Back with a new project....
Printed From: CorrectCraftFan.com
Category: General Correct Craft Discussion
Forum Name: General Discussion
Forum Discription: Anything Correct Craft
URL: http://www.CorrectCraftFan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43201
Printed Date: April-18-2024 at 3:56pm
Topic: Back with a new project....
Posted By: Treybizttu
Subject: Back with a new project....
Date Posted: July-20-2018 at 5:30pm
|
Been a while but I'm back with a new project boat.... Sold our pro air about a year ago to fund an investment and wanted another Nautique since. We though about newer, non-projects, different brands (nothing like a CC), etc.. Ended up stumbling onto a 99 Super Air this week that was in good/great shape other than a window into the side of the block with a rod almost hanging out of it. I'm a sucker for a good deal on a project so it begins today. Family stuff is going to take up 99.9% of our time this summer so I'm probably not going to do much other than research for a while. That and it's supposed to be tripple digit heat for the foreseeable future in our neck of the woods. I don't much like crawling around in a bilge when it's that hot. I'll get pictures and other stuff going. Anybody know a good source for a 502 Long Block? 
|
Replies:
Posted By: sport1999
Date Posted: July-21-2018 at 11:30pm
| Congrats on the new project. I'm sure a few pictures will follow. |
Posted By: gt40KS
Date Posted: July-21-2018 at 11:39pm
Good find if you don't mind the work and want/ need a project. I'm sure we'll all be watching the progress and for sure will require the visual aid as you post them.  ------------- JCCI 1995 Ski Nautique GT40 |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-23-2018 at 1:14pm
|
Went back and forth on a project but I really enjoyed working on my pro air with my son. He's out of diapers this time so he should be even more helpful. :) I've got a few pictures but need to find a new hosting site. My pro air progress was always on photobucket. Trey |
Posted By: s_kelley2000
Date Posted: July-24-2018 at 4:35pm
Was it born with a Python 502 or just considering all options for the new block? Looking forward to seeing your new project. ------------- 1999 Python Super Sport |
Treybizttu wrote:Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-24-2018 at 5:37pm
Born a 502. If my research is correct, it's one of 11 Super Airs for the Year and one of a few here in Texas... (I know there is a Black/White 99 for sale south of me with a Python.) |
Posted By: s_kelley2000
Date Posted: July-24-2018 at 6:42pm
|
Very cool! Good luck finding a block. I have heard that same number of 11 Python Super Airs in 99. I am not sure if that 11 includes Super Sports as well or if there is a separate count for them. I have a 99 Python Super Sport and love it. ------------- 1999 Python Super Sport |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-24-2018 at 6:51pm
|
I've actually had good luck finding blocks so far they just aren't cheap at all. I was prepared for that and the price was right so is what it is. Boat itself is in pretty good shape for the year. I've got a buddy from college that's into the whole Lake Havasu Giant Boat Small Package Scene. He is supposed to put me in touch with his motor builder here in Texas. His specialty is Big Block GM motors so I'm going to pick his brain. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-24-2018 at 8:20pm
  Only ones i have currently |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: July-24-2018 at 8:57pm
|
Interesting. Tower is a 2004 if it came off a SAN, or was modified off of a 211. Those graphics must be custom made. Not a graphic I've ever seen in one of the brochures, or on any other boat. Looks to be in good shape. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-24-2018 at 11:56pm
Correct on the tower, it’s off an 04. I thought I had seen these graphics before but I could be wrong.... They won’t be around for long as they are pretty sun baked. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-25-2018 at 1:19pm
|
Crawled around it a bunch last night and cleaned all the compartments. It's equiped with a heater and a shower. Can't say I've ever had a boat with either. And a powered rear nav light. |
Posted By: sport1999
Date Posted: July-25-2018 at 4:16pm
| Looks to be in fine condition. Purple has never been my favorite, but I'm sure you'll make it work! Nothing better than a good buffing and new stickers. Good luck. |
Posted By: Faceplant
Date Posted: July-25-2018 at 11:34pm
|
Love the purple. Very sharp boat !! ------------- Feels like I am hanging 10 but in reality - probably hanging 6. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-26-2018 at 6:46pm
| Oddly enough I love the purple. I'm going to pull all of the decals and do something different. I can't seem to find the 99 decals however. I can print whatever so it would be nice if I could track down the art. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 2:21pm
|
I'm still trying to understand the differences between the later model BBC motors and shopping for an over head crane. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 4:31pm
|
