#2 trailer work
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Topic: #2 trailer work
Posted By: storm34
Subject: #2 trailer work
Date Posted: September-09-2010 at 6:25pm
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Ok guys, I've got an appt to have some new springs made for my #2 trailer. I think i'm going to have a new axle put on while i'm at it. If I remember correctly the original was 2,000# or so. I was thinking of going up to 2,800# range. Both the axle and springs look to be pretty played out. Below is a picture of what it looks like right now with the Tique on it. I have the guides, but they will need some work as they are rusted at the bases.
Any suggestions of what size axle to put on it or any other info I should know before I take it in? 
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-09-2010 at 6:43pm
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Chris, I looked into this when I went through my 2 #2's a few years ago. You will find that most axles/hubs will carry a rating around 2200, then it goes up to 3500, and then 5000. Hubs will follow these ratings, tires and springs not so much- but you need to consider them all.
Long story short, I decided to stay at the 2200 lb rating. This was the only weight rating I could get in a 4-lug hub, which I wanted to keep. It also ended up being about the max a 13" trailer tire will handle (1360 x 2 = 2720). I dont recall the ratings on my new springs (they were custom), but going a little beyond the other components wouldnt be the worst thing in the world. It appears you have 12" wheels/tires on that trailer, which probably have a pretty marginal rating for the boats you plan to carry... while they would probably get the job done, they will likely still be the weakest link, even if you stay with the 2200lb hardware. You would probably have to upgrade those to larger 5 lugs if you go to a beefier axle. I wouldnt hesitate to stay with the 2200lb stuff though- Ive towed my Skier trailer back and forth to GL twice without issue, so just keep an eye on bearings, tires, etc and you'll be fine. ------------- |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: September-09-2010 at 6:53pm
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Tim, what would the 78 #2's have on them for wheels? 14?
I think I told you already, but this was under a late 60's mustang (you can tell by the fenders). I wouldn't mind making it look a little more like a 78 #2 but I've also got the 70 skier which fits the current look. That boat won't be done for a while so I figured I could do both by changing the fenders out? Edit. Are these the 14"?  ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-09-2010 at 7:16pm
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Chris, I would keep that 60's #2 exactly how it is. I would keep the fenders that are on there now- you can stuff 13" under them (just barely) if you want. Thats what I did with mine. Bruce's trailer has the other fenders that were commonly used in the late 60's and early 70's (wider/flatter), the wheels look like 13's to me.
Personally, I think the 70's boats look cool on an older trailer, while the 60's boats look a little out of place on the larger tired, square fendered versions. The square fenders are not cheap to fabricate, by the way- and you would need to extend the rails to support them- so more welding and $$ involved. If you want to see what the original 14's looked like on a 70's #2, check out the diary for my http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?Id=1861 - Tique .  ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-09-2010 at 7:57pm
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Chris,
I agree with Tim on keeping the spring rate close to the original. All a higher rating will do is make the trailer/boat ride rougher. The trailer that I use for my Dunphy originally had 3500 lb. springs on it. I actually ended up going with 2200 mono springs (one leaf) and the improvement was very noticeable. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: September-09-2010 at 8:41pm
and I agree with Tim on keeping the original fenders. Personally, I don't like those square fenders either (No offense Tim to you Tique). The 78 looks great on there and obviously so will your skier. Here is a picture of the original wheels (and rubber on the guides).
 ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: NEDLUTZ
Date Posted: September-09-2010 at 9:15pm
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try this place for fenders,axles. I got brakes and backing plates for a good price.
http://www.trailerpartsdepot.com/index.asp?url=IND - http://www.trailerpartsdepot.com/index.asp?url=IND |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-09-2010 at 11:02pm
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Chris, I did mine a couple of years ago,the big problem being mine has 12" tires. Almost impossible to find but Eastern Marine has them.They are 6 ply rated,1045 lbs. They are Chinese tho and thats what worries me. I would like to get new hubs and 13" tires. I'm still using my original axle but had new springs custom made.They started out 4 leafs and after I had it all together, I took it back with the boat on and they recommended to add another leaf.
