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Topic: New Airguide speedometers or GPS
Posted By: redritereturn
Subject: New Airguide speedometers or GPS
Date Posted: July-04-2018 at 2:43am
I have a pair of new Airguide speedometers as well as new 'ballast tubes'...I'm debating on going with either the perfect pass GPS speedometer, the whole perfect pass system or try to keep it as original as possible. I've been using the tach for way too many years and it never seems to be correct in relation to mph



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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: July-04-2018 at 9:08am
PM sent

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78 SkiTiq


Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: July-04-2018 at 9:27am
And another


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-04-2018 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by Air206 Air206 wrote:

PM sent

Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

And another


Jeff,

I think they're after those new speedos!   

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Keep it original, Pete
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Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: July-04-2018 at 5:39pm
Why not both options? One Airguide and one Precision Star GPS speedo. That's what I have in my 1994 SNOB. Redundancy -- belt & suspenders.

[If somebody wants my old and still working Aurguide, send me a PM]

JQ

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Current
2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited

Previous
2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow
1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow

Aqua skiing, ergo sum


Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: July-04-2018 at 6:12pm
sent


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-04-2018 at 9:30pm
Why not convert the original airguide(s) to gps? Best of both worlds- precise and original (appearance).


Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: July-04-2018 at 10:24pm
That’s an option for sure


Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: July-05-2018 at 12:45am
Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

sent


Got it. Back at you.

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Current
2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited

Previous
2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow
1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow

Aqua skiing, ergo sum


Posted By: redritereturn
Date Posted: July-05-2018 at 1:20am
PM's sent.

I'm still debating what to do...I definitely prefer the original appearance vs some of the GPS ones I've looked at. Does the poster from 2013 or so still do the speedometer conversion to GPS with the original ones?


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-05-2018 at 9:10am
http://www.nauticlaugic.com/airglide.html


Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: July-05-2018 at 10:16am
http://www.nauticlaugic.com/airglide.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.nauticlaugic.com/airglide.html


Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: July-05-2018 at 10:24am
JQ does yours say Airguide or Nautiques above the pointer.


Posted By: Fabcon
Date Posted: July-05-2018 at 11:30am
Go with your new Airguides with the GPS installed, Keeps the look original

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1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort
1984 Barefoot Nautique (Parting Out)


Posted By: redritereturn
Date Posted: July-05-2018 at 10:58pm
I'm thinking that's probably the route I'm going to go....I still need to check out the link.


Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: July-06-2018 at 12:34am
I wouldn’t gut those brand new ones if you’re going GPS.
If the ones you have are faded I’d get new faces from here http://www.classicboatwork.com/classicparts/gauges/airguide/agr/agr.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.classicboatwork.com/classicparts/gauges/airguide/agr/agr.html and gut the old ones


Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: July-06-2018 at 2:20am
Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

JQ does yours say Airguide or Nautiques above the pointer.




JQ

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Current
2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited

Previous
2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow
1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow

Aqua skiing, ergo sum


Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: July-06-2018 at 8:54am
Originally posted by Jonny Quest Jonny Quest wrote:

Why not both options? One Airguide and one Precision Star GPS speedo. That's what I have in my 1994 SNOB. Redundancy -- belt & suspenders. JQ
   That's what I did in the Barefoot. The PrecisionStar is good for low speed accuracy and provides a clock which doesn't need resetting. The looks are not original but match fairly well and are very useful.

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78 SkiTiq


Posted By: rosconole
Date Posted: July-09-2018 at 3:03pm
I like the precision star I run both and I like the clock and the handy dandy compass.(you know when driving in the pouring rain and you can't see a thing) Oh not to mention trip meter is easy to figure the fuel burn later...

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1989 ski nautique ,1991 barefoot nautique, 1993 Mustang Cobra 1998 5.0 Magazine shootout invitee


Posted By: redritereturn
Date Posted: July-09-2018 at 9:27pm
My immediate plan is to just retrofit my existing gauges with the nauticlaugic GPS system and the new faces this fall or spring. The existing ones must have known something was up since one worked all weekend and the other one mustered it's way up to 15-20 most of the time. As far as low speed accuracy where does the GPS retrofit struggle with accuracy, is it decent around 20mph?


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-09-2018 at 10:52pm
Under 5mph and over 45mph.

If your gauges sometimes work, then the issue you’re having isn’t with the gauges. Consider not scrapping/cannibalizing the internals when you convert. Send me a PM for details.


Posted By: Mille1sj
Date Posted: September-23-2018 at 11:44pm
Do you know if the conversions will work for an older airguide? I have a 77 Ski Tique, the website didn’t list these. Curious if anyone has tried it.   My airguide hasn’t worked in a few years, I would love to fill the holes in and remove the pitot


Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: September-24-2018 at 10:17am
Originally posted by Mille1sj Mille1sj wrote:

Do you know if the conversions will work for an older airguide?