Really looks nice! I test drove a '99 Python Sport back when I was looking and the sound was awesome, cool factor as well, and needless to say it pulled hard out of the hole and buried the Airguides. That's going to be a great boat for you. Overhead crane - meaning beam and roller with a chain hoist? Something else? ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 5:11pm
On the crane I haven't decided yet. I''ve looked at a few some what mobile gantry cranes on the local Craigslist. We could use it for other things at the ranch so one of those might come in handy. My boat barn was also built with the intention of a second story that never happened so it has gigantic ceiling joists. I might be able to hang a winch from there. I've used plenty of cherry pickers in the past but looking at different options this time. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 5:45pm
|
Mobile gantry's tend to be less rugged than they look at times, figure you'd want one that is rated for twice what you expect to lift with it. You can build an I-beam frame for relatively short money, hang a hoist on a trolley, really versatile as you can lift and roll the load in a straight line. Might have to pour a pair of reinforced square slabs under the uprights depending on what kind of slab you have there now. Can't move it but very useful. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: woodyelc
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 6:17pm
|
Those decal are factory installed. Saw plenty coming thru Southeast and have had the pleasure of installing some. ------------- woodyelc |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 6:40pm
Interesting. Have seen many Air Nautque with that design, but that would be the first Super Air. Got to believe the guys that were there. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 6:45pm
This is actually the first set I had seen on a Super Air. I've noticed quite a few on the DD boats. |
Posted By: s_kelley2000
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 7:48pm
|
With all due respect to Woody, I think this is a very good recreation of the http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/bview.asp?id=29#image16" rel="nofollow - 98 Air Nautique graphic updated to add Super. There is also a similar version for the http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/bview.asp?id=31#image9" rel="nofollow - 99 Pro Air . My apologies if they ever offered this graphic for Super Airs but if so I have never seen it. I believe the correct http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/bview.asp?id=31#image16" rel="nofollow - 99 Super Air graphics are NLA unfortunately. ------------- 1999 Python Super Sport |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 8:04pm
I believe you are correct. If I could fiind the font or art I can produce them but that search is proving fruitless. I've actually seen a set of letters from a 211/236 I believe on this vintage of a super air. They looked great as it wasn't a super over the top graphics.. IE. not a Bylerly or the Skull/Cross Bones. (Don't get me wrong I like those too just not on this boat). |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 8:08pm
|
I know I'm not supposed to link to the "other" website but I like these graphics. (Page 7 after the tribal... No tribal, ever). https://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/forum/nautique-topics/show-us-your-nautique/27473-1997-super-sport-red-black-air-work-in-progress-lots-of-photos/page7 |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 9:10pm
|
I kind of thought the same thing. But it was 20 years ago, and I was not the guy putting them on the boat, so . . . BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-31-2018 at 9:17pm
And sounded like he had seen them before. 😃. Who knows, they look like they’ve been on there since new or close to it |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: August-03-2018 at 8:14pm
 
|
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: August-03-2018 at 8:16pm
  Still shines up pretty good. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: August-03-2018 at 8:21pm
 
|
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: August-04-2018 at 1:01pm
| Doing my research on the 502 has lead me to something... Almost every 502 long or short block I’ve found is roller cam but from what I gather these came factory flat Tappet. The only actual python rebuild I’ve found was on here by James and he went with a roller cam but I haven’t found anything in his posts specific to the cam. Basically I’m wondering if it really matters |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-04-2018 at 1:22pm
| Gen 6 502 was roller, should include the pythons. It matters, stay roller. |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-04-2018 at 1:25pm
|
