86' Fish Nautique (gettin' put to work)
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Topic: 86' Fish Nautique (gettin' put to work)
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Subject: 86' Fish Nautique (gettin' put to work)
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 2:09am
Well, it's official, as of 1-4-2014 I became the proud owner of this 1986 23' Fish Nautique. We're in the process of getting her back on her feet. She's been out of the water for about a year. The boat is powered by a 1980's? Crusader 350 5.7 V8. Our plains are to do as minimal as possible to make it safe to run for about 2 years. After that time I'll do a boat and motor overhaul if needed (hopefully not before). I run a small fish/dive charter op and also fish commercially. We out grew our last boat and felt that this one better suited our needs. I've got a good solid 2-3 months to whip this boat into shape before my busiest time of year. I'll post pics and updates as we go along, and look forward to any helpful advise. I don't have any pics from the outside yet but I'll get em' up on here.      
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Posted By: dwcar
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 10:28am
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Welcome to the site Rick and congrats on your new boat! ------------- 83Ski |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 12:36pm
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It appears to be in pretty good shape. Any soft spots in the floor (stringers)? Is the engine running? Is this the one that was on ebay? I am guessing it won't take too much effort to make her a good solid runner for a couple of years. Good Luck! ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 1:52pm
Don't think so Steve, that one was being sold in MD if I remember correctly and this one has FL regs on it. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
skutsch wrote:Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 3:04pm
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The one on eBay went for 5200 which was not too bad a price.You would need a trailer and possible motor though. Maybe it will turn up here too. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Smithfamily
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 7:06pm
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Welcome aboard Rick, and good luck with the new adventure. Where are you located? ------------- Js |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 8:07pm
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Hay guys, thanks for the warm welcomes.... skutsch, Deck is pretty solid.. some hatches need stiffining but might wait till we see what else rears its ugly head first..lol.. Yes, the engine runs... It actually starts right up very well despite being carbureted. bhectus, yeah, this one was on Craigs list for 9500 and we ended up getting it boat motor and trailer for 4250.... Smithfamily, I'm located down in SW FL. Town called Englewood.. It's almost smack dab in the middle of Tampa and Ft Myers... |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 8:17pm
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Congrats on your new boat and welcome to the site. ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 9:23pm
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 9:51pm
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Looks like you have a good start on her,and looks pretty good. At 9k it would be hard to put more into it but with what you paid you can do so and still be under that figure easily. Keep the pictures coming please this will be interesting thread ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 11:52pm
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Looks like a solid start for sure! Definitely has a whole lot of wires in the engine bay! ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-08-2014 at 12:40am
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-08-2014 at 1:49am
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Rick keep in mind there are only a few resin manufacturers out there and I'm pretty sure West isn't one of them. Look up US Composits,they are down your way,good products,good prices and no paying extra for the hype. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: January-08-2014 at 1:47pm
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You have to find somewhere online to decode Chevy block casting numbers. Not a bad deal congrats! From the looks of the motor she's been in the salt quite a bit. Maybe set up a closed loop system when you overhaul it? ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-08-2014 at 2:29pm
A closed loop system would not prevent what happened to that one Zach  a bilge pump and a wash down regulary would have been a start------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: January-08-2014 at 3:24pm
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Ha yea, I am thinking for the sake of longevity as a working engine that (I assume) won't be pulled out of the water every evening therefore cannot be properly flushed between uses. ------------- |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-08-2014 at 9:29pm
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Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-08-2014 at 9:40pm
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What size and pitch prop are people running on a 23 Fish with a 350? I have a 14X11 on there. Seems kinda small but there is only like 2-2.5" of clearance so. |
Posted By: mark c
Date Posted: January-09-2014 at 9:19am
