1998 GT-40 and 1.23:1 For Sale
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Printed Date: April-28-2024 at 11:36pm
Topic: 1998 GT-40 and 1.23:1 For Sale
Posted By: wtrskir1964
Subject: 1998 GT-40 and 1.23:1 For Sale
Date Posted: October-18-2017 at 12:33am
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1998 Ford 351 GT-40 Multiport Fuel Injection engine for sale with 40A 1.23:1 transmission. 100 amp alternator. 1425 hours on engine,. 300 on transmission. Engine is in a 1998 Ski Nautique. Runs perfect. Asking $4500.00 for the package, or $4000.00 for the engine and $1000.00 for the transmission separately. Serious inquires, please. Thank you! Jim   
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Posted By: stepper459
Date Posted: October-19-2017 at 11:36am
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I just sent this to a friend with a tired old carbuteted engine. I did a GT-40 swap on my old Supra, it was easy and well worth the time. Mine had 1,600 hours on it when I sold it and it ran like new. Good luck with the sale, Maybe you'll hear from my friend. What are you putting in its place? |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-19-2017 at 12:18pm
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Must run real good. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-19-2017 at 12:37pm
Morgan, Did the opposite prop rotation do anything to the Supra handling? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
stepper459 wrote:Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: October-19-2017 at 12:53pm
Pete, maybe you know, but it isnt stated here what year the supra was. My 89 had the same drive train as an 89 Nautique. Left turning engine, 1.23:1 reversing transmission. I can only assume supra had the rr rotation and 1:1 before that, hence, same set up as Nautique and no handling issues. I think most of if not at least some of the other inboard ski boats have Left turning props. Not an issue, is it? Not sure I understand your question. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-19-2017 at 1:12pm
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Larry, I assumed that the Supra had a LH prop so I was curious what happened if anything with the RH. Maybe Morgan will be back and comment? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-19-2017 at 1:17pm
| I believe the 1:1 supras turned LH props. I am guessing that they did not compensate for prop rotation in the hull shape since they switched prop direction in the middle of the TS6M production run. |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 11:01am
Why are you pulling it??? |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 4:18pm
My crystal ball and a look at the Supra website tells me that Morgan had an 89 with a 1.23 to 1 transmission so he swapped a normal rotation engine for a normal rotation engine and saw no handling differences. On the other hand, one of the boats in our family is an 88 Supra Mariah that was born a lefty, died we bought it and it was reincarnated as a righty since I had a righty engine hanging around. Later after rebuilding the original engine it became a lefty again Since I figure you're fishing around for handling differences Pete, it handled different in reverse and it turned easier in one direction than the other going forward depending on which engine was in it as you would expect in both cases.  Being a big, wide boat there were no noticeable listing issues with either rotation engine. Mostly because it's not a skinny short 70's CC. The wake was slightly more symmetrical as a lefty (kinda' a subjective opinion, there wasn't much difference at all) It accelerated better and was faster as a lefty but that might have been due to an extra 50 or so HP after the rebuild By the way, Supra's started out with LH props, went to RH props for a short time with the 1.23 to 1 transmission, then back to LH props and 1 to 1 transmissions when they switched to Indmar power after a change in ownership Maybe some Supra guy from the right years will be interested |
Posted By: wtrskir1964
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 4:54pm
| Going to a GM with fly by wire and Zero Off. |
Posted By: wtrskir1964
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 4:56pm
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Folks, Please.....I am trying to sell an engine, not host a discussion on Supra and prop rotation. Thanks for your understanding. |
Posted By: wtrskir1964
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 4:57pm
| GM with Fly By wire and Zero Off. |
Posted By: *mtrbtr*
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 5:03pm
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The more people post, the higher your ad stays on the page. ------------- 2006 SV 211 (sold) went to the dark side 97 Sport Nautique (sold) 89 PS 190 (sold) 05 Four Winns H180 (sold) 89 Four Winns 180 Freedom (sold) 75 MFG (sold) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 5:32pm