If it were me I’d spend the extra $ and go with a roller. Found this in a Chevy forum after a search... “Putting a flat tappet into a factory roller block is dirt simple. Shove in the flat tappet cam and lifters, remove the stock roller cam retaining plate, install a standard flat tappet timing chain set (which is different from the roller cam chain set) and you're good to go. Done it several times. Most recently last month on a super-cheap 350 that's going in my wife's 92 Camaro "fun car." The flat tappet lifters will look kinda "funny" sitting WAY down in those extra-tall roller lifter bores, but they'll work just peachy. In fact, the factory often used flat tappet cams in roller block castings for truck and boat engines. This is exactly how they did it. Oh yeah...... you'll need flat-tappet length pushrods, too (~7.8"). Roller pushrods are shorter than those used on flat tappet cams in a SBC. No biggie. A decent cheap set can be had for just about nothing. A good set for about twice almost nothing.” |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: August-04-2018 at 11:01pm
|
Oh I for sure want to go rolller if it works with the factory ECM and what not. From what I gather the PCM 502 was flat tapet from the factory. Edit: I could be wrong on it being flat tapet of course. Haven’t pulled it apart yet. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: September-04-2018 at 1:49pm
|
Well, I forgot to unhook the batteries last trip to the lake and now they are both aparently dead. From what I gather my only access to the hatch is to remove the rear seat and un-do the pin holding down the hatch. What fun... |
Posted By: s_kelley2000
Date Posted: September-04-2018 at 2:05pm
Did you end up doing a motor swap and get her running already? The back seat rest lifts straight up, you shouldn't have to mess with the seat base. You may or may not have the 2 dividers behind the seat. If you have them, slide them out of the way and you should be able to access at least one of your batteries to charge it. Hopefully you don't have to remove the pin. Mine took quite a bit of "persuasion" to get out when I was having issues the lift actuator relays. ------------- 1999 Python Super Sport |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: September-04-2018 at 2:17pm
|
I wish it was running.. I actually haven't touched it at all. I was going to vacuum it out and unhook the batteries this weekend but only got the housekeeping portion done. I'm working on a kitchen remodel so the boat comes next in a few months. I've got everything worked out with a somewhat local motor builder just need to send my money for a long block and get some time set aside for the swap. It's killing me to not work on it but I made a promise to the lady in charge. Thanks for the tip, I'm headed back this weekend or next and will get it sorted out. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: September-17-2018 at 3:35pm
| Thanks for the back seat tip.... Just did that and charged both. Ready for this stupid kitchen to be done so I can start working on this sucker. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: October-01-2018 at 1:59pm
|
Ended up with some free time this weekend at the lake and without the other half/kids so me and a buddy worked on the boat. Funny: We were opening the hatch and I accidentally bumped the starter with my buddy standing right behind it. It actually fired (immediately oddly enough) and scared him to death since he was right by the exhaust and not expecting it. It was just for a split second so it didn't sound awful but it did push the rod farther out of the oil pan.  Took the manifolds, hoses, throttle cable, starter, etc off the motor. Also pulled the ballasts, and dividers. the factory tanks will not be going back in. Labeled and took plenty of pictures so I can hopefully go back in fairly easy. I am beginning to wonder how complete i can keep it from here on out before it will squeeze out of there... I know the FCC needs to come off as it sticks pretty far out there. I'll need to seperate the Trans and V-Drive and slide them forward a bit. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: October-01-2018 at 2:09pm
|
Also, Quick Question: This is the first boat I've had with a heater... Are they prone to leaking? Only reason I ask is I've never had one and not really sure I care all that much. We are in TX after all. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-01-2018 at 3:39pm
|
I have only had one for 5 years now,if it wasn't on it when I bought it I doubt I would add one because I wouldn't know any different. I have to say it is nice when your heading in when the sun's going down and your still soaking wet. I think when they have trouble it's the core that leaks,hoses seem to last quite awhile. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: October-01-2018 at 5:28pm
|
I installed mine a few years ago, wouldn't be without one now, but then again I'm in NH, not TX! I've read about cores leaking, there's nothing else to go wrong with them, I suppose a blower could fail but it's not like we're putting many hours on them. I'd suspect that where you find a leaking core you find a poorly winterized boat, but I'm just guessing that, no firsthand experience. Trey, with all your disassembly work I think next time the first thing to disconnect might be the battery ground!  ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: October-01-2018 at 5:44pm
Haha, it came off right after.... It was actually only connected so we could raise the hatch and pull the pin. I just got button happy and away it went. Batteries are actually sitting on the bench on a trickle charger. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: October-23-2018 at 6:29pm
|
Motor is sitting on the loading dock!