Your going to need hat bushings if it's like mine and Eastern has them http://www.easternmarine.com/Hat-Style-Leaf-Spring-Bushing/ - here no one else has them or could get them that I could find. If you need any measurements or pic's let me know  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 12:55am
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Gary, you have brought that boat a long way!
I'm pretty sure my trailer is exactly like yours. How many hat bushings do you think I will need? I'll go ahead and order them now since they're cheap and I have the time before I take it in. Thanks for all the input guys, you're all awesome! ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 2:44am
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Thanks Chris. I owe that to Keith and his site,before that I just used it. My trailer used 12 bushings, 6 per side,2 in the front spring eyes and 4 in the rear shackle eyes. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 3:13am
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Perfect, I will get an order in tomorrow morning. Any thing else I would need? ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 10:32am
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The wheels on my trailer are 12" and I forget the size, but they are the heaviest 12"s I've seen. They are 4 lug. They sell them everywhere, but only in the spoked wheels. I recently put new bearings and hubs on it and had no trouble finding replacements at NAPPA. I went with new hubs as the old ones had cracks that were apparent once their machine shop sand blasted them. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 10:49am
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Northern Tool has a standard (not spoked) 12" rim that uses a 4.80 or 5.30 tire. These are the rims that I used on my TeeNee for the Atom. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 11:05am
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Pete, Gary pointed me to a supplier that has them also, but for some reason when they get up to a certtain size, they are spoked. When we bought the Classic the seller put a new axle and tires on it. He got us regular rims at that time. I bought a spare for it last year and looked for hours for a regular rim and could only find spokes. It is a 5 lug, 13".
No one seems to notice, but the Mustang trailer has one of each. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 12:04pm
We ended up getting the Northern Tool wheels for our #2's as well. They were the only non-spoked wheels I could find, at least in 13". Not quite the same as the original steelies, but close. Bruce, if memory serves, they are the same as the ones under your Classic, but in 4-lug.
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 11:07pm
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Here's the only place I have found with 13" non spoke http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-317-az1714820wt11.aspx - trailerpart.com
I think they have 12" too. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-10-2010 at 11:42pm
Gary, was I unclear above? 
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200330318_200330318 - Northern Tool has them too. Ive got 2 sets. ------------- |
Gary S wrote:Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-11-2010 at 3:44am
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Naw Tim I said the only place I HAVE found them Senior moment I guess,yea thats it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: September-11-2010 at 5:12am
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Good thread! I am going to redo my #2 trailer this winter. Gotta get in these last months on the water before I tackle it though. ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: September-15-2010 at 5:49pm
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Ok guys, went to the only place in Des Moines that said they would make springs. He said at least $150 for each! Labor was going to be about 350 bucks + axle, hubs and bearings and putting it all together. I told him I was going to get wheels and tires.
Does this seem high? ------------- |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: September-15-2010 at 7:58pm
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Just got off the phone with Woody. I introduced myself and said I was working on a Correct Craft #2...his response was "thats funny, I'm on Correct Craft Fan looking at a post about a #2!" How awesome of a resource is Correct Craft Fan?!
I called every freaking trailer place in Des Moines and they all said they can't get me the springs I need and they all referred me to the place that quoted me this morning! Wood has the right springs, I think he said for 80 bucks. Much cheaper than the 150+ labor I was quoted! ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-15-2010 at 9:44pm
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Thats a good price I think Chris. I paid about 65 ea for mine then had them add a leaf later,so I bet it was about the same.That included new u bolts too.No shipping cause they were local. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: davidg
Date Posted: September-20-2010 at 12:30am
Gary....where did you get your springs in this area? That is on my list of things to do this winter as well for my #3. When I load the boat on, the fenders come down very close to the tires. The springs are old, and the boat has gained a few pounds over the years. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-20-2010 at 1:08am
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Spring Align in Palatine Dave,ask for Mark. Take him your old one and he can make them up. Have him make up new U bolts too and get those hat bushings from that place above. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-20-2010 at 11:36pm
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I'd say the old springs are a little shot, huh?