Correct plus Jim, it may be better for you to post in the for sale forum section and not the forum general section. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 5:48pm
| Correct Pete. Back when stuff used to get removed from the general forum if it was a for sale listing posted. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 6:24pm
| Please people he's trying to sell an engine not discuss proper post locations. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 6:39pm
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This is CCF When's the last time a thread actually stayed on track and didn't stray off to wherever? Besides, the Supra discussion might sell your engine a little easier Is that a new transmission or a rebuilt original that you're selling? |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 6:42pm
Zach, Are you saying there's a moderator that's not doing his job?  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-20-2017 at 7:27pm
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Where are you located? Chapin SC or some other state? |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: October-22-2017 at 2:38pm
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Hi Jim, Jody Here, You might make more off the engine parting it out. The ECM is NLA and really a pricey bugger to replace if one needs one! Glad to see you are moving over to a Re-power Excalibur. We are doing one in the shop now on a 99 Bubble back. Cheers buddy! ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: wtrskir1964
Date Posted: October-24-2017 at 12:00am
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Hey Jody, Would like to sell complete or may just keep to put in a Shamrock. The 1.23: 40 A is mint. Keep it in mind if needing a 40. I also have the original 40 A out of my 97 ski that is perfect other than the whine experienced in gears of it's vintage. Will let that one go really reasonable. As far as parting out the engine I'm not really interested in doing that. I will entertain an offer on the whole engine. Thanks, Jim |
Posted By: wtrskir1964
Date Posted: October-24-2017 at 12:03am
| I'm located in Chapin, SC...just like my profile says.... |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-24-2017 at 12:28am
Guess Jody didn't get the memo on the bottom falling out of the gt40 ecm market.  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-24-2017 at 2:40am
Avatar Username: wtrskir1964 Group: Newbie Newbie Ladder Group: Primary Ladder Group Account Status: Active Joined: October-17-2017 at 10:06pm Last Visit: Yesterday at 10:33pm Points: 7 Posts: 6 [1.00 posts per day] Find Posts: Search for posts by wtrskir1964 Find Members Posts Answer: 0 Thanked: 0 Status: Offline Offline Information Communicate Real Name: Jim Miller Gender: Male Date of Birth: October-20-1964 Age: 53 Location: Chapin Homepage: Homepage Not Given Occupation: Sales Interests: Slalom / Barefoot Private Message: Send Private Message Send Private Message Buddy List: Add to Buddy List Add to Buddy List Email Address: Send Email Send Email Facebook: Facebook Not Given Twitter: Twitter Not Given LinkedIn: LinkedIn Not Given Windows Live Messenger: Windows Live Messenger Not Given Skype Name: Skype Name Not Given Yahoo Messenger: Yahoo Messenger Not Given AIM Address: AIM Address Not Given ICQ Number: ICQ Number Not Given Signature Jim Miller That would be like you think your profile says. It only says Chapin If it said Chapin SC I wouldn't have needed to ask, but you can update it if you want to |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-24-2017 at 7:22am
And I thought Jim lived in Chapin Il. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-24-2017 at 5:44pm
| I was thinking Chapin Kuwait by the price. |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: October-24-2017 at 6:48pm
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Yeah—1650 hour motor for nearly 5 grand? To quote Mike Ditka, “Who you crappin?” |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-24-2017 at 8:06pm
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There was one on ski it again at the end of March. Complete and running but had a cracked block for 1K at a Nautique dealer. If I'd had been home I would have called. Should have anyway and seen if they would have held it til I got there. Skidim last had brand new ones in '04 for 6500. One of those and a closed cooling system would had tripled my Shamrock's value ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-24-2017 at 9:06pm
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Will that fit in my 89 Bayliner Capri? How much will it cost to ship to 96795? ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: October-26-2017 at 12:12pm