| A 3970010 block is an April of 69 to 1979 small block Chevy block was used for everything from a 307 ci to 400 ci engine and could be either 2 bolt or 4 bolt main bearing cap blocks. If it was originally an automotive block the engine assembly code is on the tab in front of the right side head just above where the water pump attaches to the block. |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: January-09-2014 at 10:26am
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The color on that transmission looks like it might have had a Waukesha in it when it was new. ------------- |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-13-2014 at 3:54am
| Well, we sure have accomplished a lot over the weekend... All new wiring, new manifolds, new risers, bilge pumps and hoses, oil sending unit, thermostat, switches, and gauges. Whew..... Worked 4 days in a row on it. Just thought I'd post an update... I'll have pics up here soon! |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-17-2014 at 3:05am
New Gauges, New Switches.. Installed. New Exhaust, Risers, Bilge Pump.  All new wiring.  Ready for her test run...  Sittin purdy..  SO.... we found the reason he didn't have a thermostat in the motor when we bought it.. and why the motor smoked so much... and why he didn't want to put it in the water for us to sea trial it... . He had the hose from the check valve that supply's the raw water for cooling into the water pump reversed.. Instead of going into the inlet of the pump he had it going into the outlet...lol.. Testing it on a hose you would have a hard time seeing this as the pressure from the hose sends it threw and out the exhaust. Was an easy fix and solved tons of things we were scratching our heads about! We ran the boat for about 1.5 hrs got her up to around 22-24mph, cruised nicely at 2600rpm. Now, the next step for us is moving all the safety gear and electronics over from the other boat. I'll continue to keep putting pics and status updates up in case anyone has any cool ideas on configurations an such... |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-17-2014 at 8:19am
Orange oil filter!   ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: January-17-2014 at 9:28am
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Wow, the boat has come a long way in such a short time! Congrats and job well done. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: January-17-2014 at 9:32am
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Glad to hear you have it on the water! Neat project, I really enjoy seeing projects on the larger CC hulls. I'll be curious what results you get with that prop, agree it seems like you'd want more pitch but don't have a clue what was run on those boats. Any comments on how it handles chop, handling when running with the swells? ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-17-2014 at 10:04am
| 14x11 sounds about right for a small block powered 23' vee hull. My buddy's 20' Shamrock with a 302 had trouble pulling a 13x10.5 Acme. Im surprised that the big block wasnt the powerplant of choice for such a large boat. |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: January-17-2014 at 10:44am
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Nice job on that wiring dude. You didn't crack that bad boy wide open??? That motor seems to be in pretty good health given the compression numbers. ------------- |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-30-2014 at 1:08am
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Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-30-2014 at 1:24am
Really love how these boats sit in the water too! 
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Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-03-2014 at 8:57am
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Hey Mob i just read through your post, good buy! nice boats. I currently own a 78 fish. I love and hate it. they are a little different but pretty much same animal from the 78-86. the 14-11 is the factory prop, i dont however know if the 350 is factory. I was under the assumption these boats came with the ford powerplants. But my knowledge of the fish grows slowly greater each day( they are tough to find out info on) as you will come to find out. any info i have found i will gladly share. Also please let me know how the west system holds up to cracking, I have many cracks to fill in mine. so one thing i notice is you do NOT have trim tabs. when my trim tabs were not working on my fish i just assumed not go out in it. I actually had a failure and had to hose clamp them down to allow myself to run faster than headway on a trip once.( i was overloaded) you say you got only 23-24knots, was that with full tank and passengers? I would bet with a set of tabs you would easily gain a few knots. My fish has the 70Gal tank right on the stern rather than under floor, so the weight distribution in yours is going to be a little better. |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-03-2014 at 9:04am
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another note, I know people recommend gel coat over paint most days. i usually urge against it when awlgrip is an option. I detail boats for half a dozen commercial/pleasure boats that see a lot of use. and to be specific two of them are 37 Duffy hulls. both came out of the mold within a year of each other and both fish together probably 80% of the time so very similar use. except one has awlgrip(dark blue) and one is gel coat (also dark blue) 9 years later(today) the awlgrip boat looks brand new when i am done with it and the hull with gel coat doesn't change much. also under the cleat where we hang fish the gel coat has completely rubbed through to white base rendering it unfixable without a big job. The same spot in the awlgrip gets a quick wetsand compound and polish and you never know. when it comes time I will be using awlgrip 100% |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: February-13-2014 at 12:59am