Hopefully going to get the spring seats welded to the axle tomorrow. Should be back together pretty soon, can't wait to have a trustworthy trailer.  ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 12:00am
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Are those the springs from Woody then? What axle and where did you get it? I'm going to get new hubs soon and I really want to go to 13" wheels too so I can get some Goodyear tires. I just have a bad feeling about these 12" foreign tires,and I want to pull my boat a long way this comming March ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 12:28am
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Gary - Don't assume the Goodyears are made in the USA - Some are & others, well . . . ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 12:45am
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I didn't know that Chris,thanks.At least they are willing to put Goodyear on them.I have Loadstars on there now with an 800 number on the sidewall for questions which makes me wonder ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 1:09am
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Gary, I'm a little torn on what axle to put on. I'm just happy to have some springs that aren't going to snap!
Woody sent me all the stuff to get the original back on quick. What does everyone think about putting a round axle and a little camber? ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 1:20am
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Whats wrong with the axle you have Chris? I just cleaned mine up and reused.If I remember correctly the axle is a odd size,width wise also.Everything must have been custom made for Correct Craft. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 1:38am
And where might that be....should we get the guest room ready??? Let me be a bit more direct...this better be in the vincinity of Lake Wales Florida. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 1:53am
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High Point, NC 1st, then maybe Gator Country!
Guess I need to pay attention to this thread, as I and Mr.Tim Morfoot will be on the way this Friday the 22nd to the BoatDr's to pick up a #2 CC Trailer for the 66 Skylark 
Mr.Eric Clarke was gonna be my sidekick originally , but work calls, so we'll miss him  Don't work too hard Eric while we're on the Mighty Mississippi 
Chris-- check your e-mail ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 1:56am
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Warm him up for me Marty and send him south!
Have a fun, safe trip to bayou country. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:03am
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Gary, I was a little worried about the axle because the tops of the wheels seemed to be tilting in a little when the boat sits on the trailer.
My thought process was that I've come this far, have it all apart and a might as well put a new one on? Both of the guides had serious bondo towards the bottoms and have since broken after a PO cheap fix. I'll have to take them down and fix. After having this happen, I see the axle covered in paint and begin to worry. I'm going through this thing so I dont have to worry any more  ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:09am
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I hear there is some little get together for some kind of boats down south for us white legged northerners. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:17am
I hear you,thats why I want to do those changes too.My axle seems to look the same,wonder if they were made that way or it was overloaded.The PO of mine put coil overload springs on too,I'm guessing because of the worn out springs and wet foam ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:20am
like these?
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:26am
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jbear....bout to winterize this weekend. I know you don't remember what that means since moving down south...but it means i'm envious and may have to come visit in feb when we are down for work!!
Gary, I'm going to get the opinion from the shop when I take it in to get welded. If they say its alright I'll try it and see how it does. The way I understand it, the round axles can be bent to give them camber. This makes the tires bow slightly out. when the boat sits on it they are perfectly level. Square axles can't be bent. I'm sure most already know this but its fun to learn new stuff! ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:30am
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Who the heck is that? Those ARE white legs. Bet his head is white too why else would you wear a hat? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:33am
Gary, where do these bushings go? The axles I got from woody have spacers inside the ends and I didn't see the hat bushings on the old one. I'm guessing it's because they're completely shot?
http://www.easternmarine.com/Hat-Style-Leaf-Spring-Bushing - hat bushing ------------- |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:37am
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Chris...anytime. You'll like February here.
Well there are 2 guys in that picture that need no stinkin' hats and kinda look alike. No hat=big glare. Hat guy needs to visit the tan booth before coming south this year. I used to like to park the big white truck out back of the mall and visit during those cold windy afternoons...which are on the way for you. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:40am
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You know Chris I did take the boat and trailer to the spring shop after he made up the springs to see what he thought.He added another leaf to the springs but never said anything about the axle. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:45am
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Chris just be careful on the width,I don't think there is much give on fender clearance.
