Detached Garage
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Printed Date: April-28-2024 at 11:57am
Topic: Detached Garage
Posted By: Swatkinz
Subject: Detached Garage
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 10:21am
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Hey Fellas, I've been kicking around the idea of a detached garage for the last 18 months or so. Recall my earlier detached garage ROI questions thread. \ My current attached garage setup is sort of doable, but far from ideal for easy, regular boat storage and retrieval. Because I've been getting a lot more serious about it, I figured it's a good, slow time of year to show some sketches and photos and get feedback. I've been looking regularly for the right boat but haven't found it yet so I'm able to commit more time to the storage needs of the boat when I do find it. Hence this thread and discussion My primary purpose is to use this structure as boat storage, as a general purpose light project space, cooking space, escape from the women space, watch a game space, etc. The exterior is being finished to match my home per the neighborhood requirements. The interior will be unfinished at least for now, but possibly forever. With regards to size, I want the flexibility to store a 206, Sport, Sport 200, or if I hit the lottery, a GS20. With an Interior that is 26.5' deep x 18.5wide, I think I can accommodate any of those boats or similar sized boats. Would anyone disagree? I'm using a 16'W x 8'H garage door. Interior ceiling height will be 9'6". Originally, I wanted to go with a taller door, but that will be cost prohibitive and I believe won't look good with the current garage door symmetry so I'll be folding a tower each and every time. First world problem, right? I'd like to have the space so that the platform can remain on and the tongue can be extended if desired, but would more than likely remove the platform and fold in longer layup storage periods. Foundation will be a monolithic concrete slab 4" thick. I'm going to rough in for a toilet and sink drain and that'll get done as time and money permit. Planning to sub out the work myself. Will probably do most of the electrical and plumbing myself. Thinking I can build this 20x28 garage for $25K-$35Kish. Considerations? Thoughts?     ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 10:40am
| I'd swap the location of the window and man door... keep the man door towards the front and you can tuck the boat in closer to the wall (door would open forward of the fender). If there's ever any chance of storing a 2nd vehicle in there, making the garage a few feet wider (move man door to front) would make a lot more room to move around inside. |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 10:44am
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Good points, Tim. See the overhead image of my lot below and it'll probably be obvious why the man door is on that side. The plan is to install a toilet in the back corner nearest the pool. Thought about making it wider, but that gets really tight to the house as I have a 20' side setback that I have to consider. No plans to store another vehicle in there. Regarding the depth, width, height I'm working with, would you agree that I should be able to store any of the models mentioned in that space?  ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 10:49am
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Save a few bucks and only brick the front, match the rest to the siding used on the front of the house at the 2nd floor. Would go at least 24 on the width if you can. Not sure how you plan to rough in plumbing, if you are trenching in power consider doing the waste and water at the same time. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 10:57am
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Quinner, I thought about the brick on the front only, but the neighborhood frowns on that. I also thought about widening, but it gets tight to the house really quick. Yes, to your suggestion about sharing the trench space with plumbing and electrical. That was my plan. ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 10:57am
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quinner wrote:Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 11:41am
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You say a taller door is cost prohibitive. Did you quote at a few places? Modular doors can be customized for less money than in the past. I'm just thinking from my own experience, there are a bunch of times when I'm dropping my boat off quick after a trip to the river because I have to pick up kids or something like that. Having to drop that Tower each and every time might get old, would be worth it to me to spend the bucks up front on the taller door. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 11:59am
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David, from what I've been told, the only way to go taller on the door is to make the walls taller (makes sense to me). So it's the additional cost of the door but moreso seems to be the other structural modifications to accommodate that height. I was also told that to ensure that a typical tower height could be accommodated, a 10' door is really what would be needed. If I'm wrong on this, please advise as I'd rather have to not fold a tower. Also, my wife is keeping me on my toes with regards to aesthetics. The taller door and building drawing looked goofy when in the periphery of the shorter attached garage door. ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 12:03pm
I too am curious about the cost. Most likely you would only be adding one more section of door and the extra track. Regarding the width, I too would go wider. How much room did you leave between the proposed garage and the house? 10 feet is all you would need to get some heavy equipment into the back yard. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 12:09pm
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I'll have 9' between the DG and the house with the current 20x28 dimension. ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 12:32pm