Yes, they can do the conversion to the older Air Guides, but I have not done it myself.

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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S.
1968 Ski Nautique, Project.


Posted By: Mille1sj
Date Posted: September-24-2018 at 10:28am
Originally posted by Donald80SN Donald80SN wrote:

Originally posted by Mille1sj Mille1sj wrote:

Do you know if the conversions will work for an older airguide?


Yes, they can do the conversion to the older Air Guides, but I have not done it myself.


Thanks Donald, I watched the video on how to convert it to GPS. Seems pretty straight forward.


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-24-2018 at 10:49am
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Under 5mph and over 45mph.


Over 45? I thought they read accurately up to 85 with the correct graphics?


Posted By: man0seven
Date Posted: September-24-2018 at 7:17pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Under 5mph and over 45mph.


Are you saying they are not accurate between 5 and 45?

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2005 Ski Nautique


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-24-2018 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by redritereturn redritereturn wrote:

where does the GPS retrofit struggle with accuracy?
Under 5mph and over 45mph.

(On a standard 50mph face).


Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: September-24-2018 at 7:36pm
Originally posted by man0seven man0seven wrote:

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Under 5mph and over 45mph.


Are you saying they are not accurate between 5 and 45?


The old water pressure driven Air Guides are very accurate. As accurate as you will need.
They are so accurate I would not consider going GPS driven in an older boat.

GPS comes into play if you are looking for speed control for skiing or other bells and whistles like clocks and compasses.

JMO,

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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S.
1968 Ski Nautique, Project.


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-24-2018 at 8:41pm
Reasonably accurate (when properly adjusted), yes. Reliable? That will depend on your water conditions. Weedy or debris filled waterways will cause issues with pitot systems. They also cannot compensate for current if you care about speed over land (slalom course in a river, for instance).

There is certainly a place for a $200 gps conversion in an older boat. Originality (appearance), reliability and accuracy are among the benefits, as is simplicity (removing the pitot, tubing, etc) if you so desire. Not all disciplines require speed control, and a converted analog gauge compliments those that do... at a much lower price point.


Posted By: redritereturn
Date Posted: September-24-2018 at 11:41pm
I saw this topic was active again...I did get one of them to work fairly accurately this summer, at least 90% of the time. I am planning repairing my dash pod this winter and am going to look into fixing the originals and see how that goes before going the GPS route.


Posted By: foot@63
Date Posted: September-25-2018 at 7:38pm
I kept my originals in my 86 2001, just plug up my portable Garmin using suction cup and rock on. Best of both!,

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Posted By: Mille1sj
Date Posted: October-02-2018 at 10:18pm
Can anyone using the external gps conversion kit from Nautic Laudic tell me where you mounted the antenna or if it can be mounted under the dash?


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-02-2018 at 10:46pm
Under the dash works just fine.


Posted By: Mille1sj
Date Posted: October-03-2018 at 8:53am
When I spoke with someone from Nautic Laugic, they said that I would need to drill an additional hole in the back of my current speedometer to allow room for the pigtail. Has anyone else had to do this? Just curious how big the hole is and how it looks. They said I couldn’t use the internal unit for my 77 Ski Tique Speedo.


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-03-2018 at 9:06am
Yes. 1/2” ish. You will want to enlarge the hole used by the pitot tubing. You want to know how the back of the housing looks with the larger hole?


Posted By: Mille1sj
Date Posted: October-03-2018 at 9:41am
Correct, I was curious how the back of the housing looked with the larger hole in the back.


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-03-2018 at 12:05pm
Very similar to the way it looks now... but the hole for the pitot tubing is slightly larger (1/2”).

The hole is round.


Posted By: Mille1sj
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 3:56pm
I found out why my Speedometer stopped working. There was a 2 year period of time between my father in-law owning the boat to my wife and I. The person prior to me put a radio in the dash. When I removed the radio last night, you can see the top right corner of the radio hole where he cut through the pitot tube.



Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 5:26pm
He must have plugged the tubing coming from the pitot itself or you'd have water spraying around under the dash while the boat was moving


Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: October-30-2018 at 1:01am
Waterproof radio I assume?   

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2004 196 LE Ski 1969 Marauder 19 1978 Ski


Posted By: NCH20SKIER
Date Posted: October-30-2018 at 8:50am
wooooo

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'05 206 Limited
'88 BFN


Posted By: Mille1sj
Date Posted: October-30-2018 at 11:51am
It was also cut further back in the boat where he put speakers. The radio and all of the components have been removed and will be reglassed. I don’t see a need for the radio, you usually can’t hear it over the engine.



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