John,I already have have our spot at Parramore's,I'm ready! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:49am
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I gotta call...don't have a spot yet. Me and Bill came down early saturday and left Sunday morning. Might come down friday if I can get Patti to give the ok. I'd kinda like her to come along.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 2:58am
I'll take some pictures tommorow,I'm up way too late,as you can see I need my beauty rest ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 10:10am
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The PO of our Classic replaced the axle on our #2 prior to us coming to get it. It had to be custom made due to its size. It fit well and trailer very well. He got it at Red Neck Trailers in North Carolina. He charged us for parts which was $425 including new tires. ------------- |
Posted By: 65 'cuda
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 10:51am
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Put the 3500 lb round one on it, with a little pre-load bent into it, better in every way. ------------- Gary http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=941" rel="nofollow - 1965 Barracuda SS |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 11:57am
Thats one option, but the other pieces (hubs, wheels, tires) that he'll be using will still only have a capacity in the 2000-2500 lb range- so a 3500 lb axle is a bit overkill and wont actually increase his load carrying ability. As long as the axle is rated properly (the original was a 2000-2200 lb unit) then it shouldnt deflect. I put new round axles on my Skier trailers (2200 lb capacity) and they work great. I moved the original axle from my green boat onto my Tique trailer and that worked great too. No deflection, no issues. Unless you want to go to 14" tires and upsize the hubs along with the axle, it doesnt make sense to start going crazy with capacity ratings. That was my original plan but when I investigated, I found that it simply was not worth it. 14" wheels and tires will not come close to fitting under your original fenders- you would need to go with something larger. The smallest 13" trailer tires available fit by about a finger width. Like I said before, my #2 with new 2200 lb running gear has gone to GL and back twice without issue (1200 miles each way)... Im not sure how much more youre planning to stress your trailer than that, but it seems plenty capable to me. ------------- |
Posted By: 65 'cuda
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 12:17pm
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My bad, I thought the whole assembly axle/hub/wheel/fender was getting replaced. ------------- Gary http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=941" rel="nofollow - 1965 Barracuda SS |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 1:37pm
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I agree with Tim on the overkill issue. Going to see if I can track one down this evening, otherwise I may put the old one back on and see how it does. Such a relief to not have to worry about springs! ------------- |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 6:09pm
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Well guys.........I decided to go with a round 3500# axle
I took the axle and springs to the shop here in town with the intention of having the new plates welded on the old axle. The shop owner talked me out of it. He wasn't confident with the old axle and was sure the spindles are slightly bent. I agree with his reasoning, I already have the damn thing all torn apart, might as well put an axle on and do it right. He then made a good point, for another 30 bucks I can have the stronger axle, spindles and peace of mind. With the new springs, axle, hubs and wheels I will not have to worry a bit about the trailer. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 6:36pm
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For $30 I guess its not a big deal. If the old spindles were bent, then its definitely best to replace the old.
Be careful with your wheel selection now though... the larger spindles may drive you to use larger hubs, and some 12-13" wheels may not fit. Just something to keep in mind! I am a little bummed you wont be keeping the 4 lugs though! ------------- |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 7:18pm
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I talked wheels with the guys at the shop. I am going to take my hubs in tomorrow as I told him I would like to stay with the 4 bolt. He said he might be able to get me some 4 bolt hubs!
Anyone have suggestions on wheels or anything specific they've gotten recently? ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 7:24pm
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Id be surprised if you can get a 4-lug hub that fits a 3500 lb axle spindle, but who knows.
The closest I could find to the original steel wheels were the ones from Northern Tool. The bonus is that theyre cheap! They have both 4 lug and 5 lug. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_tires-wheels+high-speed-trailer-tires-wheels+13in.-high-speed-rims - Northern Tool 13" ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 11:05pm
Tim, I'm thinking your talking about width? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 11:28pm
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[QUOTE=storm34] Gary, where do these bushings go? The axles I got from woody have spacers inside the ends and I didn't see the hat bushings on the old one. I'm guessing it's because they're completely shot?
QUOTE] Here are the pictures Chris.These bushings would go in each spring eye,one on each side,but if the spring eyes already have a bushing already press in you'll be able to use them as long as the bolt size is the same This is the spring hanger on the front of the axle,you can see on each side of the spring,the "rim" of the bushing.You may have to shim the bolt on the side of the springs if the new bushings that are already in the springs are narrower. 
This next one is the rear. For sure you'll need the bushings at the top of the shackle,the ones on the trailer frame. This picture is better so you can see how they are in. If you need anymore let me know.  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-22-2010 at 12:03pm
Gary, its both height and width. The 13" GY Marathons I have on my #2's are stuffed into the fenders in every way. I get a *tiny* bit of rubbing when I hit a good sized bump, but not enough to mark up the fender or damage the tire. I suspect the wider/flatter fenders that sometimes came on the #2's would have a bit more clearance, but not this style. 