|
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: November-15-2018 at 2:06pm
|
Kitchen Remodel finished today less a few paint touch ups so it's time to start working on the boat... Very excited to get this sucker moving along. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: December-03-2018 at 11:19am
  Probably just run some lucas through it and It'll be good as new.
|
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: December-03-2018 at 11:46am
|
Always interesting to see the sheer power of that rotating mass of metal! Bending one of those is no easy task. Yup, some Lucas, JB Weld, and straighten it out and you'll be good to go!  ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: December-03-2018 at 11:56am
|
That can be fixed with a quick trip to your local Home Depot. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: December-03-2018 at 12:07pm
| I've got it down to the long block in the boat right now. Hoping to get it out one night this week at a buddies shop. I think I want to seperate the motor from the trans and leave the trans/v-drive intact. I should have enough room to slide the motor back a little. It's tight quarters back there when the motor is fully dressed but not horrible with all of the stuff that hangs off of it missing. |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: December-03-2018 at 12:08pm
|
Date nights go better when a boat has a heater, just sayin ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: December-03-2018 at 12:52pm
|
Lol, my wife is the definition of a fair weather boater. Heater wouldn't help my cause. |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: December-03-2018 at 5:55pm
|
Could give flex seal a try! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: zwoobah
Date Posted: December-03-2018 at 6:23pm
For heavy duty marine applications you must use a screen and THEN flex seal ------------- 1968 Mustang 16 - 351W powered |
Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: December-03-2018 at 10:28pm
|
That'll buff out... ------------- Current 2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: December-04-2018 at 12:46pm
|
Drug the boat to the office today. Going to use the forklift this evening and get the motor out. I'd really like to leave the trans and v-drive intact. Since all of the accesories are off the front of the motor and I've actually got a little wiggle room to do so any reason I don't want to do it that way? |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-04-2018 at 1:55pm
|
Don't know how you could do it any other way unless you were able to remove the engine and trans as a unit? Do you think it's easier to separate the engine from the trans or the vdrive from the trans? Not alot of wiggle room there anyway and the BB iron I'll bet even less. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: December-04-2018 at 3:15pm
|
Well, someone had suggested that I take the v-drive and trans loose and scoot them back vs going to opposite direction with the motor. But, I believe that was under the impression all the accessories were still hanging off the front of the motor. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: December-05-2018 at 1:37pm
  Out she came... No real surprises. Time to clean the bildge and get to work. |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: December-05-2018 at 11:31pm
|
Nice work. You are making a hard job look easy. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: 79SNbrady
Date Posted: December-06-2018 at 5:59pm
|
Did you ever figure out the direction your going with roller vs flat tappet? or is the jury still out until you tear apart the vented engine? ------------- "It's just water... not concrete or dirt... so just throw it" -Parks Bonifay 1979 Ski Nautique - (stringer job completed summer 2012) 2007 236 Team - All White! |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: December-07-2018 at 11:47am
Roller, it was clarified somewhere along the road but I don't think I mentioned it. I've got a new long block sitting in my warehouse. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: December-10-2018 at 8:38pm
|
Fun stuff now I'm going to get the bildge cleaned up and: Replace all the hoses. (Fuel/Cooling/Etc) Add an underwater light New Bilge Pumps (one works and sounds terrible. New Ballast hoses and Pumps (set up for bags) Probably need to put some thought into a steering cable and re-pack of the shaft as well. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: February-27-2019 at 4:17pm
|
Finally getting off my rear and getting started. Took a few days off during the kids spring break and I'll spend some of it on the boat. Ordered all my external motor parts, ballast, bildge and all related goodies today. Plan is to have the motor in this month and ready to start by april fools day. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 11:38am
 |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 11:51am
|
Well that looks promising! ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 12:41pm
|
Getting there. So something I don't have a whole ton of knowledge on... Installting the Distributor+ Priming the oil pump. - I figured the pump needs to be primed before the first start but that leads me to a few questions.. I'm probably not going to put the motor in for another 2 weeks. I've still got to get the bildge area sorted out and I'm not home much for a bit. If I prime it now or soon does it matter if it sits for a few weeks? I'm trying to decide if I want to fill it with oil, prime it, and stab the distributor now or wait until i'm ready. I've also only installed one distributor in my entire life so making sure I get that right has been confusing. It would be nice to have the motor as buttoned up and ready to go as will fit through as we lower it in to reduce the amount I'm doing in the boat itself. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 12:54pm
