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Topic: Nautique Club 200
Posted By: scotchipman
Subject: Nautique Club 200
Date Posted: October-17-2018 at 1:07pm
What is the latest on the new Nautique Club 200 that is being made in the Bryant boats factory? Any pictures?



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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-17-2018 at 3:06pm
You must know more than the rest of us do about this, so what do you know?   

I'd say try Ball of Spray, there's a thread there about it, with a post by ...........you and a bunch of others


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-17-2018 at 4:03pm
Nautique Shill


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Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: October-17-2018 at 6:54pm
It seems like it is being built to satisfy the needs of skiers who do not require all the fancy add ins that the recent generation desires and feels necessary. I sW the pictures on BOS before they were taken down and to me the boat looks awesome. Since I have a home on the lake and have no need to store a ton of equipment the boat would fulfill my needs nicely. The saddlebags on the previous 200 did restrict movement near the doghouse so that's a big plus. I can easily see Nautique selling a lot of these.b very clean lines and not ugly as the new Nautique with the bulging bow and bass boat sparkles.

It will allow Nautique to nice again command a fair share of the DD market. They can also produce ore $200k wake/surf boats that are all the rage now. Win/win for everyone. Get your rip/rap for your shoreline before it erodes dye to 5-6 foot rollers.


Posted By: scotchipman
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 12:30pm
I thought I would come to the source for some better information and pictures...guess I was wrong.


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 12:53pm
Too new for this crowd Scott. Glad to hear about it because the ‘19 Ski is just fugly.

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 1:02pm
I think your confused between Correct Craft Fan and Planet Nautique - That reminds me I have to go on the Edsel site and find out about the '19 Mustang

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Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 1:32pm
I will take mine with a counter rotation engine and a carb :)

Bryant makes a damn fine boat if you are into stern drives. Should be a nice option.

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 1:40pm
Gary, PN wouldn’t know what to do with a DD SKI boat.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 2:01pm
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

Gary, PN wouldn’t know what to do with a DD SKI boat.

Correct. They however are experts at this:
Originally posted by DVskier DVskier wrote:

. Get your rip/rap for your shoreline before it erodes dye to 5-6 foot rollers.




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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 2:35pm
Yea but you guys have to admit Jeff knows how to promote a product.

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Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 2:38pm
The big barges are keeping the manufacturers in high cotton! Rolling out of the dealers on a regular basis. I asked a lady at the gym if she had a boat, yes she said a new Nautique G23. "It's so easy to surf". To each his own but it looks pretty boring to me. Growing up in NC I used to go to the coast with my surfboard in the early 60's and surf the real waves. No more,


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 3:41pm
I have less than 0 interest in anything new that comes off any boat MFG currently,

Sanger DXII is the most interesting boat currently made but it still tips the scales about 4 times what I would ever spend on a boat.


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 4:12pm
I see what you did there Zach,currently is the key word. As soon as the Montara Barefoot Pontoon with PCM's xr7 comes out ........

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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 5:11pm
Patiently waiting with my Sarf Bort.


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 6:27pm
So Scot, why don't you tell us what you know since we know nothing and you know something?

Then we'll all know something


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-18-2018 at 6:52pm


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Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 12:36pm
Rumor is that Correct Craft is going to produce a "stripped down" SN 200 which will be produced in the Bryant factory. Apparently removed the Saddle bags and some other features.

Personally, I don't think it will sell very well. There are not many DD boats sold to begin with. Then, everyone says they want a stripped down boat - but, no one actually wants a stripped down boat. For that same money, or less, they actually buy used boats with all the bells and whistles.

My $.02

BKH

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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 1:34pm
Nobody wants a stripped down boat for $80,000. 200 performance with 5.7 open cooling for 45,000 would sell like hotcakes. That's few year old 200 used values.

Of course, pricing that cheap on a new boat would absolutely destroy used 200 and 196 market.

Guaranteed the stripped down boat won't be any cheaper than the last new 200s to sell. Nautique can throw around the 105,000 starting MSRP on the new Ski Nautique and market the 200 as a bargain boat at 80,000.


Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 1:55pm
I don't believe a 45 K stripped down boat would sell particularly well. Hot cakes, or not.

BKH


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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 2:04pm
You haven't worked much in a dealership where used boats sell very well because they have depreciated 15-20K after 1 year and 100 hours.

They hit the number the market really wants to buy at. 200s are produced in small numbers which means there is demand for them but not at the pricing levels. first time buyers take the depreciation hit and the guys who want but won't spend are ready and waiting cash in hand.

Hence why the market for new 200s got so screwed up with the promo program and why it was changed over the last two years to keep boats from being sold at pricing that makes buying new look completely idiotic. Why buy a new 200 at 70-80K when you can buy a less than 1 year old promo rig with 100 loving hours for 20-30k under MSRP. Promo market basically made for 0 sales through dealers. The market likes the pricing of the Promo boats so much that's about all they buy.

Also, owners who live on slalom lakes care very little about big old storage pockets out back. Their storage is their dock.


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 2:30pm
I'd like to see what they look like and see the pricing. I love a stripped down boat. I'd say the most loved NWZ boat on the site is Brian from Massachusetts' white stripped down version.   When he posted it everyone went nuts over it.. All white boat with no coaming pads or much else if I remember.


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 2:40pm
I dig those too especially with the factory rear seat.

Even a stripped down 200 won't be "stripped down". It's cheaper to make it with the gauge screen now (less wiring and interface issues). So, besides offering it with standard engine power and no storage pockets the only other things I could see that would be stripped down are limited color selection/graphics designs etc. It's not like they can put wood stringers in etc.

Maybe Bryant MFG line is more efficient? Not many people make Gel Cote so I can't imagine there would be much savings in choosing a different vendor. Lower quality glass/resin? Just not sure what there is to strip for a significant savings. Lesser quality vinyl? The design of the seats is pretty simple so I doubt any noticeable savings of labor could be had there.


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 2:42pm
It’s a novelty Bruce. They didn’t sell back then either. Nice clean looking boats but with no back seat or 1.23, I’d pass.

I am guessing cc will be marketing the 200 to the crowd who wants a OB (non private lake folks). Not necessarily a price point boat. Removing the saddle bags certainly would improve the design IMHO.


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 2:47pm
The bags were weird and nonfunctional. How often do you put 4+ slalom skis in a boat unless you are doing a barefoot step line.

Tim is right, Nautique has gotten really good lately at selling not price point boats.

My point is, even a stripper 200 currently wouldn't be considered a stripper boat like the 93 SN standard was.


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 3:15pm
Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

How often do you put 4+ slalom skis in a boat unless you are doing a barefoot step line.


About all summer, we have 5 slalom skis in our Sportster. I wouldn't know what a bare floor is like.

It may depend on the region that your from. The Malibu Sportster is a stripped boat and I was told they didn't build any in CA when they had a plant out there as no one out there wanted a boat like that. I was also told they were most popular in northern New England. Maybe due in combination due to the short season and the below average income we have up here. Or people like an old style classic boat?

Tim, Brian's boat has a Velvet Drive? I would have thought that a plus?


Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 3:46pm
If the rumored boat came stripped down like the old Sporsters and came in at 50K with a trailer I'd be right at the dealer. All I'd want is around 350hp, analog gauges, simple stereo, an open bow with a filler cushion, and maybe a tower pending on the additional cost. The less things to break and/or fail the better. Oh and must have a key and toggle switches. The 2000 sport has taught me that valuable lesson.

I've been looking to up grade and if it looks like a prospect it is either too far away and/or sold. Not too many 200s or 200 sports sold in NE. Seems like everyone opted to buy a SAN210.


Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 4:02pm


Like this. Simple trailer, simple stripe. And not in Washington state with 366 hrs and a price of $59,999. Of course no docking lights.


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 4:51pm
Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

How often do you put 4+ slalom skis in a boat unless you are doing a barefoot step line.


About all summer, we have 5 slalom skis in our Sportster. I wouldn't know what a bare floor is like.