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Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-13-2014 at 4:01am
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you will find that the slightest adjustment of the trim tabs (if it were equipped) will change that spray a lot. After spending half a season with and half a season without mine I wouldn't think twice about dropping the dough on them considering a kit is relatively cheap and live a long life.. I have also noticed the faster i cruise the dryer i am in most chop. I am planning a re-power and re-prop for this season to get a few knots for those choppier days. Good to hear the west sys holding up, I have done a lot of work with west system and have never been let down by it. during my re-power I will be coating my bilge with the west and mixing in their graphite additive. I have done it in the past in fish holds and other places that get oily and stinky, and for some reason mold will not grow on it with that additive. makes it a pleasure to clean. |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: February-17-2016 at 3:08pm
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Well,... It's been a long time since I've posted anything on here but I thought I'd update what I've done. Here is a pic of the new engine we built and put in..  another view  installed leaning post and livewell.  Had The bottom painted.  Love the lines.  new 4 blade prop  New Fresh Water Engine install. Marine Power 350 Vortec heads, Roller cams, bored .20 over   I'm considering installing trim tabs, not sure as of yet because I plain on putting this boat up for sale in a few months. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: February-17-2016 at 5:01pm
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Thanks for the update Rick. How come you are doing the repower and other work and then selling it? Nice to see the fresh water cooling, whether for you or for the next guy! ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-17-2016 at 5:17pm
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agreed, thats a lot of work to turn around and sell it. if you go trim tabs the bennets are pretty bulletproof. My first season with my fish they didn't work but if i had realize how easy they actually were to troubleshoot I would have done it. As nice as a chrome valve cover looks. They always seem to leak no matter what gaskets you use. What prop specs did you go with? what led you to the 4 blade? ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: February-17-2016 at 5:21pm
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Tony, dual ram on the tabs with that size boat? Or single OK? I was wondering about the prop as well, thought a 3 blade might be more suited to the use of that boat. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-18-2016 at 3:02am
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single has been fine for me. i dont see a need for dual setup unless your breaking nautique speed records with the thing. Bennet make a hydraulic tab which has become an industry standard over the years. The systems are not overly expensive in the grand scheme of things in the boat world, but myself, i wouldn't hesitate to buy used parts because like i said they are pretty simple and durable. They also have a new"ish" electric tab called the bolt system. I have only had experience with the hydraulic units. The 3 vs 4 blade discussion has been discussed all too many times, lol. I will certainly be interested to know the numbers given from the 4 blade and what pitch, dia. and cup it has vs known 3 blades in this boat. I think the 4 blade has potentially a lot to gain in this type of boat if pitched correctly for the boat and HP. ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: February-18-2016 at 10:34pm
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Well, I bought another project boat and will eventually need more funds to do the work to it. That is the main reason I have decided to sell her. I will always love the lines of the Fish Nautique. There are a lot of boats out there, but not a lot as pleasing to the eye.... The hard thing to compare with the 2 props that I also changed motors at the same time..... The first motor was a 1978 block sbc 350 that put out an estimated 260-270 hp. At that time I was running a 14X11 RH prop. The main problem I had at that time was when I had a heavy load the prop would slip and mpg would really suffer. I now have a updated 350 sbc with vortec heads, roller lifters, ect This engine is supposed to be puting out aprox. 300+ hp... The new prop is a 4 blade 13X13 LH as this motor is regular rotation now. So when compairing #'s you have to keep that in mind. Here's the #' s ( full tank of fuel) empty boat Old motor 3 blade 14x11: 2800RPM 19mph 1.7mpg 3000RPM 22mph 1.9mpg 3200RPM 24mph 2.25mpg New Motor 4 blade 13X13 2800RPM 21mph 2 mpg 3000RPM 24.mph 2.2mpg 3200RPM 26.5mph 2.4mpg The thing I've noticed that I like so far with the new prop is that even with a full tank and a fairly decent load of people on the boat 4 + myself (1000lbs) the numbers don't change with the 4 blade like they did with the 3 blade. you could knock off 2 mph and .25-.5 mpg with that load running my old 3 blade. I guess One way to compare apples to apples now would be to put the ol' 3 blade back on and run it with this motor and record the #'s.... I think my current #'s would be a bit better with tabs for sure. unfortunately I think I would have to install small ones due to the exhaust placement.  Since I know everyone on here likes pics I thought I post a few of my new project boat I'll be starting. It's not a CC but I was looking for something in the 26-30' range. I'm planing on putting a 315hp. 6BTA Cummins Diesel in it. Gunna cost me some $$... It's a 28' Pacemaker on paper but total length is 29'10" with an 11' beam.    