|
It's not the oil pump that you are priming, it's the engine. By spinning the pump you force oil through all the passages so there's no dry time during startup. Curious if others here feel a newly rebuilt engine is lubed enough to not bother with priming, but I'd tend to do it. Basically you have a drill extension that matches the distributor end and spins the oil pump for a bit to build pressure and send oil all over the engine. If you prime it and it sits a few weeks I don't see that as being a problem at all. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 2:27pm
I understood the process but wondered how effective it was to do so if the motor still has a few weeks for the oil to run back into the pan. Curious what others think that obviously know more than me about rebuilds. :) |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 2:31pm
| Priming it right before the first crank would be beat, but priming a few weeks earlier would be better than not priming at all. I would slowly move the crank while priming to make sure oil gets everywhere. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 2:50pm
| Also need to figure out what oil to run for the first change.... I know several Python owners are running rotella which is fine by me but I need to figure out if I should run anything different the first go round. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 2:55pm
|
Convention is non-synth straight 30w for initial engine break in (~10hrs) but I’d confirm with the builder. They should have a recommendation on weight to run afterwards as well (based on the clearances that they set). Roller cam usually means it’ll be pretty tolerant of oil choice. A decent, reasonably priced option like rotella, delo or gtx would get my vote (for break-in). |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 3:56pm
|
Most engines that have roller lifters have a 5w-20,30 or 40 weight oil so they lubricate right away. I did not check to see if Marine engines have the same recommendation when running roller lifters. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 5:35pm
|
They don’t. 15w40 was the recommendation in the (PCM) vortec 350, iirc. I suspect the 6.0L is the same. In any case, oil weight is related to the clearances and not the cam choice- probably best not to confuse the issue. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-14-2019 at 7:37pm
|
I've seen 15-40 and 20-50 from a few different people. I think my motor guy mentioned it but wasnt on my paperwork from him. Sent him a note this morning to see what he says. I haven't gotten off my rump to call or email anybody but i'm curious if there are any remote oil filter kits still floating around. |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: March-15-2019 at 1:57am
|
Tim, I have seen, working in the Automotive Rebuilding business lifter failures and they were attributed to people running heavier oils. These were people that switched from the recommended 5-30 to 10-40W in freshly rebuilt engines. The rollers on the lifters were slow to get oil. Not the lifter mechanism, just the roller needles. It was also in cold climates in the winter that we would see these issues. In boats most do not go out when it is sub 30 degrees so it may not be an issue. ------------- |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-25-2019 at 6:25pm
Bilge is getting there. Shooting to put the motor back in next week.   
|
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-25-2019 at 6:30pm
Ran short on a ballast fitting or two and a couple feet of hose yesterday so I re-directed my energy towards graphic removal.  
|
Posted By: gt40KS
Date Posted: March-25-2019 at 7:32pm
|
Certainly coming along nicely. I think everyone following your thread is getting mighty anxious to see that beast sitting in its new home! Kinda betting you're the same way ------------- JCCI 1995 Ski Nautique GT40 |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-25-2019 at 7:43pm
|
Feel like it's taking forever but I know there are plenty of people with much more involved projects so I can't complain. Boat #1 refurb went much faster since we had 1 kiddo and I had a more relaxed work schedule. This one is contending with 2 very active Boys (that help on the boat when they aren't playing sports) and work is nothing short of nuts for the last few years. It's boating weather as it is around here so I'm trying to hustle. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-25-2019 at 7:44pm
|
I also get to figure out how to pump out a completely full gas tank with 2 year old gas. Or more to the point. What to do with said gas when it's out. |
Posted By: gt40KS
Date Posted: March-25-2019 at 8:18pm
Cheap hand pump from Harbor Freight and a few 5 gal buckets will get most out. Or you could siphon it out into your least favorite neighbors tank Just kidding ..... But if you have some property, that'd make a good accelerant for a bonfire Again, just kidding ... wouldn't want you to loose any facial hair. Or skin. ------------- JCCI 1995 Ski Nautique GT40 |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-25-2019 at 8:29pm
My old lawnmower gas + some diesel might or might not have been used for the last bonfire at the ranch.