Dang, slalom skiing on our lake is mostly useless. It eats up BF time in the morning which is very limited. I use it more now to go distance and wear out my forearms.

200 slalom lake guys (which is where they are primary used) couldn't care less about the lockers I am sure. Every time we ski with the local guys skis are on the floor.

I only know of 2 200s in Indianapolis that aren't used at private lakes. One is trashed and the other guy is a novice skier that started a few years ago.


Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by Bakchose Bakchose wrote:



Like this. Simple trailer, simple stripe. And not in Washington state with 366 hrs and a price of $59,999. Of course no docking lights.


That's the horn not docking lights


Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 5:13pm
At an out the door price of 50K I'll even install the horn myself. LOL.


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

How often do you put 4+ slalom skis in a boat unless you are doing a barefoot step line.


About all summer, we have 5 slalom skis in our Sportster. I wouldn't know what a bare floor is like.


Dang, slalom skiing on our lake is mostly useless. It eats up BF time in the morning which is very limited. I use it more now to go distance and wear out my forearms.



The footers often are out before us, but Tom will usually ski after footing. Dave skis the least of all of us, but enough so we still let him keep his ski in the boat.


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:


Tim, Brian's boat has a Velvet Drive? I would have thought that a plus?

Yup... and definitely not (IMHO).


Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 5:21pm
I love the saddle bags. I like my stuff out of the sun and out of the sightlines of the curious if the boat is parked anywhere.

One side is his, one side is hers. Holds a slalom, vest, rope+handle for each of us, private or public water since we have our own of each item. I can also get my trick ski and line in my side. The kids love jumping off the nice flat Seadek surface. I've had some bigger guys step on them and they are solid. A fun novelty part is that they glow "Ski Nautique" in the dark as they are backlit by LED courtesy lamps in the lockers which shine through the reverse-routed-out letters in the doors themselves.

I definitely enjoy the fact that I was able to take advantage of the very last years of the traditional promo program. And get a 200 w/DI motor which is an incredible mill. Boat had 67hrs when I bought it in September 2016, amazing. Used for barely 5mo that summer. At the time it seemed like an asinine amount of money but it's looking pretty damn cheap now!

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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 6:25pm
The saddle bag storage is something that appealed to me being on a bigger lake. When you are heading 9-10 miles to get to some good water you bring all the gear with you.   Keeping the skis in the boat all the time can also help you get in a nice session of evening glass on the way back from the restaurant.   But sure not of much use in a small lake slalom tractor.   I also swim off my boats a lot in the afternoons and evenings and like those blg flat seadeck gunnels for walking around and doing some sweet backflips.   Too bad I might be too old to do sweet backflips by the time I can afford one… of course maybe I might not be walking around the gunnels if my floor wasn't always covered with ski gear..

I don't see anything leaving a nautique dealership new for 50k.. 62 bone stock, no trailer maybe but I would doubt it.

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Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: October-19-2018 at 6:52pm
Who knows what the pricing will end up at but you can be sure that all of the R&D cost incurred on developing the 200 hull has been taken care of. The original molds were sent from Orlando to Bryant in TN and they are more than capable of producing a good hull. The ZR 4 engine at 400hp is plenty, they'll all have the 1.23 transmission and ZO. What else do you need. People who need more can be well served by another boat Nautique produces.

There are several Class C tournaments within 200 miles of me that are pulled by non promo boats due to reduced promo availability so no big deal there. I think this boat will surprise a lot of folks.


Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-20-2018 at 12:08am
Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

You haven't worked much in a dealership where used boats sell very well because they have depreciated 15-20K after 1 year and 100 hours.



Before you comment on people's experience you might want to know what you are talking about.

BKH



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Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-20-2018 at 12:10am
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

They didn’t sell back then either. IMHO.



Exactly.

BKH

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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-20-2018 at 12:13am
Half priced product usually sells poorly.


Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: October-20-2018 at 12:53am
So all this talk and I’ve upped my search. Found a bare bones 2010. Love the color and have inquired about the hours and if it’s got a trailer. Let’s see what they say. I bought my 2000 sport at 9 yrs ago in the end of October . I’m courious of the inflation pricing


Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-20-2018 at 1:12am
Originally posted by Bakchose Bakchose wrote:

So all this talk and I’ve upped my search. Found a bare bones 2010. Love the color and have inquired about the hours and if it’s got a trailer. Let’s see what they say. I bought my 2000 sport at 9 yrs ago in the end of October . I’m courious of the inflation pricing


I'll be interested to hear your observations. I was looking at 200s when the new 2019 Ski Nautique came out. With the combination of changes to the long-time promo program, and the very high price of the new Ski Nautique, I found that the supply of used 200s went way down, and the price of those available went up.

I'm now talking to people who are thinking about parting with their 200s to buy the new model, but not many actually doing so just yet.

I was approached by many folks offering top of the line Mastercrafts at an attractive price.
Many moved from Nautique because of the changes to the promo program and high price of the new boat. The MCs are nice boats, with many features that I really like. But, I just couldn't bring myself to move to an MC.

I ended up buying a 98 Ski Nautique, which will be fine for our skiing needs until I see the right used 200, find one of the new boats used ( there aren't many in my geography and people are lining up to buy them), or make a decision to buy the new model.

I had also honed in on 2015 or newer, mostly because I prefer the drivers seat after 2015.

BKH

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Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: October-20-2018 at 8:49pm
So I got the details on the 2010. Has a trailer has 1,000 hrs and the asking price is 5 dollars shy of 40k. For the same price I found a boat barely closer for the same money, with a tower, but I will look like a bumble bee. Hours are really low though.. I’m not rich but I make a good living. Who buys these boats? Are they all a result of an equity loan?? I’ve checked the boat loan rates at my credit union. These buyers would be nuts to pay those rates.


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-20-2018 at 9:55pm
Honestly, a 98 SN will outperform about anyone skill set on this site. Quite a few guys are swapping zero off capable engines into that hull. A boat that skis/looks/drives that well with a modern drivetrain and speed control is a no brainer.

Post pics of the new rig.


Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: October-20-2018 at 10:22pm
For me it’s more about being able to be able to get parts when something goes wrong. I couldn’t start my boat because the keypad would not work. Then I went to buy the keypad and the realization is that the other keypad would fail. So I bought both. I just want to stay ahead of the curve on repairs. Aka are there parts available. That’s why I’m on this thread. If its simple it will give years of fun.


Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: October-21-2018 at 1:08pm
@Bakchose as for who buys these boats, I thought the same thing when I was shopping for one. Then I thought if not us, who? We're nuts about this sport and life on the water is where it's at. There's no "good" time to spend 60K+ on a boat and it will never, ever make sense if you're a financial advisor or accountant. So I got over the "logical" mental hurdles and over my fear/pride/ego and got a damn loan for the boat w/a decent down payment. If we fall on hard times, I'll sell it. In the mean time it's been a ton of fun for our family.

When I was shopping it seemed like there were 200's from 2010-2015 from 40-50K, and then you could get a promo boat with full warranty for 55-60K (boy, THOSE were the days, huh?). Seemed like a no brainer for such a big purchase to spend a little more to get WAY more, so the 40K range for an older boat with no warranty actually seemed like the worse option vs. 15-20K more for essentially a new boat. It's a weird market.

I have the "totally paid-for great boat that some folks say is the best hull ever" with our 2000, and I have the "OMG how-could-you-finance-a-boat-you-are-an-idiot" 2016 so I can put a foot in both camps, and both have their merits. Ultimately we have one life to live so it's all about what's important to you and what your family considers a priority here and now.

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-21-2018 at 3:38pm
By taking away the warranty promo program have they not shifted those buyers into a new 200?


Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: October-21-2018 at 4:14pm
Yeah, maybe that's the idea. Thinking a little more about my worn-out "YOLO" speech, I have to say that even 2 years ago interest rates were lower (I think I got 4%?) and prices were what would now be considered basically free as even a Club 200 is probably going to be ~80K new. Even I wouldn't YOLO for 80 grand so I guess I don't know who buys those boats. Really wealthy people and clubs, I guess.

