1988 Ski Nautique 2001 Rescue!
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Category: Repairs and Maintenance
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Printed Date: May-03-2024 at 1:59pm
Topic: 1988 Ski Nautique 2001 Rescue!
Posted By: erickirchey
Subject: 1988 Ski Nautique 2001 Rescue!
Date Posted: May-05-2014 at 8:29pm
Hey guys I am working on my buddy's old 88 ski nautique trying to get her ready for the lake for summer the transmission went out on it two years ago I told him i would help get it going no labor just parts as long as i got a seat on the boat or free reigns to use it so he agreed! anyways we got the transmission out of the boat today and cracked her open found a few things that made me wonder if the needed to be replaced On the drive gear assembly there is some pitting in the gears is this normal or does this need to be replaced?  also on on the oil pump there is wear and looks like the metal is wearing grooves does this also need to be replaced?  I have a lot of picture I am just trying to find a re-sizing software so i can upload them directly as of now i have to re-size each on manually so be patient I plan on posting all my steps and pictures along the way just for fun! Thank you for any tips or help in advance this is my first run at this but I am fairly confident I can get the job done as I am very detailed and have been reading forum and manual after manual just to prepare! |
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-05-2014 at 10:09pm
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Eric, I'm sorry to say you may not get much help with the details for a Velvet rebuild here on CCfan. There have been members try to do a rebuild and only a couple have been successful. We even have several threads where so called "pro re builders" have tried and failed. Most have had theirs rebuild by Fantastic Finish Marine. Eric the original owner is a member and used to be very active on site. He has since passed the business onto his "right hand man" and as I understand is as good at the rebuilds as he was. They are not as simple as just throwing a kit in. There are plenty of idiosyncrasies. From the looks of the pictures, it sure looks like there's plenty of wear. What do the clutch plates look like? I'm sure pretty bad!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: baitkiller
Date Posted: May-05-2014 at 10:15pm
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I am one of the few who has been successful and I wouldn't fix that one. Yes, that is exceptional wear. Mine was sitting out in a yard half full of water and didn't look that bad. From your pics the oil pump is shot and the planetary is also shot. Pony up those parts against the 700$ swap deal and I seen no sense in going any further. A milk crate makes an excellent shipping crate. ------------- Jesus was a bare-footer............. |
Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: May-06-2014 at 12:12am
| I had a pump that looked liked that a while back. The flywheel dampener( I think that is the term??) was bad and apparently was putting pressure where it was not supposed to be. Cleaned it up and and put in a rebuild kit and luckily it worked. That was 20 years ago and to my knowledge it is still working. But I agree with the others.....crate it. |
Posted By: erickirchey
Date Posted: May-06-2014 at 10:36pm
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SO I took your guys advice I found a guy in tarpon springs with a rebuilt one his dad was going to use for a project boat but could never get the engine right had paper work from the local marina on the rebuild fluid looked great so i bought it and i couldn't argue with his price of 300$! I ordered the new damper plate it should arrive Thursday or Friday from these guys http://bpi.ebasicpower.com/p/ALTDA-106A/ Today I got a new igniton switch put in the starter and found new bolts for it went up and got two new belts from advance discount if you need the cross reference for the belts or the part numbers here ya go! Alternator #R066001 crosses to Goodyear # 15406 & Sierra # 18-15400. water pump #R066008 crosses to Goodyear # 15461 & Sierra # 18-15455. Also just to verify this is for a 88 ski nautique 2001. |
Posted By: erickirchey
Date Posted: May-06-2014 at 11:06pm
Here are some basic pics of the boat  
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Posted By: erickirchey
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 12:02am
So I am still waiting on parts so i figured i would tackle the floor while waiting we talked it over and we didn't want to go with the carpet instead lets make it look like a dock using pressure treated 2x6 and some good stain sealer and trim it with Manila Rope here is my progress so far.    