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-22-2010 at 10:37pm
Thanks for the good picture Tim.Looks like I have alot of room to put the 13's on because my fenders are mounted on the guide uprights.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 11:34am
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Yup, you would... or you could get rid of those goofy guides and move the fenders back down where they should be! Youre doing such a nice job returning the boat to original that you might as well bring the trailer back too! ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 11:45am
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The "goofy" guides are so very well made that I wonder if they were part of the optional loading equiptment. Im going to ask Art his thoughts next time I see him. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 11:54am
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I've seen those guides on a few trailers and wondered what their purpose is and if they scratch the hull. If you line the boat up fairly straight and drive it on the trailer, it centers itself. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 11:59am
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Ha, you know Im just poking fun, Gary.
Ive never seen a set of guides exactly like yours installed on a CC trailer- though there are enough out there with something like them that I dont doubt their usefulness... it can sometimes be a pain to get my Skier centered on its #2. Id be willing to bet that the optional loading package would have included the rear guides and the taller front crash pad. Neither of my #2's have either of those features. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 12:04pm
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Our Mustang trailer has the guides and the taller crash pad. I like the lower one like you have better, and while the guides make loading easier, they take up a lot of room in the garage.
We found out last week when pulling the Mustang out on a steep ramp due to low water, that even if the boat comes out crooked, it is so light that 2 people can move it with ease in all directions on the trailer. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 12:14pm
I dont mind the lower crash pad- the only beef I have with it is that I cant see it while loading... I need to have the person pulling me out let me know how close I am. Im not sure if the guides would help or not, but if Im alone in the boat and dont move my weight to the center, its very easy to end up off the right bunk. There may be nothing you can do about that. Im sure they help center the boat quite a bit- I have to walk side to side and check my clearance to the fenders before pulling out to make sure I dont end up on top of one. They may take up some room in the garage, but theyre easy to remove too (2 bolts/side)... Ive considered adding some to mine. If I trailered more, Id probably have done it by now. As far as getting perfectly centered goes, Ive never had a problem rocking any of my boats from side to side once theyre on the trailer... assuming its done right after pulling out while the bunks are still wet! ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 12:23pm
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With ours, side to side you can just lift it up an move it, and its easy to push forward. Those are the advantages of a 170ci six, no foam and a spartan interior. Must be why Dave hit 32 gps with no one in the back seat at Northwood Lake. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 12:30pm
"Optional loading equipment"? Sounds like a rationalization for non original equipment!!
Tim, Maybe we should give Gary a break on this one? He's getting up there in age and may need the extra help for loading the boat!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 12:43pm
That's the beauty of it Pete, a phone call from a dealer could have got about anything anybody wanted. My trailer has the optional winch mount, now used as a place to set a beverage can while waxing the boat. Gary's very well could be original.
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 2:55pm
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In the '73 brochure under trailer options it has trailer loading equiptment listed as an option on all trailers,but does not say what they are, you trouble makers
I can't wait to see that boat in person someday Bruce. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 3:38pm
Gary, I hope to have it a GL one of these years. There's a nice mahogany colored Mustang in the Diaries that has your same option. If Correct Craft owners ever start entering their boats in big numbers in the ACBS shows, the shows will come to a halt while those guys have endless pow wows about what's right and what's not. It may be fun to get everyone to show up some time just to see it happen.  ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 6:53pm
You mean this one Bruce?
Notice they mount differently than Gary's (they dont come close to attaching to the fenders) and are galvanized... Id be willing to bet its an Overton's type add-on. Like I said, Ive never seen another exactly like Gary's, so theres not much indicating that it was a factory option. I think the large number of trailers with the tall stops and guides would be a more likely candidate for the "Loading Equipment" option... and would explain the 2 different set ups. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-23-2010 at 11:34pm
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Those do look after market and not nearly as nice as Gary's. Original or not, I'd be afraid they'd marr the gel coat. I wonder who bought that red boat?. It looks pretty decent. ------------- |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-28-2010 at 4:00pm
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OK Guys, Suggestions and more details on this thread now. Going to start on the #2 here shortly.
