Re gelling question
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Topic: Re gelling question
Posted By: Gary S
Subject: Re gelling question
Date Posted: September-10-2011 at 9:01pm
I posted this before but only got one responce,I guess everyone was off for the holidays. I'm in the process of regelling my console so the color matches my deck. These parts were repainted over the original gellcoat at one time, but by using the correct paint remover it's all off now and sanded. When I did the glove box lid I used regular remover and it attacked the original gell but has now sanded out very well.I'm also in the process of filling the gauge holes in the dash piece having tapered the holes and planning to fill with matt. My main question is does any one think that I need to remove any of the original gellcoat? It is in great shape and has scuffed up very well. I have ordered a gell gun but hasn't showed up yet,and some Duratec%20Clear%20Hi-Gloss%20Additive,%20Quart%20%28904-001%29 - Dura Tec Clear hi gloss additive .
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-10-2011 at 9:10pm
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Gary, I can't answer your question about spraying gel over gel, but am wondering if the console has been painted. The two I've seen appear painted, same as the 2 back seats I've got from mustangs. ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-10-2011 at 9:17pm
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Yes Bruce this one was painted over the gell also, it wasn't even taken apart when it was done so it was even easier to tell when it was taken apart.You can even see it in the second picture and in the third one it's removed ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-10-2011 at 9:26pm
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Gary,
The Dura Tec link is bad!! Of course you've never gotten quoting correct ether!!   Any gel in an "open mold" must have wax in it. Polyester gel needs to be sealed off (no oxygen) to cure.------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: September-10-2011 at 9:41pm
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Gary, No, I would not remove the rest of the gel.
Scuff w/80 gt. And you could save yourself alot of extra work by masking the gauge holes from the front and glassing them in from the backside. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-10-2011 at 11:05pm
http://www.duratec1.com/dp07.html - Here's a new link that will work,I forgot to check the 1st one before posting  The gell coat I already have Pete,it's the stuff from MiniCraft that I had matched with the wax already in it.
Whats wrong with my quotes Pete? The only thing I thought I have trouble with is picture size,I have not been able to find the automatic sizing on photobucket. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: September-11-2011 at 2:32am
tough crowd on here... john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Gary S wrote:Posted By: mountaineerminer
Date Posted: September-11-2011 at 3:16am
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Gary,
What is the correct paint stripper to use that does not remove the original gel? Do you know what it was painted with? |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-11-2011 at 8:52am
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-12-2011 at 1:42am
I have no idea what paint was used originally when they painted it but I just used some paint remover from a big box store.Got some of this from West Marine,it seemed to work faster and did no damage.  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-19-2011 at 11:23pm
Well I tried my hand at gel coating today and for my 1st try it didn't come out too bad.It will need some hand sanding but I'll know more after it dries. I didn't get to use the Duratec high gloss additive because it says not to inhibit the cure by adding wax surfacing agents and my gel already had it added.I might just try it on something not important just to see what happens.
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 2:08am
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Looks great!
Is that the gun I've read about here that's recomended for gel? Pardon me being lazy...who has that? Minicraft? Thanks ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 2:29am
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I was actually looking on ebay Greg for a gun.Found this guy on there and then found his web site.Gun was cheaper on his site than on the bay due to no fees. http://stores.infinityfrp.com/-strse-421/G860-2.5-HVLP--dsh-/Detail.bok - Here's the link ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 11:51am
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Wow, that looks great, Gary. That orange peel should sand out pretty easily... much nicer than my brush job!
I assume you catalyze the gel before loading it? Then just shoot what you want and clean it up before it kicks? What kind of compressor are you using with it? ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 12:00pm
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Gary,
Looks great. Yes, now comes the hard part with sanding out the orange peel and buffing!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 2:27pm
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Thanks again Gary. I'm also interested in the compressor you used. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 12:37am
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Greg I have a great compressor but I would not buy one again.It's a Sears oilless 6hp 60 gallon.15 cfm @ 40lbs and 11.5 @ 90 The problem is it's direct drive high rpm and loud.It does everything I ask even runs my blast cabinet.But with an attached garage I have to be careful if you know what I mean ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 1:05am
Why doesn't it surprise me that Sears is yet another one to BS on the HP!! It's NOT 6 hp. running - that's peak or locked rotor!!! Sorry Gary but the compressor HP BS is on top of my list!!
As a reference, A true 5 HP compressor develops around 17 CFM at 175 PSI. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: kelly mac 67
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 4:03pm
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for what it is worth i found a company that gel coats and finishes if anyone is intrested ------------- Kelly Mac |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 6:28pm
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kelly mac - we are only interested if they do a good job at a reasonable price-- actually some would be interested if they do a good job at an unreasonable price-- good work is hard to find
This project is looking good.. I didnt see the original post first time it came up but in general the only reason for removing all the gelcote before respraying is to avoid having a very thick (relatively) total cross section of gel. The down side to that would be that as it is not glass filled it is more likely to crack if it gets too thick. In this case because of the part and it's use I wouldnt have worried about it either. But for general knowledge if it was on the hull or deck best case is down to the glass before Gel.. which is very painful.. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 7:02pm
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BTW, Gary I am very very interested in hearing how it comes out with the additive even if it won’t be the definitive test ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-23-2011 at 12:30am
Kelly, As Joe requested, fill us in!1  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-23-2011 at 1:46am
Sorry I missed your post Tim. You are correct on the catayzing.I was worried that it would kick before I got a chance to clean but it being cool here now I think helped.I also tried brushing to see how it looked before the gun arrived.This method is easier and it will help when I get more pratice.Not many parts to the gun,it cleans up easily. I started sanding tonight and I'm happy with my first attempt.I have what looks like a couple of fish eyes in the glove box cover and a couple of thin spots in the old gauge panel,I'll do some more sanding and shoot another coat.I also tried mixing up a small batch of gel coat with the Duratec additive,it's mixed 50/50,and it set up so I'm going to use that too. Here's a couple of pictures. 
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-23-2011 at 1:57am
Yea I know Pete but my Dad bought it for me and you don't look a gift horse in the mouth.When it's time is up,I'll look at a Champion or a Quincy I guess. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: kelly mac 67
Date Posted: September-23-2011 at 2:18pm
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