1993 SN, tubing off rear tow location
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Topic: 1993 SN, tubing off rear tow location
Posted By: jsenicka
Subject: 1993 SN, tubing off rear tow location
Date Posted: July-09-2017 at 11:58pm
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Am I ok pulling a few kids on a tube off the rear tow location on my 93 SN? Or do I risk cracking fiberglass? |
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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:06am
you said tubing... I hope you have thick skin, that could be a brutal mistake around here.  I don't think i would use the thimble on the transom for anything but a tie down spot. I believe that the Thimble is bolted through the fiberglass with a 3/8's bolt and a nut on the back side. use the pylon and you wont' be worried about cracks or tearing the thimble out. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:09am
What does the decal by the spool say  http://imgbox.com/DbR0XwmF" rel="nofollow">  [/IMG]------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:16am
| Thanks. Mine does not have the decal at all |
Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:21am
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Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:33am
Nice tube puller 
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Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:38am
| I got one boat, and a 16yo birthday boy and his friends that want to tube (wife's best friends kid). So I figure out how to do it best. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:50am
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Don't be giving him a hard time guy's,see where he's from? Pete might be mentoring them. He can't stay on top forever Maybe Jim your decal is missing or never had one. Company lawyers could have got it put on later boats too. Whatever you end up using it for keep an eye on it,the rope turning action on it seems to loosen them. Between my Dads and Father in law's massive tool collection it took me awhile to find an allen wrench that big to fit.  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 1:29am
Don't let the anti-tubers get you down. I "get it". I have 6 children and there have been many times when the water was too rough to ski / board and the kiddos wanted to play. The tube has provided many good memories. Also, I've worked with various youth organizations and group tubing excursions can provide good entertainment. In my boat, there is the "Jonny Quest Challenge". This challenge is that if you can stay on the tube for 30 seconds, I buy you all the food you can eat at the restaurant of your choice. I've never yet had to pay out. I've only had a handful of re-riders. I'm hopeful that with therapy and medication, they will make a full recovery... Some tubing tips: - No tubing while someone is skiing / boarding near by - Be very considerate of others -- as your tubing activities can destroy the water and annoy others with your boat wakes - Be hyper vigilant when operating the towboat - Try to limit your tubing to choppy water time JQ ------------- Current 2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
jsenicka wrote:Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 9:00am
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Thanks Jonny This is a group of kids who do not know how to ski, and want a day on the water. My wife will operate my pontoon as a support boat with the mom, friends and siblings of the birthday boy. I have an experienced adult with as a spotter. Since my SN is a bone stock 93, we will pull from the pylon with just spotter and I in the boat. It is a week day, so less vacation traffic on the chain. I plan to use a bay on Otter lake and play. I hear you on not destroying water for other skiers |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 9:05am
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Jim, I'm sure glad you tube on the other side of the dam! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 9:09am
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Thanks Gary Most of the decals on my 93 were removed at some point, likely to compound the boat before I bought it. 
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Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 10:23am
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Go Team Red! That is one of my favorite color schemes. I would recommend that you NOT pull from the ski pylon. Use the rear transom tow point (not the grab handle). JQ ------------- Current 2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 10:29am
JQ, Fill me in on your logic or are you saying this in jest?  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 11:00am
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I.m seeing a Pete vs. JQ showdown here. JQ behind the wheel, Pete on the tube, the rope hooked to the rear tow eye and anything goes from there. Bets on the outcome would of course be allowed and encouraged. All proceeds to the losers favorite charity since he might need it. Boat judges would be needed to settle any disputes over time on the tube etc. Maybe a collection to fly JQ to the Eagle River reunion and this could be happening soon. A historical event or maybe a hysterical event anyways |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 11:07am
| Pete, Johnny Quest is correct. A tube can put so much stress on a pylon that it could break and kill the people in the boat. Pylons are not intended for towing tubes. In my very limited experience in towing a tube, I've seen the pylon bend to the point where I stopped the boat and ended the tubing session and told the kids to hunt down their uncles if they wanted to tube. |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 11:53am
 .. Wow, never would have guessed that. Trying to pull 16 guys on trick skis yes but not tubes. Bruce, you pulling Sasquatch and a few of his friends to bend a pylon? ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:08pm
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I was pulling a skinny kid in a ordinary tube with a 1988 Malibu Skier and when the tube caught the water and dragged on the boat, the pylon would bend. Never saw that happen with the biggest, strongest slalom skiers. We had somehow gotten roped into taking this kid and after that happened it was easy to say no to tubes. There's plenty of other people in our family with more appropriate boats for that. I'm not so sure it was at all safe in Tim's '90 on that 16 trick skier event. That was about the most extreme load I've ever seen pulled, (or attempted). |
Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:19pm
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In the last 24 years I have pulled just about everything from my rear tow point. Tubes (two at a time with teenagers), skiers, wakeboards, kneeboards, jet skis, other boats and never had a problem. Our boats are built extremely well. The warning stickers are for the lawyers. And as far as the pylon breaking off that is absurd in Correct Craft maybe in a Malibu but know way in a CC. Have fun with the kids and don't worry about your boat. |
Posted By: bb12
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:49pm
Well said! ------------- 1989 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 12:54pm
Tim, Notice now that Bruce has admitted the bending pylon is on his Malibu! I admit that there's a shock loading factor when pulling a tube but the pylons in CC's are tough especially later models with the engine cradles. Our local ski club has pulled pyramids with SN's for at least the past 30 years without any pylon problems. In the early days it was common to pull 16 man pyramids. Every year they get a new SN and this year have the 200 with the 450 HP pulling 22 man pyramids!!! Isn't that a load? Try that off that little knob screwed into the glass on the aft deck!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 1:49pm
| That boat had a pretty stout pylon, but whatever you do, be careful and don't blindly trust your equipment, especially on an older boat. |
Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 1:55pm
Sweet boat!. I personally REALLY like the team red boats! Mine doesn't have the transom sticker either, so I have no Idea what it should say back there. Thus my pylon opinion. BTW, anyone who gives you crap about towing from the pylon, but uses a barefoot bar is breaking the sticker rules too. My kids tube, I have one, and I use it. The deal for them though is that they need to try another more skilled water sport first. We almost had my 10yo up on the wakeboard this weekend, but his forearms got tired after 3 attempts on ski's and 2 missed ups on the WB. Yep, he got to tube, a sweet reward for a job well done. I was proud of him for getting behind the boat and making a good attempt. the 8YO didn't brave the WB this outing, but she did try the ski's. She too went tubing. I have no problem with your philosophy on making the kids memories. that is what boats are for. (in the afternoon when the water sucks for anything else)
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Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 2:00pm
| This is Jim Bossert's old SN. To say it was meticulously maintained would be an understatement. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 3:33pm
Yes it is and I would love to see this on video. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 3:37pm
I'll see what I can do. I will say it's a struggle with only one prop in the water. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 4:46pm
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Jim, your boat looks great, that is a classic hull, I especially like the red! I've pulled tubes from my pylon, plus from my Flightpipe. I haven't pulled from my lift ring, and won't, which is different from your stern tow point on a NWZ. With the Flightpipe the stress on the pylon is handled by the bow strap when the tube is behind the boat, but you can feel and see the deflection when outside the wake. But, in my experience it's less stress than a good wakeboarder. Also, our tube is just a flat wedge shape, not much to catch in the water to create stress beyond the weight of the riders. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 8:59pm
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Thanks for all the advice folks! Had a great day. One lay down style tube, never more than two riders. Pulled on the pylon, since the rope angle was too shallow on the rear spool. Saw no issues at all. This was my first time really towing anything with this boat (I just picked it up this spring, and have had a 30 odd year hiatus from driving ski boats). What an incredible machine. |
Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 9:30pm
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The next task - teach your kids to ski! They might tube with a friend or two to have fun, but with a machine like that you should teach those kids how to ski or board. They will learn a new skill and realize how much more fun that is than a tube. Beautiful boat! Welcome to team '93! ------------- Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow |
Posted By: fgroce
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 10:06pm
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Hi I would not pull from the rear. I would pull from the pylon. I have had the lifting eye out of a 2002 Ski Nautique and there is just not much to hold it. It is designed for vertical loads only. ------------- FGroce 88 Ski Nautique For 28 years Now 2002 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 10:22pm
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Nice Team Red Boat. My lovely bride of 24 years is a Critical Care Trauma Flight Nurse. Each summer, they have to take the helicopter to pick up a victim of two on a tube or two tubes behind one boat. When the kids heads hit together at speed it is like two water melons hitting each other. Two summers ago, on Lake Norman, a doctor's 15 year old son was driving the boat pulling two tubes with his two younger brothers . The two boys on the tube hit heads. They were flying into the downtown Charlotte hospital talking to the emergency room doctor on the phone about how critical this one kid was. The doctor had no idea that his kids were on the lake that day. However, they were allowed to take the boat out alone. When they rolled the kid into the Emergency Room, the doctor noticed it was his son. Another doctor had to step in to start working on him. It made a bad scene even horribly worse. . Tubing is one thing, but two tubers greatly raises the stakes. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: July-10-2017 at 10:41pm
OPs boat (93 SN) has a rear tow point on the boat. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: July-11-2017 at 1:34am