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Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: October-21-2018 at 4:33pm
Nautique has reduced the number of promo inboards to 32. That doesn't include the boats used by Matt Rini, Nate Smith, etc. So going forward there won't be the plethora of boats available for purchase, it was killing retail sales. All the promos with be loaded up and have the 6.2L engine.

That's why I think the Club 200 will be a success. If you're a tournament skier you've got to practice behind the boats pulling tiyrnaments or you're not going to do well. I can see a lot of guys pooling their funds for a boat. Or going to MC, MA.


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 3:10pm
Still no more info?

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Posted By: scotchipman
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 9:54pm
There is now a picture on Ball of Spray again.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 10:11pm
Originally posted by scotchipman scotchipman wrote:

There is now a picture on Ball of Spray again.

Scot,
I went over to BOS and looked and looked without finding the picture. How about a link?

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 10:22pm
https://ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/20006/will-nautique-still-make-the-200

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 10:52pm
Don't bother looking Pete,already gone.......

"Going forward until Nautique has officially announced the new boat or officially published images of the boat I will not allow pictures of the boat to be published here in the forum".

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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 11:28pm
I saw the pictures when they were up and on the side of the boat it said "Atom 200"

It was a late change


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-08-2018 at 12:32am
Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

I saw the pictures when they were up and on the side of the boat it said "Atom 200"

It was a late change


I swear I read “Nautique”. I thought that was strange because is this a Bryant badged as “Nautique” or straight up a Bryant? But I was also looking with my phone.

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Posted By: scotchipman
Date Posted: November-08-2018 at 1:09am
The picture was removed not long after it was posted...


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-08-2018 at 9:17am
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

I saw the pictures when they were up and on the side of the boat it said "Atom 200"

It was a late change


I swear I read “Nautique”. I thought that was strange because is this a Bryant badged as “Nautique” or straight up a Bryant? But I was also looking with my phone.


Those meds must be affecting you, it's the modern updated version of Pete's Atom skier

It did say "Nautique"


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-08-2018 at 9:56am
I think the Bryant guys are adding their own styling touches and that's why the pictures disappear/change.

They were the creators of this beauty after all
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I think the new one will be the Nautique Ski Tractor    

   


Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: November-08-2018 at 11:52am
It will be introduced very soon. I spoke with a dealer and they told me 2 weeks, regardless I think it will sell. The new boat has some fine tuning to be finished. Having skied both I prefer the 200.


Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: November-09-2018 at 7:58pm
I love how many are curious and speculating on this new 200. I love my older CC, but I am still a fan of Nautique and skiing and love to see the passion and enthusiasm for the sport.

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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: November-10-2018 at 1:48pm
About the only occasional regret I have with my 93 is the lack of a rear seat. Although, the floor space there makes more room for gear. And, it's also not getting stepped on when people are getting on and off the boat after skiing etc. I got a portable seat from West Marine and I throw that in there on the rare occasions we really need it.

I'm glad it doesn't have some of the bells and whistles of the time, shower, radio, Pro-Tec, etc. Seems like more stuff to break on a 25+ year old boat.

A little more storage would be welcome, but the boat would have to be bigger for that, which I'm also glad it's not.


Posted By: Faceplant
Date Posted: November-10-2018 at 8:12pm
My backseat is removed about 80% of the time . More room for gear - fatsacs etc. I also like the lack of bells and whistles also . Keep it simple .

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Posted By: scotchipman
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 12:19pm
The new 200 is finally up on their web page, looks sweet!

Now I want to know if the hull is changed or not from the old 200? They make it sound like it is not the same hull as the old 200?

https://www.nautique.com/models/nautique-200" rel="nofollow - https://www.nautique.com/models/nautique-200





Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by scotchipman scotchipman wrote:

The new 200 is finally up on their web page, looks sweet!