|
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: March-28-2019 at 1:04pm
Motor is ready. Just need to finish the in-boat items. Few days and I'll put it in there.... 
|
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: March-28-2019 at 2:18pm
Looks so tiny ..... you should have gone with some bigger displacement!  I have no regrets, love my boat and it's perfect for what we do, but the Python powered Sport I considered buying was an awfully fun, cool, great sounding boat. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: sport1999
Date Posted: March-28-2019 at 3:13pm
| Well that is pretty. Congrats. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: April-01-2019 at 5:36pm
|
Finished up the ballast, new rear bilge pump and hose, all the cooling (except the pre-formed one) and gas lines are new and in the boat. So the pre-formed hose has been wrong from two people now. I can only assume I keep getting the one for the 496 baby python.   
|
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: April-02-2019 at 2:04pm
|
The hose looks very similar. Looks like it is just missing a couple of inches on one end when flipped around to match the curves. I have no experience with a python, but that looks so close I would be trying to make it work. ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: s_kelley2000
Date Posted: April-02-2019 at 6:14pm
|
Wow awesome progress! Have you tried a pre-formed hose from a 454? I remember talking to Zach a while back when he was still at N3 and he mentioned that the 502 shared many parts with the 454. Might be worth a shot especially if you can find one locally to compare. If no luck there you may want to see if a Mercruiser 502 part may work. They were pretty plentiful in off-shore boats so you might have better luck sourcing a part that way if it happens to the same. ------------- 1999 Python Super Sport |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: April-03-2019 at 12:44pm
|
I haven't started searching for a hose just yet. The one that came off is in good shape I just wanted to start fresh with all of the cooling parts. It's got a little corrosion inside but the hose itself is still soft/usable. Put the motor in last night. Have a few more items to button up and it will be time to fire. Still trying to decide what oil to run. Part of me wants to stick with Valvoline VR1 like I ran in my GT40s just in a 20-50 weight. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: April-03-2019 at 8:15pm
|
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: April-03-2019 at 8:16pm
 Tis in there. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: April-03-2019 at 8:27pm
|
Amazing to me that pan has room to fit in the bilge. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: April-03-2019 at 11:35pm
You’re gonna have to yank that thing back out, the distributor’s on the wrong end of the motor!!!  Must be some kind of a reject.
|
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: April-04-2019 at 12:58pm
My buddy helping me with the forklift had never seen a v-drive and kept telling me to turn it around. |
Posted By: gt40KS
Date Posted: April-04-2019 at 2:50pm
|
Wow, congrats it's finally in there! Shouldn't be long now ------------- JCCI 1995 Ski Nautique GT40 |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: April-04-2019 at 5:46pm
|
I also got my plug wires today.. The box was from PCM directly and had a hand written note that said "last set..." with a date on it. (I was going to run MSD or DUI wires If I needed to but liked the idea of OEM). |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: July-09-2019 at 3:29pm
|
Dropped off the face of the planet. She runs and drives. Few electrical/dash issues to iron out but we used it every day last week. 502 sounds just lovely. |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: August-01-2019 at 8:05pm
|
Got the wiring fixed up. Need to address a small leak at the rudder. But, oil pressure is lower than I was hoping after 7 hours of break-in/ babying. :( I'm finding varying reports of what to expect as far as cold/warm pressure goes but I picked up a mechanical gauge today to see what it says this weekend. (Was 10-15 on warm idle, 35ish 3k rpm or less)....Little higher when it's cold especially at idle.   
|
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: August-01-2019 at 9:13pm
|
You know oil pressure isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. You know 7-10 years ago I had seen a blurb about F1 engines running around 10-15 psi. Oil pumping robs hp. I know someone with a new car, it’s gauge shows 23 psi until it gets over 3k rpms. It uses 0w-20 oil. Maybe the engine builder went with newer machining spec’s on yours, maybe it won’t burn a quart of oil a week like the 502 that was in my work truck! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Crmaverick
Date Posted: August-01-2019 at 11:05pm
| Nothing wrong with that oil pressure you’re getting atleast 10 psi per thousand rpms at operating temps |