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Nice. I love garage builds. I'm not sure how it is in your area but if I wanted to build a garage I could not put it on simply a 4 inch slab. I would still have to dig down 4 feet and pour a foundation. Your going to find the concrete to be the largest money of the project. It sometimes cost a little more but I always prefer the concrete guy to float out a smooth finish rather than using a epoxy. This is especially nice if you use for working in there. Exterior finishes will eat up a lot of the $$ too. Cedar shake$, brick$  Keep it simple, things like using trusses, and the zip system over using std ply and tyvek can be time and $$ saving. Just a few things to add to the list of things to consider. You may be at the top of your budget for fully finished project I feel. But I am basing off new England prices which are always higher it seems. ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 12:39pm
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Although the garage would start getting a bit tall, going to a higher door would be a huge bonus! As an example, folding the tower on my 206 is easily a 5-10 minute job, remove cover up the windshield minimum, remove bimini and boot it, fold tower. If no bimini then it's really not that big a deal and even easier on the sport 200 towers. W/Bimini doing that every in/out will get old real fast. Why the cedar shake at the gable, is that detail on the home somewhere? Like the look of a different detail there however if this is the only place it occurs you may want to reconsider that and just use lap siding there. Would lose the soffit/shingle detail or reduce it to the first 24" similar to the front elevation of the house @ brick and lose it all together at the rear elevation. Use a horizontal trim board in lieu. Definitely move the man door towards the front on the same side. Whatever the sideyard setback is slam garage tight enough to get to the 24' width, typically those setbacks are a total for both sides with a minimum for either. Regarding the HOA, frowning is one thing, cannot is another, that masonry all around will cost some $$$, if you have no preference do masonry front only. Do you plan to stick build or truss the roof? Makes a big difference in you ability to utilize the storage space, with the roof pitch you have the second floor would be very usable as a loft space if stick built. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 1:36pm
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I too would go wider... even though it cuts your space between the house and the garage. Really, if you put your boat inside (8' +-) and have 3 ft of man door swing on one side, you won't have much room to do anything else. Opening the doors of a car while your boat is in the garage won't happen in the remaining 7.5 ft. Working on something while your boat is in the garage becomes near impossible if you don't have the elbow room. Another suggestion, The toilet room area is likely going to be 4-5' deep, and 5' wide if you have a sink in there, that is going to chew into your parking space pretty quickly. can you draw in the bathroom? definitely go with the storage box in the trusses, it makes a huge difference. A couple of things I wish for in my garage, or would do again if I built another garage: - radiant heat in the floors - no explosion hazard if you are painting, and allows you to maintain a freeze protected environment - sink for hand washing - 100A sub panel for compressor/welder - recessed lighting |
Posted By: oldcuda
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 2:25pm
| I have a 20 ft wide garage and it not wide enough. Going 24' is money well spent. Extra height is a big plus too. If it were me I would be build as big as the law (and neighbors ) allows. |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 3:46pm
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You can buy attic trusses too, so no wasted space. ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 3:53pm
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Someone needs to chime in with tower overall height, I don't have one so have no idea. No question that adding height to the whole structure adds quite a bit, from framing through exterior finishes. When I first posted I hadn't noticed that the 8' door went nearly to the top of the wall already. Steve, I'm really good at spending other peoples money! But, you hear the general theme from all of us, bigger is better, bigger is more convenient, bigger is more capable and useful. On your budget, I echo Tony's comment, up here I doubt I could put that structure up for $50,000. We'd need frost walls and 6" slab. One more comment, and this one is overkill but useful - if in the construction you can frame up a lifting point somewhere you'd find over time it would come in useful. Harder to do on a free span 20' or 24' building. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 4:08pm
| We built a 24'x28' garage about 14 years ago. It seemed plenty big at the time, but in hindsight I wish I went bigger as we've outgrown it. I'd go as big as you can and cheap out on siding and finishes. You can always upgrade those later. If 24' is going to get you 5' from the house, that is pretty close especially if there are windows on that side of the house, but we easily get 2 modern 8' wide ski boats in our garage with a classic Correct Craft in the middle bow first, and still have a lot of room for ski equipment and other stuff. 24' wide is a good minimum width. |
Posted By: fgroce
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 5:53pm
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Hi I like workshops. I built mine 50 x 32 deep. If you want to be able to put a work bench on the end wall and be able to walk between the table and the boat give yourself room. If you are too close will have to be careful not to bump into the back wall or work bench. Enjoy the shop. I to, am real good at spending other people's money. ------------- FGroce 88 Ski Nautique For 28 years Now 2002 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Got Tiques
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 7:56pm
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Lots of comments to consider, but make the man door an "out-swing" door and it will allow egress without infringinging on your space. Almost no extra cost. Just my 2 cents! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4811" rel="nofollow - '78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: January-27-2017 at 9:22pm
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Quite a few homes down under on smaller blocks have a front and rear garage door so vehicle access to backyard is through garage. Then you could go a lot wider ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: January-28-2017 at 9:59am