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Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 2:18am
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Nice, what kind of hull is that? ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 10:07am
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Tony, I think its what they call the sportfisherman..... not sure tho. It is a Pacemaker, but hard to find info on it. |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 10:16am
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cool, that should be a good project. It looks like the keel was layed up after the fact, wasn't originally offered with that big of a keel I am guessing. Whats she got for power? ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 11:13am
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I think manifold vacuum numbers with those stats, as well as WOT rpm would help tell the full prop/motor combination story. Too bad its got to go, its been in good hands. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 12:06pm
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what RPM are you getting at WOT? ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 12:17pm
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That Pacemaker looks like it will be a great all weather boat. 11' beam is a lot of cockpit room! Obviously the 4 blade was a solid improvement, the numbers tell the story. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: 1980SkiNautique
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 2:28pm
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Let us know if you have a build thread for the 6BT Pacemaker, as I would love to watch the project! ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique 351ci Commander |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 3:53pm
It is def an improvement, but. I have a sneaky suspicion that boat can perform much better than that with the fresh 300hp 350. I'm running a 13x11.5 3 blade on my fish now and pulling about 28mph @3200. Thats with the 260ish HP 351. I get about 22mph at 2800. That hull is capable of much more if propped correctly, I have heard of guys running upper 30's with similar HP as your 350 Those velvet drives are capable of running either direction if you ever wanted to run a RH wheel vs a LH. ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 4:28pm
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Tony, good to see you have a foot throttle in the FIsh! On the props, I think Rick said the 4 blade is new. I wonder if either Rick or Tony's 3 blades were ever re-worked, they may not be what they were when new. Hard to know what the best prop for the application is without having a few on hand to try and compare, though I wonder what Acme would recommend if they had all the details on the boat and power. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-19-2016 at 4:44pm
Correct but keep in mind it needs to match the rotation of the engine. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-20-2016 at 10:58am
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that video is with an unworked acme 524 ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: February-22-2016 at 5:02pm
| My 4 blade is cupped also.. i ran the boat yesterday with a half tank of fuel and at 3400 I was doing 28-29mph. At WOT I was 33mph at 4000rpm with half tank of fuel (40gal) Tabs would probably help me see the largest improvement.. Part of the reason I went to a 4 blade and went down in size was because with a full boat (6 people plus myself and a full tank of fuel 80gal) I could not reach 4000rpm with the old 14x11. I would estimate the total weight at well over 2000lbs, especially with cooler, ice and tackle....BTW Awesome vid Tony.... I have a borg Warner Valvet 1:1 and yes its easy to change the rotation of the pump, but it must match the rotation of the engine. you cannot make a RH motor spin that trans LH ect. It makes it easier to swap out transmissions as they are not RH or LH only.. I also found it hard to find RH props for an 1-1/8' shaft. This is due the the fact that a RH is considered a counter rotation motor, which means you would have a LH and a RH. There are not to many small shaft small boats out there with twin screw that run a 14x11. 11" pitch is a small amount of pitch for a twin. So finding a used RH was a bit tricky.. The new boat project will be on hold until both my other boats are sold. I keep thinking if I put tabs on my Fish it ill make me procrastinate on selling it... lol... |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-22-2016 at 7:02pm