Man you guys are brutal. Cut the guy some slack, it's over priced but he'll find that out when he doesn't get any bite's.  Can't crush the guy for trying to make up some of the money for his upgrade by listing it to high, after all it's up to the buyer and what they are willing to pay. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-26-2017 at 12:36pm
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I must say, you guys are doing a slam bang job of keeping his thread alive and at the top of the for sale section.that some moderator must have moved it to to keep Pete happy Jim probably is not too happy about it though
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Posted By: gt40KS
Date Posted: October-27-2017 at 1:27am
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What you need to find Jim is a close-to-retirement guy that loves to have spare parts on the shelf. And has loads of extra cash to spend on said parts. And time to fiddle with all those extra parts. Hey, that could be me! Well, except for the extra cash. And the time. But that could also be Ken. Maybe. On the bright side, the thread is still back on top ------------- JCCI 1995 Ski Nautique GT40 |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: October-27-2017 at 7:12am
| Jim, sorry if I came on too strong with the Mike Ditka quote—as gun-driver points out—maybe we’re a bit of a tough crowd! . Why don’t you put this post in the parts for sale section where it belongs. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-27-2017 at 7:29am
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I guess he doesn't like Mike Ditka
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Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: October-27-2017 at 11:11am
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Not sure how many of you have received nasty private messages from newbie Jim, but he’s definitely not the kind of guy I’d do business with Jim—hope you learn a lesson here somehow that this forum is for the mutual benefit of boat owners that seek to help one another—and who can take a little ribbing once in awhile. That pretty much disqualifies you. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-27-2017 at 11:15am
Oh, I'm not the only one?
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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-27-2017 at 11:18am
| Yeah, I could tell Jim wasn't the kind of guy I would do business with when he listed a high hour GT-40 Setup for about 80-85%% of what you could buy a NWZ needing some TLC and remove the engine/trans plus still have all of the parts to sell as well as the trailer. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-27-2017 at 11:23am
| I generally don't do business with "offerers" of grossly overpriced goods but that doesn't mean their personality has to be as out of line as their pricing. |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-27-2017 at 11:56am
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About two years ago I was set to buy a gt40/tranny combo from another member as he planned going to a 6.0 for footing. The deal was to meet 6 hours away, test drive the ~12 or 1400 hour motor still in his boat. Upon satisfaction the following week meet at Jody’s 6 hours away and have him swap the engines around in the same day. IIRC it was $2200 or $2500 for the combo plus Jody’s time. But as it got closer to d-day his company shipped him to Italy for a 3 year stretch and he decided to wait until his return for the 6.0, understandably. That’s how the usual fair folks at CCF roll. Last year I also turned down two running 5.7 ZO motors complete with all speed controls for $3500 and $3800. One motor had high hours, another motor had even higher hours but rebuilt. I knew then I passing up on a good deal. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: stepper459
Date Posted: October-27-2017 at 12:49pm
Since this thread is slightly off the rails anyway, and I totally forgot to check back after posting over a week ago, I'll chime in; sorry for the delay Pete. KENO is right - my Supra was an '89 with the 1.23 and this was a straightforward swap, the exhaust had to be reduced from 3.5" to 3" and we had to add a fuel return line. And...we had to retrofit the infamous extra power wire that is referenced in the "Poor Man's GT-40 diagnosis" thread of legendary status around here. That one took us a while to figure out. I even used the same prop initially, because the GT-40 has a higher WOT RPM but I eventually put on an Acme and probably should have done that sooner. That engine had something like 500 hours on it when we got it, but had a major overheat in its history, and a knocking sound. It stayed that way for a few years, until it got a little worse and we rebuilt the engine (properly) as one piston was scoring its cylinder wall slightly. At 1,600 hours it was still running flawlessly when I sold the whole boat. And here's another free bump! Maybe the seller will come down a bit. I think it's a little high, but not crazy. |