Guide Poles ? Side Hull Boards ? Bow Stop- the 2 posts or the bump board down low ? Something I'm thinking about doing that some of you might not like--- Extending the bunks-channels out to the end of the boat, then a prop guard from there. And since the boat is Champangne- a Pink trailer  JJ
I'm all ears and eyes guys! ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-28-2010 at 4:12pm
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I like the small (low) bow stop... it wont mark up (or damage) the rub rail and you can get the cover on easier. The only downside is that the driver of the boat cant see it while loading- you need some input from a helper to figure out how far you are from it.
No(!) on the side hull boards (sorry Gary!). They may be functional but theyre non-original and usually dont look very good. I think the guide poles would help center you... I get by just fine without them but I dont trailer all that often. If I did, Id probably add them. Trying to get them to look original is the trick. I wouldnt bother extending the bunks and adding a guard... while I dont trailer often, I do have some hairy turns, dips and hills between the ramp and my driveway. The prop really does not sit close enough to the ground to make me worry. Never had an issue with my #2's or #4, none of which have the guards. The '90 trailer scrapes the guard, but probably wouldnt damage the prop if it werent there! And I know youre kidding, but keep it the original white. ------------- |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-28-2010 at 4:15pm
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Marty, how is the condition of the running gear (wheels, bearings, hubs, springs and axle)?
As for the guide poles, I can measure mine and get you dimensions. I'm not one for the bump boards as they don't give you much access to wax, clean etc. Nothing wrong with the guide poles and they give that classic inboard trailer look. Pink trailer?!?! ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-28-2010 at 4:47pm
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I like the low bow stop also rather than the Cajun bumpers. The guide poles definately make loading easier, but I like the looks without them better and they take up more space in the garage. Nothing like a white trailer. Marty, my trailers sit up plenty high. I wouldn't extend the bunks, but you can move the boat front and back quite a bit. Our Classic sits completey on a #2, while our Mustang hangs off by about 18". ------------- |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-28-2010 at 5:01pm
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The good BoatDr., put all road worthy galvanized wheels, tires, hubs, bearings, bearing buddies on for the trip home.
The tires are the 4.80 x 12 -just like the 6 new ones I got for the trailer that the Skylark is sitting on now. ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-28-2010 at 5:05pm
galvanized...must be for a little bling ------------- |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 1:44am
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If all can- post pics of your #2's-----trailers not poopie ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 2:00am
Just for that Tim I'm going to drag it down to the river run to show Art, then we'll see
Marty as I type this, Im drawing up the measurements. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 2:03am
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 3:11am
No offence Bruce, but that picture scares me.It looks like your Classic could fall off at any minute. And I know about boats falling off trailers! I assume you don't travel far like that?
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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 3:19am
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Dang gary, you got that rig all cleaned up, huh? ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 3:28am
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I knew you'd like that tow vehicle Chris,thanks. That was last year with the old windshield ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 9:51am
Gary, the front bumper had been removed so we could install the rub rail. The boat sits too far up on the trailer, so the tongue is pretty heavy, but it tows great. We towed it back from NC and took it to NY last year. It tows really well, but I'd like to move it back maybe a 6" to a foot as it rocks a bit on the bunks.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 11:52am
Here are a few pics I have of my #2's. The one under my Inca Gold Skier is pretty close to all-original. The other one still needs a little updating.
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Posted By: Salty
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 1:11pm
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Not trying to hijack the thread - but since we are on the subject of CC trailers, I am looking for recommendations on colors for my trailer.
The three choices I am considering are: White - period correct but will show any little rust coming through down the road. Black with refective white pinstriping - Love what Doug did to his 92 recently! Yellow with black pinstriping - clear coat to shine it up. Bold but may look good considering my color scheme on the boat.  ------------- Salty 2018 GS22 with Z4 2008 Ski Nautique 206 w/Factory Tower, EX343 SOLD 1978 Southwind 18 w/GM305, upgraded 4 barrel intake & carb, all original - vinyl & carpet, etc. [URL=http://s328.photobucket.com |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 3:37pm
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Dave, we changed our 88's trailer from blue to black and were very happy with the end result. My opinion is that it features the boat more than a white trailer. It wasn't original but I was concerned with being able to match the blue colors together to make it look right. Yellow would also be a pretty tough match unless you re-painted your stripe on the boat.