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ok, thanks for clearing that up. I have swapped the pumps to match engine rotation before but I always thought they could be reversed by just swapping linkage too. The ZF gear we have in our duffy can be run in both directions. for example our cummins is std rotation and without removing the gear we can put either a LH or RH wheel on and simply run it in whatever direction we need. The trim tabs are a good selling point, especially when doing sea trial. time and money invested vs return might be hard to justify though. but what isnt on a boat? haha ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: February-22-2016 at 7:16pm
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So Rick, was the WOT 33 mph at 4,000 with a full complement of people and gear? You say half tank of fuel but not sure what your load was otherwise. One of the brochures lists a Fish at 3,800 lbs., then add your 2,000 lbs. of fuel, people, and gear and you are at almost 6,000 lbs. That's a pretty hefty load for a 300 HP small block. Not that it's not up to the task, and can do it efficiently, but I'd guess your results are pretty solid considering. A few more rpm at WOT might help. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Smithfamily
Date Posted: February-22-2016 at 8:37pm
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[QUOTE=MOBCHARTERS] Well,... It's been a long time since I've posted anything on here but I thought I'd update what I've done. Here is a pic of the new engine we built and put in.. another view installed leaning post and livewell. Had The bottom painted. Love the lines. new 4 blade prop New Fresh Water Engine install. Marine Power 350 Vortec heads, Roller cams, bored .20 over I'm considering installing trim tabs, not sure as of yet because I plain on putting this boat up for sale in a few months.[/QUOTE WOW!!! ------------- Js |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: February-22-2016 at 9:33pm
| Tony, Those ZF's have quite the reputation... I'm looking at putting a 1.64/1 ZF in my new boat with the Cummins. I'm still doing some research on them tho. Skier, that WOT 4000rpm and 33mph was 1/2 full fuel tank just me on the boat. That est. of (2000lbs) is just passengers, myself, and fuel. If you add a 25 gal live well (200lbs), tools, spare parts ect. (50lbs), cooler w/ ice (100lbs), rods, reels, tackle (50lbs) and boat (3800lbs) you hit a total of (6200lbs)... That is with me and 6 people @188lbs /ea.... That is a pretty steep bill for a single 300hp 350 sbc... I can tell you this... when I get a group of 6 that could all be football players I shiver and cringe... lol but, a family group of 2-3 adults and 3 kids... omg what a difference.... 3 adults @150lbs and 3 kids around 100ea. puts me right around 1600lbs instead of the 2000! ,.... and that 400lbs is a huge difference. Unfortunately its hard to explain that to folks on the phone.. I try to be gentle but honest... |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-22-2016 at 9:38pm
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Another thing on the ZF's to check out is I think you can put a trolling valve on them too. Might come in handy for you. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: February-22-2016 at 9:54pm
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Yes, that SBC is feeling a bit flogged I would think! I've toyed with the idea, future project (and not likely, but I can dream), of putting a Peninsular 6.5 diesel in one of the larger CC's. I almost bought a running takeout engine with 2:1 transmission just to hold for the future, didn't pull the trigger. HP ratings can be mid 200's to I think a bit over 300, but torque numbers well over 400 lb.-ft. Not sure what the performance would be compared to the gas engine but economy would be great and I doubt it would care nearly as much what the load was. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: February-22-2016 at 11:31pm
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ours is equipped with trolling valve. we swing a 34" wheel so its almost necessary, that thing moves some water when its kicked into gear. My only complaint is i personally don't care much for the fly by wire throttle controls. it takes some getting used to going from reverse to N to Forward and the other way around. there is no feedback so if your not paying attention you could easily forget and be half into the throttle by the time it kicks in. We run the thing with the trolling valve on for days on end when canyon fishing and its always worked. all it is is a controlled "slip" ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: February-23-2016 at 3:15pm