Donald, I have a few thoughts on your comments. Back in the mid 1970's I was a high level tuber, had many endorsement offers, for example from Acme Rubber Tube Patch and FinestKind Valve Stems. So, more seriously, we used a few different tractor tubes, stem down, rope tied on and protected by some old dungaree material. I prided myself on almost never being thrown off. Ok, I'm the same as everyone else here in all points of this story, but my point is this. We were behind a 40 HP, then a 50 HP, then a 70 HP outboard. That was it. Yes, we got going fast and whipped at scary speeds but with 3 or 4 in a boat and 50 HP there's only so much you can do. On this thread we are talking about a 240 HP inboard ski boat pulling a tube. The mayhem and havoc are nearly unlimited if the driver wants it to be that way. On my boat I decided some years ago that I pull kids at modest speeds, smaller kids at low 20's, bigger at mid 20's to 30 max, whip them pretty good but don't begin to use the boat's real power. I see people cranking up 300 HP boats and if you whip someone hard starting at 36 mph you've got them exiting the tube at (I'm guessing) 50 plus mph. Lots of bad things can happen. So, I'm a wimpy tubing driver, but everyone has fun and no casualties yet beyond water up the nose. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-11-2017 at 9:46am
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I had my wife's best friend's kids out. Ages 9-17. I was doing as 63 Skier said and using very conservative power settings. The two younger ones were at 2400 RPM, which was showing me about 22mph on the speedos. The 16 year old boy got around 30mph, when he was by himself. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: July-11-2017 at 6:34pm
| omg get a pair of skis already |
Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: July-11-2017 at 7:59pm
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There must be 50 or so $150k+ wakeboats on my 18,500 acre lake all pulling multiple tubers. It's so ridiculous, these kids are big enough to learn a water sports skill (barefoot, wakeboard, ski, etc.). It would do so much for their self esteem, character development however the parents can chug a beer and pull them aimlessly on tubes without exerting themselves. Not like it used to be. My new neighbors have a nice MariStar and only pull their 11 and 7 year olds on tubes. As Donald mentioned accidents with tubes are increasing all the time. We have frequent tuber meets dock accidents resulting in deaths and critical injuries. Alcohol plus tubes = accidents. Rant over |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-11-2017 at 8:13pm
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All you need to do is Google "tubing accidents" and the shocking injuries and even deaths come up of the mindless activity. Notice I did not say "sport"! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-11-2017 at 8:27pm
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And this is precisely why most people wind up dissatisfied with forums. I appreciate the input on whether the rear thimble was mechanically sound to tow with. I did not ask if I should pull kids on a tube, or if I should instead make someone waterski, etc. I did a favor for a friend's kid on his birthday whose dad walked out on the family on his last birthday, and he wanted to go tubing. |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: July-11-2017 at 8:38pm
| Don't be dissatisfied. Your 1st response warned you what was going to happen. There's got to be some useful info in your thread. Have fun with your kids doing whatever you want to do. The good thing about Correct Crafts is they were built with those heavy duty lifting rings which are great for attaching all sorts of things to. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: July-11-2017 at 9:51pm
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Bruce, watch the pylon with a big guy rippin it up on a slalom , it will bend!! Jim, don't take it to heart, most of the regulars here would rather (or only) spend the time and effort to teach kids to ski, myself included. If tubing is the only option then so be it if done in a respectful manor. BTW, is the birthday boy's mom hot??? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: jsenicka
Date Posted: July-11-2017 at 10:18pm
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We only encountered two boats with skiers, and we promptly moved our stuff a lake away. Trust me, if I had kids of my own (I am 52 and wife is 46, and we ain't starting now), they would learn to ski. I learned behind an early 70's Nautique on Yellow Birch lake in Eagle River in the late 70's. I have too many messed up cervical disks to start in on it my self these days. And to answer the last question, no. |
Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: July-15-2017 at 9:55pm
I saw a Malibu with a BENT pylon from towing a large multi-person tube thing. My pylon is used for skiing or boarding with extended pylon. Rear tow point is for the rare occasion that I pull a tube. JQ ------------- Current 2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
Posted By: FredWSauer
Date Posted: July-31-2017 at 5:52pm
I agree with your point here. I spent the last 10 days with lots of family on a boating vacation. 9 kids from 8 years to 23 years. Tubing age appropriate speeds and always head up watching what is happening on the tubes. Generally 20 - 25 mph for the older tubers; but, always conscience of the speed of the tube on turns and throttle control to slow that down. No teenage drivers and mayhem whips! No one gets hurt and everyone always has fun. ------------- - FWS 1993 Ski Nautique 1978 Glastron T-160 1994 Weeres Pontoon - Wife's Boat |
Posted By: baitkiller
Date Posted: July-31-2017 at 9:10pm
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OK, Ill step in it. Be careful puling tubes from the rear on a tournament inboard. You have to be really light handed with the stick. My '79 has a heavy duty tow point on the transom, not stock I know cause I put it there when I deleted the lifting rings. I got talked into pulling a tube for some friends this spring and I was shocked at how easy the boat could throw that tube around. From the ski piling the tube will just follow along behind you nice and calm no matter what you do with the helm. Tie it to back of a boat that handles and accelerates like mine and it can get flat dangerous, real quick. It got my attention in a hurry. ------------- Jesus was a bare-footer............. |
Posted By: Netdewt
Date Posted: August-12-2017 at 4:08pm
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I have been towing kids in the tube this month from my extended pylon. It works well because the tube has less chance to submarine due to up-pull. The kids are so light that driver can control the ride better than when the rope is low and dragging in the water. Anything can be dangererous. Always be careful with tubes. I think they are inherently more dangerous than skis. It's a little ironic. ------------- 1989 Ski Nautique 2001, 880 hours |