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 12:18am
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Oh boy! You were going on the right track with the tranny, but that floor ain't good! Did you check stringer condition or sings of rot? Are you going to leave the floor like that or plan to add carpet over it? Its your boat and you can do what ever you like but that a different approach to all rebuilts we've seen around! Get ready for some action... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: erickirchey
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 12:33am
| Not planing on putting carpet back down on the boat the supports are all solid and no cracks in any of the fiberglass we could walk in the boat no sagging issues it was stored under the dock on a lift with a cover most of the time. The plywood that was there was very rotten and need to be pulled as you can tell so i see no difference in using 2x6 over top instead of 3/4 plywood also this way the water seemed to run off better to the middle of the haul. |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 9:22am
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Better check your local building codes, the spacing on those floor joists looks a little wide. ------------- |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 9:39am
Good job on the tranny swap. You definitely made the right decision there, but I'm afraid of what's to come with that flooring you chose.  ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 10:42am
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WTF???? You do whatever you want but I question the reasoning. So did you just remove the carpet and lay this over the glass floor? The way you have it now you've provided no access to the bilge area behind the tranny. You can't access the shaft packing gland or the rudder packing or the exhaust if you ever need to without completely removing the floor again. Is that concrete block by the gas tank? ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 11:21am
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That's going to trap a lot of water. Not good. ------------- |
Posted By: erickirchey
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 11:49am
| No it is all raised up off the glass and this is laid in place but there will be hinges for access to the spots that will need to be maintained such as rudder packing exhaust etc. |
Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 11:57am
I'm confused about what plywood you are talking about already being in the boat that had to be removed, but then you mention how solid the floor is. Except for the removable cover aft of the engine, there shouldn't have been any plywood on the floor. It was glass over foam. 2x6 PT sure seems heavy. ------------- Craig 67 SN 73 SN http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6103" rel="nofollow - 99 Sport 85SN |
erickirchey wrote:Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 11:58am
LOL Alan... I also don't see concrete piers or metal hangers. Besides not being able to access the shaft and exhaust, you're also going to have a hard time fitting the observer's seat back in because the floor is now 1 1/2" taller. It's going to throw everything off as far as seating goes. If the plywood was rotten, why didn't you just replace that 3'x3' piece? ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: halfnelly
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 12:01pm
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Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 12:19pm
Holy Crap, I think I just peed my pants a little  ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: halfnelly
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 12:30pm
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Sorry, I couldn't resist. Is this going to be a temporary solution to get it on the water for the summer or a permanent "fix"? |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 1:25pm
nop, my guess those are the plastic rotocast bases for the rear seat!  ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 2:11pm
| I'd put down a rubber membrane under the decking and run the boards stern to bow, like plank floors on most boats. |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 2:51pm
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Insane in the membrane. ------------- |
Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 3:48pm
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5 quarter deck boards would have been plenty. Even for the trans shipping crate. What's the plan for the wake board tower? Can't wait to see it! ------------- - waterdog - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3896&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - 78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 4:01pm
You bunch of nay sayers,if it was up to you guy's the Paragon's would have never been built  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: cphase
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 4:03pm
 ------------- Thanks, Jeff http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6549" rel="nofollow - 82 SN http://www.archlinux.org" rel="nofollow - Arch Linux |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 4:13pm
I was thinking the same thing. I guess we have different definitions of "rescue". |
Posted By: cphase
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 4:16pm
Maybe this hybrid? ------------- Thanks, Jeff http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6549" rel="nofollow - 82 SN http://www.archlinux.org" rel="nofollow - Arch Linux |
Posted By: halfnelly
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 4:17pm
| CPhase, that is hilarious. Is that the optional TCT (Termite Control Tower)? Looks like it hasn't managed to attract any females. |
Posted By: cphase
Date Posted: May-08-2014 at 4:26pm
I don't know why, plenty of "wood" there. ------------- Thanks, Jeff http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6549" rel="nofollow - 82 SN http://www.archlinux.org" rel="nofollow - Arch Linux |
Posted By: forvicjr
Date Posted: May-09-2014 at 12:20pm
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Wheres Pete??? Thats definitely not original. Wonder if he has installed some dock foam under the decking for flotation? You know some here make bars from ski nautiques, maybe we misunderstood and hes building a nautique dock? ------------- “Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes.” ― Harry S. Truman |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: May-09-2014 at 12:53pm
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Wish I could photoshop a Millwaukee Vacuum in those photos so he can be in Pete's good graces
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Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: May-09-2014 at 6:30pm
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I think we scared him away with the comments. Here's the deal, you're right to come to this website for help and suggestions on your rebuild. These are the most knowledgeable people on the planet as far as these boats and engines go. There have been 100's of rebuilds done on these boats and we've seen some very strange ways of doing it. If you want it to last and look right, there are some basic ideas that you should follow. The reaction to your floor was because we've never seen one quite like that before, and there are so many problems we see related to that. You said that your rear plywood access panel was falling apart. That, along with the mildew on the upholstery, the water on the engine cover, and the look of the bare floor, indicate that it isn't exactly dry under that canopy. I doubt there are many of us on this site that think you have dry foam. That means your stringers and subfloor structure may be compromised. We're glad to help you here, but such an odd "solution" is going to get this kind of reaction. ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |