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Printed Date: April-29-2024 at 3:33am


Topic: my Timmy T
Posted By: flyweed
Subject: my Timmy T
Date Posted: August-02-2016 at 1:28am
Got my Timmy T made today. I could NOT however find a hose valve fitting with a male end on the capped end...so I have a valve that has the female hose end attachment, and then the male end of the hose will screw into it. I just bought a male plug to screw into it, rather than a screw on cap.



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Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride!



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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-02-2016 at 10:00am
You have it right, female side of the valve goes out. The end of a normal garden hose will be male. Plug is optional, I normally don't bother- closing the valve is sufficient. Looks good!


Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: August-02-2016 at 11:38am
cool. So my water strainer sits down low towards the bilge, and then the water hose runs UP from the strainer to the engine. so should I install my "T" after the water strainer, up at the highest point before entering the engine??



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'93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower
Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride!


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-02-2016 at 12:13pm
Highest point should be most accessible and also help prime the rwp... So yes, that's where I'd put it.


Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: August-02-2016 at 12:16pm
If that valve came from China I would install a cap on the hose end when its not being used. Hate to overheat an engine because a cheap valve failed. Personally, I wouldn't install something like this in line with my cooling system.


Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: August-02-2016 at 12:19pm
Yes! san the plug
Certain NPT pipe and Garden hose are the same thread type

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Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: August-02-2016 at 12:33pm
desertskier.....it's very hard to see in the photo, but there is a PLUG screwed into the hose connection end of the valve...so YES, it will have the valve closed AND a plug inserted in the hose end, when not in use.



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'93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower
Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride!


Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: August-02-2016 at 12:38pm
Funny. Pretty hard to see on that countertop. But I still wouldn't install it. I can count the times on one hand that I have run my boat on the hose in the last 20 years. Unless you have done some engine work there is really no reason to run your boat on the hose.


Posted By: Russman
Date Posted: July-20-2017 at 10:27am
With a 45-60 minute trip to get to the closest lake, I fire up the motor before leaving as part of my pre departure checklist so I know that the day at the lake will go well.

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Posted By: nhhandyman
Date Posted: April-24-2018 at 12:21pm
Is that 1" fittings?
It will save me a trip home (and onto the boat) to verify.
Thanks


Posted By: WinterTurtle
Date Posted: April-24-2018 at 3:38pm
I have a 79' 351 which is 1" and I believe every discussion I've seen on here calls that out as well.

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Not Running - All Potential!


Posted By: WinterTurtle
Date Posted: April-24-2018 at 3:43pm
I also spent a while Sunday shopping for parts for my setup -- The best place I found to get the dual barb + 3/4" NPTF was Amazon -- it's Spears part number 1402-131 at $5.64 for prime.

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1979 Southwind 18 351w

Not Running - All Potential!


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-24-2018 at 3:45pm
Home Depot usually carries the 1” tee for ~$2.

Whether you need a 1” vs 1.25” depends on the marinization and the engine size. Pcm Fords used 1” but Pcm chevies used 1.25” and many other fords did as well. Not enough info provided to answer your question.


Posted By: nhhandyman
Date Posted: April-24-2018 at 3:50pm
Thanks everyone - I'll head to the boat ('97 SN) before buying anything.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-24-2018 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by WinterTurtle WinterTurtle wrote:

I also spent a while Sunday shopping for parts for my setup -- The best place I found to get the dual barb + 3/4" NPTF was Amazon -- it's Spears part number 1402-131 at $5.64 for prime.

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Home Depot usually carries the 1” tee for ~$2..

Grayson,
I see there's a HD in Summerfield and two HD's in Greensboro. You will find the tee where the irrigation/sprinkler fittings are.

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Posted By: WinterTurtle
Date Posted: April-26-2018 at 11:10am
I've failed at finding it in HD's website is seems

The one I ordered from Amazon had already shipped / couldn't cancel but I had hoped to post a link to the part they carry for the next guy.

Between spec'ing an oil pressure sender and trying to find 3" exhaust hose locally I am realizing that boat parts are much more difficult to manage than automotive.

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-26-2018 at 11:30am
I have 3 HD's within 6 miles of the house,I have never found the T at any one of them. Ace is the only place that had them.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-26-2018 at 11:42am
All the ones near me hide those tees over by the black pipe. Lowes carry them too (sorry Pete).


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-26-2018 at 11:43am
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

I have 3 HD's within 6 miles of the house,

The north or south house?

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-26-2018 at 11:53am
North. Down here the closest is 25 miles but I don't speak the language,the other is 50 miles further down which is a really nice one but that's a major trip.

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Posted By: WinterTurtle
Date Posted: April-26-2018 at 12:15pm
When Pete said they're irrigation fittings I got a lot more results that were close -- makes sense as I can't think of any other conventional volume demand.
In the Home Despot inventory it looked like the 1/2 and 3/4 versions were in stock but I didn't even find an entry for the PCM special.

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Not Running - All Potential!


Posted By: nhhandyman
Date Posted: April-26-2018 at 12:21pm
I have never had any luck with Home Depot's online 'store'.
Finding it around the lawn irrigation products makes more sense because in normal plumbing situation you're not using black plastic hoses.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-26-2018 at 1:01pm
The HD search on the web site can be frustrating. I even struggle with it at work sometimes. I find it about equal to the CCfan search!    With any search, different key words result in different results. I just went on HD's site and couldn't find the tee or for that matter any barb irrigation hose fittings but I know the Rhinelander store carries 100's of them. I punch in tomorrow and will make a point of looking. Also, every store doesn't carry the same inventory. I feel the other problem is many of these web sites are being created by IT types that don't know what they are looking at!!

EDIT: I just went to Ace's web site and came up with zero there too!!!

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-26-2018 at 1:48pm
Not all Ace's have them either Pete,just certain ones,the ones where people work with their hands. I got them in the McHenry store,I would guess that the Round Lake one would have them too.
The HD corrugated pond pump hose is the same as the bilge pump hose in my '95 too,at a more realistic price.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-27-2018 at 7:18pm
As promised, I did some shopping today in the plumbing dept. before it got too crazy with customers.

Here are the "Timmy Tee" components available at the HD. If your local store doesn't stock them, all are available on line at the HD website.

The actual tee is SKU: 1002-245-987 This is 1" barb x 1/2" FPT



Here's the garden hose adaptor. SKU: 0000-865-599 It's 1/2" MPT x 3/4" FGHT



Finally the hose valve. SKU: 0000-442-559 3/4" MGHT x 3/4" FGHT swivel



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Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: April-27-2018 at 11:03pm
I put mine on last year. Local Lowes had all parts in stock. Really nice to have.
I test mine before the trip to the lake also. When we go many times the boat is loaded with all our camping gear and the last thing I want is an engine that won't start while the boat is so loaded I can't open the engine cover. Tim it is a nice addition that works very well. If there is a downside, none of us has found it yet!
I added the Female fitting that allows quick coupling with my hose fitting and I have a brass plug to fill that hole when not in use.
I think this is the deluxe version, maybe $20. in total parts!
Thanks again for your invention. Build a couple kits and sell them under the Timmy T brand name.

Mark

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Posted By: nhhandyman
Date Posted: April-30-2018 at 8:39pm
In the picture the t is placed Upstream of the strainer unit. Wouldn't it be better to be on the other side of the strainer?

I realize there is not much room there between the elbow coming off the strainer and the inlet to the hull. Perhaps getting at it when it was in that location would be impossible without taking the dog house off


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-30-2018 at 8:49pm
Before/after the strainer doesn’t matter


Posted By: gt40KS
Date Posted: April-30-2018 at 9:28pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Before/after the strainer doesn’t matter


Yep, especially if you're connected to a household water hose - presumably, if it's clean enough to drink it should be clean enough to run through your engine.
The strainer is there to filter out particles that can come from the pick-up, presumably not so clean.   

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-30-2018 at 9:43pm
Originally posted by gt40KS gt40KS wrote:

   if it's clean enough to drink it should be clean enough to run through your engine.
The strainer is there to filter out particles that can come from the pick-up, presumably not so clean.   

Joe,
Here's Brian's water he gets in Me/N.H.:



I'd run it through the strainer too!!

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Posted By: gt40KS
Date Posted: April-30-2018 at 10:12pm
YUK, Pete ... Wow.   I'd get bottled water.
Having said that, the strainers we use don't filter down to the micron level anyway - a .07" particle will pass right through. I'd say all that Yuk is headed through the engine one way or another.
But yes, I am doing all new plumbing, flushing T and a new strainer after I get the engine in and I will be installing the T before the strainer... just because

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Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: April-30-2018 at 10:53pm
That's why I put this on my shower.



And I go with the simple bucket



Posted By: nhhandyman
Date Posted: May-01-2018 at 12:15pm
Thanks for all the replies - I'll post a pic next time I get to the boat.
I also went for the 1"x3/4"x1" Tee - not the 1x1/2x1 listed above.


Posted By: WinterTurtle
Date Posted: May-01-2018 at 1:46pm
Does the tee need to be installed between the rwp and the trans heat exchanger - or between the inlet and the heat exchanger? I don't have a strainer (yet)...

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Posted By: nhhandyman
Date Posted: May-07-2018 at 9:13am
Here is mine - installed yesterday - will be trying it out at some point this week.



And yes, I will be getting a plug just in case that ball valve chooses to open up...


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-07-2018 at 9:48am
No plug necessary.

You’re going to have a hard time priming the pump with that location.


Posted By: nhhandyman
Date Posted: May-07-2018 at 10:00am
priming the pump....

why... because the water will be heading out the inlet before getting sucked in?



Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-07-2018 at 11:52am
Give it a try Brian. I have mine in the same place seems to work fine. Except for the first startup of the year there is always enough water in the hose between the strainer and the pump to prime anyway.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-07-2018 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Except for the first startup of the year there is always enough water in the hose between the strainer and the pump to prime anyway.

Correct, only an issue if the pump isn’t already primed.



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