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All good stuff guys. I really appreciate all of the comments. ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: dochockey
Date Posted: January-28-2017 at 12:49pm
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It's too bad the pool wasn't on the other side, As far as the Brick goes it doesn't have to go all the way up, go smaller windows and have the brick go up to the bottom of the windows then siding the rest of the way. For the floor insulate it and run pex tubing now you can hook up heat later on. As far as the bathroom goes you could do a bump out . ------------- 1989 Teal Ski Nautique 1967 Mustang Harris Float Sunfish |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-28-2017 at 1:37pm
Never thought I'd own more than one boat either!...... You gotta have at least two...every needs a spare boat! ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 11:36am
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Steve, What's your min. setback for a detached garage? I ask since I would kick the proposed garage parallel to the lot line on it's left, make it deeper moving the rear towards or even next to the pool and then go as wide as you can. (re grade excavation needed) Yes on the kick out bath - double door it so it could be used from the garage or the pool. A comment was made about the cedar shakes on the gable ends being expensive. They do make fake shake siding in vinyl that's a reasonable cost. We sell it at the HD! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: bb12
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 12:04pm
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I'd go with Hardie fiber cement shake shingles on the gable ends. They look great and you won't have to worry about maintenance. https://www.jameshardie.com/Products/HardieShingle-Siding" rel="nofollow - Hardie Shake Shingles ------------- 1989 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 12:33pm
You had better read the reviews!!! Lot's of problems with the Hardie siding products. I just had a customer in the HD the other day with issues Busting at the holes and falling off! https://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/jameshardie-siding.html" rel="nofollow - Read all about the complaints and problem I wouldn't use the stuff on a dog house!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: PLBC
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 12:41pm
Pete, original post says 20'. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5164&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 99 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 2:02pm
Kurt, Thanks, I missed the set back but, I still feel Steve can get more room in the garage by moving it back and parallel to the lot line.. He'd have to lay it out if he wants. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: PLBC
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 3:19pm
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Agree. Get to the setback and as large as possible. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5164&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 99 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 4:19pm
Steve, Confirm the setback. In some areas, the setback for a detached garage is 1/2 the setback of the house. As an example, this is true at my old location in Illinois as well as up here in Wisconsin. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 4:45pm
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Posted By: SWANY
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 5:13pm
X2. It's garbage and people that think its great just don't know the bad side of yet. |
Posted By: SWANY
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 5:15pm
| Looks like there is a pool house already, correct? That doesn't already have a bathroom in it? |
Posted By: bb12
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 5:15pm
Interesting... I knew there were some issues with some of the fiber cement sidings, but didn't realize Hardie was that bad. What about LP Smartside/engineered wood? Better yet, what kind of shake shingle would Pete use on a dog house?  ------------- 1989 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: dochockey
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 5:36pm
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one other option would be to get a variance move it over the few feet to get to 24' width. ------------- 1989 Teal Ski Nautique 1967 Mustang Harris Float Sunfish |
Posted By: SWANY
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 6:03pm
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Interesting... I knew there were some issues with some of the fiber cement sidings, but didn't realize Hardie was that bad. What about LP Smartside/engineered wood? Better yet, what kind of shake shingle would Pete use on a dog house? [/QUOTE] All My experience with the LP smartsiding is its just like the fiber cement, even if all joints and exposed ends are painted or treated with something per their requirements they all still absorbs moisture. I see alot these products rot much quicker than the manufacturer's expected live span. I always tell customers, wood should not be outside. Vinyl and PVC for the long haul. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 6:04pm
I wouldn't use the Smartside on a dog house ether! Would you rely on caulking and a little paint on the ends to protect OSB? Caulking should be only used as a secondary means of preventing water intrusion! Then there's the little cans of paint they send with it so the carpenter crew can paint the ends of the cut OSB. I've seen how they apply it - not enough and with an old brush that's fallen or tossed in the dirt! My general who framed up my house this summer still uses the Smartside but he's learned the hard way that multiple coats of paint are needed on the ends since he's had some problems with it that he put on several years ago. I've also heard of the problem with the water getting into it at the HD. On my dog house, I'd put real cedar lap, real cedar shingles or for the batten on board look sheet B&B board. I used the B&B on the shop build because an existing structure had it. I wanted to carry the theme. The existing was built 20 years ago without problems. The shop was built 4 years ago and no problems. The new house also ot the B&B. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 6:39pm