| Interesting thread - enjoyed the posts. I'm in the middle of a total refit of an 85/86 Fish Nautique, hope to splash it around Easter. It is powered with a reman 351 (.030 over), GT-40 heads, Carb, and DUI. Drive is a new PCM 80A - 1.23:1. Replaced the shaft with a shorter ARE shaft and re-propped with a 3 blade 14X 13 w/# 3 cup. Boat has 12" Bennett tabs. We've also added an additional fuel cell (16 gal) in the floor compartment closest to the console. That will give us a little over 100 gals when full.. Note that the position of the engine and shaft log has changed from original due to the PCM reduction drive. Performance numbers and pics will be shared when done. |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: February-25-2016 at 11:56am
| MountainMan, Those reduction drive transmissions are the way to go. Thats why we see them in those 28-30' boats powered with twin 350's. It's the only way to push them. I know what you mean with changing the shaft log position as there is just enough room as it is for a 1:1 gear in there... I have thought about doing that, but its more work than I want to get into at this point. I could probably move the engine foward a few inches as that would be almost easier... lol it would also have to come up higher to keep the same angle. which would not be that bad of an idea considering how low these motors sit in these boats... I swear there is only an inch between the oil pan and the bottom of the bilge... Thanks for the post tho, and I'll be interested to see how the # work out when your done..keep us posted! |
Posted By: jblocal
Date Posted: February-26-2016 at 11:38pm
| Nice work! I have an 87 fish also thats getting a decent overhaul right now also. Hopefully have it in the water this weekend. |
Posted By: MOBCHARTERS
Date Posted: January-07-2017 at 1:18pm
Well, My new boat is in the water... She is officially up for sale. Way to many features to list but here are some of the big ones. Motor is a 2015 freshwater cooled Marine Power 350 small block bored .20 over with vortec heads and Holly carb (300hp) aprox 200hrs. Vhf is ICOM 504. 2 GPS (Lowrance HDS 8 Gen2 and HDS 5) They are networked together with side scan and down scan. 3 bilge pumps on 3 float switches one 2000 rule and 2x 1100's. All new wiring, switches,and lighting as of 2013. Onboard battery charger. (A good one $300) and a year old 4D AGM battery ($600). You can leave everything on for a few days and be fine. Lol.. There are 2 live well pumps (1100 gph) and one 20 gal livewell. 12 rocket launcher rod holders just on the t-top 4 on leaning post. One large fish box built into the deck foward. Large 5' wide 3 step custom aluminum dive ladder that can easily come off with pins for the swim platform on the stern. This boat is used currently for charters and is set up for fishing in the gulf. I've put over 10k into her in the last 3 years. We are doing a fresh paint job right now and will be putting a fresh coat of bottom paint on her this week as well. Was a gray/blue now is green. Running a 4 blade prop and have a spare 3 blade. 80 gal fuel tank, and with 2 people full tank will cruise 22 mph at 32-3400 rpm and burn 1.75-2 mpg. Serious offers only.. no trades.. Sea-trial if you show me $$$.... $15,000 or best offer. More photos by request these are just what's on my phone atm. Boat is in the water if you want to come take a look. Also comes on a Double axle trailer. Call or Txt (941)525-8155    
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Posted By: jman161
Date Posted: January-07-2017 at 2:10pm
| WOW MOB!!! Awesome Restoration! |
Posted By: Tracey174
Date Posted: October-17-2019 at 12:59am
| I bought this boat, seriously thinking that I'm going to put a diesel in it. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: October-17-2019 at 1:09am
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Is the 350 still running well? Curious why you want to repower. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Tracey174
Date Posted: October-20-2019 at 3:05am
| No, unfortunately when i bought it the motor and transmission had been removed. I basically bought hull and electronics. So since doing a complete engine anyway thought that a diesel might be cool. Maybe 150-200 hp range. I could build a 350 for it easy enough but i want to stand out. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-20-2019 at 8:41am
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Tracey, What diesels are you thinking about? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Tracey174
Date Posted: October-21-2019 at 12:57pm
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