Now I want to know if the hull is changed or not from the old 200? They make it sound like it is not the same hull as the old 200?

https://www.nautique.com/models/nautique-200" rel="nofollow - https://www.nautique.com/models/nautique-200

Nice with one exception. Pulling the TUBE!!!

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 12:34pm
Looks the same except for the side storage. Have they released the price?

Pete, when the kids are in a tube, at least they're behind the boat and not on land looking at their phones. A giant step closer to being on skis.


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 1:12pm
Skip the tube step altogether and go straight to the skis

Lots of wasted interior/floor space with that deck


Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 1:25pm
Hmm. May do better than I originally thought. Will be interesting to watch.
A lot will hinge on price.

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 1:26pm
I like it. Surprised it weighs in at a whopping 3400 lbs.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:


looking at their phones. .

That's for sure.

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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 1:49pm
Seems odd they didn't use up any of the storage that is clearly blocked off by the gigantic white fiberglass interior sides where pockets would normally be. It does look more ski boaty without the side storage pods in the rear.


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 2:22pm
I do like drivers seat, phone books are impossible to find now days. Will not be lower than 80k

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:


looking at their phones. .

That's for sure.


I can’t stand this. Kids are no longer raised by parents but rather IPads.
I’m with most, the deck has killed a lot of space. I feel like my 93 has a better setup. Also feel like this is a Sport Nautique all over again but maybe that’s what they were shooting for. But it definitely looks better than the 2019 Stealth Bomber Ski Nautique.

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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 2:56pm
Originally posted by scotchipman scotchipman wrote:

The new 200 is finally up on their web page, looks sweet!

Now I want to know if the hull is changed or not from the old 200? They make it sound like it is not the same hull as the old 200?



And what makes you think anybody on this site knows any more than you could find out from watching the videos ?

It's not exactly the bare bones stripped down version that it seems people were hoping for

I do have to admit though, it has pretty much everything on it that I don't want on a boat


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 3:07pm
Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

About the only occasional regret I have with my 93 is the lack of a rear seat. Although, the floor space there makes more room for gear. And, it's also not getting stepped on when people are getting on and off the boat after skiing etc. I got a portable seat from West Marine and I throw that in there on the rare occasions we really need it..


My 93 has a portable jump seat that I’ve only seen in one other 93. I love it. Without I have more open space than any SN I’ve been in then that once or twice a year I need a back seat I drop it in and it doesn’t look universal or out of place. Upholstery lines look like a normal 93 back seat.

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Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 4:09pm
What I like in my ‘93 is the missing middle cushion. It works great for access, but people can still sit in the corners. That said, this new 200 looks awesome. Clean lines, great driver-focused helm, and - it is a ski machine! Interesting to see it pull tubes in that video on a private ski site. Lol. Marketing....

So, if you want a closed-bow machine you get the funky-looking Ski, but if you want an open bow you get the 200?

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 4:15pm
^^^ from what I understand Stealth Nautique is tournament approved, 200 is not.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

^^^ from what I understand Stealth Nautique is tournament approved, 200 is not.

Time to read up.

https://www.nautique.com/models/nautique-200" rel="nofollow - nautique.com


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 4:24pm
From what I now understand both are tournament approved.

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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 4:33pm
Website says AWSA approved.


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 5:07pm
I like what I see. Not as bare bones as Ken said, but like the comments above that, a super bare bones boat probably wouldnt sell real well, like the 93. This may be a good boat for serious skiers who dont have the 1oo Gs for a new "Ski Nautique" Like Brian said, a lot will hinge on price. If its too high, the non 100 K skiers will opt for used boats. Will have to be a pretty reasonable savings from the stealth bomber. Maybe it will be a similar relationship like between the 210/230 and the Gs. Everyone wants a G, but some people get the 210/230 for pricing purposes. Me, if I had the dough and was interested in a wake boat would probably get the 210 anyway. Too old school for the barge lines of the Gs.