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Man, you guys are spending some money! Woo hoo! Cedar shakes in the gable will be vinyl same as on the house. The pool structure is more of what I'd call a cabana. It's a roof with a wall across the back, but there are no other walls or any type of enclosure. No bathroom under that roof. I agree with most all of the comments about building it bigger, but i think it's just going to need to stay the 20x28. It just gets too close to the house for our liking to make it wider plus there's the cost to consider. I'm never putting 2 boats or a boat AND a car in this garage. The space unused by the boat, will be a small space for me to piddle. The side setbacks are a firm 20' and my neighbor is going to ensure that I don't violate that policy. I'm very appreciative of the comments. I expected most to suggest making it wider, but fellas, this will be so much better than anything I've ever had for storage and piddling, I just don't see much regret in building it this way. This is probably a 10-15 year house for my family. Who knows what the next chapter will hold for boats, storage, piddling. If the worst I can say about it is that it should've been bigger, well that's not a terrible problem to have. Maybe I can build the next one bigger, but the men in my family all tell me that no matter how big it is, I'll wish it was bigger. ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 6:53pm
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Posted By: NCH20SKIER
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 6:55pm
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Steve I had a 24x28 at my old place and it worked ok (I wanted 26 x 32 but others objected) the final size worked out pretty good - I think somewhere the site there are pictures of the garage. I opted for conventional framing with an 8/12 roof pitch to permit storage upstairs. I also by-passed the micro lam beam and went with a W16 x 40 to support the second floor framing and permit the occasional hoisting from the beam. I will see if I can find the pictures of the garage and link them in. I have a set of the plans and will try to get them scanned and send to you if you like ------------- '05 206 Limited '88 BFN |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 7:18pm
Steve, You probably already know but if not, the setback is the edge of the eave and not the wall. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: January-29-2017 at 11:03pm
Steve, have you considered making the new structure into one of those micro houses, moving into it with the family, and turning the house into boat and car storage and man cave and work shop? Seems sensible to me.  You are 100% right, you'll love having a space like that! I rented an office with a storage bay in back about 2 years ago, have 2 boats side by side with enough room to walk between, still have enough length to work on stuff, stick my plow inside at times. I measured and it's 19'4" wide. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 12:47pm
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20' is quite a large setback for most municipalities, is that setback actually a covenant of the HOA ?? Are you septic & well and if so where are they ?? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 1:14pm
Dang Steve, I have looked and looked at this photo of your home and for the life of me, I can't tell where the wheels where on this doublewide trailer. The cement pond also adds a nice touch. Nice job. Donald ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 1:27pm
You aint lying, most of my life I have worked in a driveway... when I was 30 I was spoiled by sharing a 10' x 24' bay with a buddy. Ten years later and my house garage is 28x28, with 28x 18 overhead storage, rental shop is 36x50, real nice 8 x 14 shed... and I still have 7 boats stuck outside at this point... more space just sucks in more stuff. A well thought out and set up 20x28 boat storage house is a huge luxury. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 1:36pm
That's how you start out, but after a few years it looks like this if it's not big enough. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: February-07-2017 at 3:07pm
Steve, measured my tower up height, about 9'-3", 206 on Eagle dual axle trailer with 14" rims. Other brand trailers may vary slightly but probably not enough to make a 9' door work. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: February-07-2017 at 3:48pm
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Thanks Quinner ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-07-2017 at 4:55pm
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As you can see Quinner has ample space and a different watercraft for each day of the week. Thinking ahead he even has room for future acquisitions ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: NCH20SKIER
Date Posted: February-07-2017 at 5:27pm
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and the silhouette cutout of CQ looks to be spot on ------------- '05 206 Limited '88 BFN |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: February-07-2017 at 7:19pm
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is that a mopar or nova fender/headlight? and whats under the over? c6 vette? ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: February-07-2017 at 8:57pm
I was wondering what was under there as well. ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: February-08-2017 at 10:00am
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There are a couple Vettes and also a couple Shelby Mustangs, perhaps we could start a new thread of what's under the wrapper with a really big prize. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: SWANY
Date Posted: February-08-2017 at 10:09am
| Is that a Pepsi can on the workbench all the way at the back of the building? Is it full or empty? |
Posted By: lakedog55
Date Posted: February-09-2017 at 9:52pm
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Hi, Sometimes a taller door means taller walls which can add to the cost quickly. They do have low clearance tracks. The installers hate them but it does enable one to put a taller door in a shorter wall. Curious as to what is on the existing house wall . Seems easier to build three walls and make it an attached Garage. Could help resale in the future. Or maybe a portico from house to garage.. Mike GC ------------- Lakedog55 |