I vote black 
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 3:49pm
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Black actually would have been a factory option for the mid-late 80's trailers, Chris- so I cant fault you for your choice! It would also be period correct for Dave's trailer (since it is a mid-late 80's vintage too). It wouldnt be period correct for his boat, (all trailers were white during the 70's), but I think it would look good either way.
Yellow is a great choice as well and would look pretty slick... but getting it professionally matched is a must. ------------- |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 7:21pm
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Great pics so far guys!
So, those are the only clearance lights, on the fenders??!! Size? Do I have to go with round taillights? At least round LED'S? So, I guess, I'm going to have to at least get it bunked before I know where my bow-stop goes? Man, this is going to be hair-pulling for me. Anyone wanta buy a #2 ? ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 8:01pm
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Marty, Do you have a bow stop or are you going to be frabicating one? ------------- |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 8:08pm
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No bow stop, no poles, guides, or winch. Got a short v-shaped one from a friend that I'm thinking about using. Will post pics later.
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Posted By: Salty
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 8:23pm
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Storm 34 - I tend to agree with you ... your black trailer looks nice and it lets the eyes focus more on the boat. I believe I am leaning towards Gloss black.
Yellow would be cool but it would scream "look at me - I'm a bright yellow trailer!!!" Anybody know what type of Black paint to use that is UV tolerant? I don't want it to fade after a couple of months in the sun. Dave ------------- Salty 2018 GS22 with Z4 2008 Ski Nautique 206 w/Factory Tower, EX343 SOLD 1978 Southwind 18 w/GM305, upgraded 4 barrel intake & carb, all original - vinyl & carpet, etc. [URL=http://s328.photobucket.com |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 8:23pm
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I'd go with the white of course!!
If the trailer is dissembled, sandblasted and primed with a decent primer, it shouldn't show any rust for 25 years. I suggest one of the industrial two component zinc primers. Many equal galvanizing in salt spray tests. The worst coating you can put on is powder. Go wet!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: October-29-2010 at 9:39pm
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I'm out of the loop on classic CC trailers but am working on restoring my 1984 sportsman trailer.
I won't junk up the #2 thread with my stuff but thought I might ask what yall think of my poles and paint as they might be aplicable to a #2. I'll try to get pics of the new poles up this weekend (They are in the shop). I just had new guide pole fabricated by a local chassis shop. They are an exact match of my originals but these are out of stronger .120 wall DOM chassis tubing. The ugly part was the chassis tube cost $5 per ft. But at $165 for the pair of new stronger poles I'm ok with it. It took 5 shops not being able to do it and then a 75 mile round trip to get the right stuff. Mandrel bent 1.5" .120 wall DOM I'm eyeing a paint by Sherwin Williams called Sher Kem. It is an equipment / industrial coating. I've used on a few car trailers and I also used it on my boat engine and trans with great results. My local SW store says that new paint environmental laws are changing the paint / coating business and the Sher Kem might not make the cut. I'm picking up a gallon of Raven Black tomorrow. The Raven black color is a close match to my original paint dark dark blue, basically black with a little blue sheen. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-30-2010 at 12:52pm
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Hey guys, Bunks, the boards. Just a 2 x 4 cut in half, or do we have a bevel somewhere? Halfway or the length of the board? ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-30-2010 at 1:11pm
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Marty, I just cut some for our Classic trailer. I used the clearest 2x4x12 PT boards I could find. I ripped them down to 3" and put a 3/4" 45 degree bevel on them. I think the original bunks were slightly narrower than 3", maybe about 2.75". ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-30-2010 at 1:17pm
Marty, the bunks looked like this from the factory. I would recommend rounding the top corner so there isnt a pressure point there.
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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-30-2010 at 1:27pm
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Great info guys. Just trying to remember it all now, as the printer runs out of ink!
I might try to give a few of you a phone call later on,or at least the ones i have #'s for. Also Gary Blackburn, I think I need your e-mail. Either I never had it or can't find it. ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-30-2010 at 1:30pm
Marty,here is a pic of the original boards on mine
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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-30-2010 at 1:57pm
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