
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The hull is without stringers and I have a bulge. I have bitten the head off the chicken so I am in for the long haul. The whole stringer assembly is comming out. the pics are close behind. thanks for the help and I just needed the nudge of doubt to do this the hard way. THANKS ALOT GUYS!!!!
Gary ------------- Gary |