Posted By: 93xs2003@gmail.com
Date Posted: February-10-2017 at 9:43am
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Donald, My 'boat shed' is 25' x 40'. I was gun shy about a deed restriction limiting detached garages, hence the 'shed.' If I did it again, I would go bigger. With a couple other projects, I have learned that set back limits were made to be challenged. You just need to go through the process and play by their rules. Unless you are in a hurry, I would attempt for the variance, with the understanding that the worst case is you will need to default to the prescribed set-back. Make sure you exit this process as buddies with the building department. Risk is probably a few hundred bucks in extra fees and a few hours of your time. One thing I did do was to run pex in the slab for radiant heat. I was thinking I would eventually put a small water heater out there to keep things above freezing. After I built this 'shed' I realized that by chance it was perfectly oriented for solar. I bought used solar water panels and installed a drain-back system to heat the slab. This morning it was 17 degrees outside and 42 degrees in the shed. This comes at the cost of running a 90 watt circulation pump when the sun is shines. I realize that heating a detached garage may not be a big concern in NC, but if it were me, I would plan to install enough solar (water) on the back of that garage to cover 100% of your domestic hot water demand for your house. I would divert a small portion of this to keep the garage above freezing in the winter, and dump any excess to the pool in summer. This, and if I did it again I would install iron lengthwise and crosswise for hoists. (and if funds allow, . . I would install a lift or at least make provisions for a future lift). .. . and maybe a floor drain. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-10-2017 at 10:43am
Steve, I would question the floor drain even if allowed by local codes, Petroleum products entering a septic, French drain, sanitary and or a storm drain is not good and potentially dangerous. What I did on the house garage I just finished is install a no outlet grated sump in the middle of the garage with the slab pitched to it. It's 24 x 48 x 10 deep. It certainly will not handle washing a vehicle but will handle the snow melt off the cars. The basic intent is to keep water from running down towards and under the OH doors. Up here, the water will freeze an OH door to the slab!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Duane in Indy
Date Posted: February-10-2017 at 10:59am
Pete, I like your idea but maybe take it one step farther.. Install an RV dump valve in the pit and connect it to a downspout drain under ground. Just open the valve to drain runoff water. Kinda covert style. Duane. ------------- Keep it as original as YOU want it 1978 Mustang (modified) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-10-2017 at 12:37pm
Duane, You're always thinking but, it sure wouldn't have worked up here were the frost depth is close to 4'. With the 4' depth, that puts you back to a French drain and I've seen those freeze up I feel primarily due to the static nature of the water flow plus no bacteria to keep things ware like in a septic tank. BTW, my septic's top of the water level is set at 5' and then the drain field just over the 5'. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: February-10-2017 at 1:16pm
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Have you considered building a combo pool house and garage on the other side of the property? You could build an entertainment side facing the pool and then combine that with a much larger space for boats and cars. A tall structure with a 10 foot garage door running with a ridge line perpendicular to the main house and taking the roof line down on pool side to 7 foot would make for a nice overhang sheltered area facing the pool. You could combine the extra driveway with pavers to create a large pool deck combination as it wraps behind the house. You've got room for this over there, And there's nothing in view from the front (neighbors) so no need to waste money on brick or shake shingles. I picture something 40 x 30. |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: February-10-2017 at 1:21pm
Haha! Now I get why you wanted me to bring the measuring tape! That's our wonderful winter Nautique village there. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-10-2017 at 2:05pm
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Here is the key to the whole project- "This is probably a 10-15 year house for my family". http://www.nwqualitysheds.com/products-page/shelters-and-storage/12x28x12-rhino-shelter-barn-portable-building/" rel="nofollow - Get one of these save your money put it toward the lake house and store the boat where it belongs...on a lift or a boathouse ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: February-11-2017 at 12:38am
I thought my house was a 5-10 year home. 22 years later and one in college and another to put through college, I will be here another 10 it looks like. Time goes by fast when you are having fun. Gary, I know Steve's lovely bride. She give Steve heck for camping in a tent with his CCFan buddies. She laughs at him for it. I doubt she will go with a tent over the boat for 15 years. Steve is like me, three girls one man. Always outnumbered. Donald ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-11-2017 at 1:57am
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Tell me about it Don. I'm going on my fifth year of being unemployed already! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: February-13-2017 at 12:45am
there is life after Ma Bell my friend... john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: greggboy
Date Posted: September-09-2017 at 3:55am
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Hi, your planning is too good. ------------- Anthony J Garcia |
Posted By: funtones55
Date Posted: September-27-2017 at 7:24pm
| Has the contsruction started already? |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: September-28-2017 at 12:33am
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I believe Steve decided against the project for several reasons. His boat seems to fit well in his garage. His wife my not be as pleased about it though. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: funtones55
Date Posted: September-28-2017 at 1:40pm
| Oh I see. Thanks Donald. |