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Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 5:08pm
Maybe they brought it back realizing that the barges they are currently making are just too big for all of the little lakes and ponds out there. It will be interesting to see what the price ends up being


Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 5:29pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

I do like drivers seat, phone books are impossible to find now days. Will not be lower than 80k


Not below $90k.
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Posted By: man0seven
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 5:35pm
79k MSRP



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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 5:51pm
Yeah, 79,000 base pricing. Likely doesn't include destination fees or trailer.

They picked a humdinger of a color scheme for the main advertising boat, looks basically all white when in the water and was the #1 boat N3 had in inventory the longest of any. Everyone just looked at it then said "Nah I will order my own". Which was all of about 3 buyers.

I think it was a 12 we finally sold in 2015. Even Mars man passed on it back then IIRC.


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 7:40pm
It's kind of a porker

It looks like it weighs 550 pounds more than the 2018 SN 200   

3400 vs 2850 pounds dry weight    


Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

It's kind of a porker

It looks like it weighs 550 pounds more than the 2018 SN 200   

3400 vs 2850 pounds dry weight    


The tower is standard? That the extra weight?.................

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Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 8:26pm
Tower is not standard.


Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 8:40pm
Did the closed bow version save that much weight? Does carbon fiber or lack thereof cause that much weight differential?


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by Air206 Air206 wrote:

Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

It's kind of a porker

It looks like it weighs 550 pounds more than the 2018 SN 200   

3400 vs 2850 pounds dry weight    


The tower is standard? That the extra weight?.................


According to the video it's 3300 pounds without the tower and 3400 with the tower.

A lot heavier either way than the 2018 SN200. The open bow and closed bow versions both weigh the same 2850


Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 9:22pm
With a nearly 20% weight gain, I wonder what that’s going to do to the wake.


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 9:30pm
Originally posted by tryathlete tryathlete wrote:

Did the closed bow version save that much weight? Does carbon fiber or lack thereof cause that much weight differential?


The carbon fiber didn't show up until the 2019 SN.so that's got nothing to do with the weight gain of the club 200 over the 200's from years past


Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 9:52pm
I don't get it either. Figured it was the same hull, which would make sense, why not monetize that proven hull design and not go into R&D for much of anything new to keep the price down. I can't see where the 500 lbs. is hiding, or why it is a good idea.

In terms of the boat and how it will sell, I don't have a clue about the marketing etc. like Zach or someone else that spent time in a dealership does, but to me they could have slotted in the 200 Ski at a lower price point to the new Ski, just left out some or many of the goodies which would steer many/most new boat customers to the new version. But what do I know.

I do think it's a good looking boat.

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Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: November-12-2018 at 9:56pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

I do like drivers seat, phone books are impossible to find now days. Will not be lower than 80k


At 80K, I'd spend the extra buy the new top of the line ski boat. That's just me.

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Posted By: rebel skier
Date Posted: November-13-2018 at 7:00pm
I like it.

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Posted By: JD ski
Date Posted: November-14-2018 at 10:46pm
Nautique finally made a great looking boat again. At about $55,000 instead of a starting at price of $79,000 they would sell as many of those as they could make. I would even suggest returning to analog gauges. Simplicity adds to reliability. Order without the roll-bar as it does not look good and places the bimini to high above the driver compartment to provide much shading for the driver. I also like that it looks like my 1999 Air Nautique with a Sea Deck Interior. I am feeling like I stole my boat compared to these asking prices. This is the only boat (by appearance only) that Nautique has made in many years that I would consider buying if their pricing was more inline with what I suggested.

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-15-2018 at 9:07am
Don't Nautiques typically sell for MSRP less 15%-20%? So that puts this boat in the $60's?

Malibu had their "camp boat" at the Boston boat show last year and it was in the low $50's for the boat show. The 200 is a far nice boat than that and well worth the extra $10k.


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-15-2018 at 9:19am
I’ll be happy when this sea dek craze is over.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-15-2018 at 10:03am
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

I’ll be happy when this sea dek craze is over.


and the ship lap interior walls of houses especially kitchens!

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-15-2018 at 10:13am
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

I’ll be happy when this sea dek craze is over.


It is a bit overdone.


Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-15-2018 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

I’ll be happy when this sea dek craze is over.


It is a bit overdone.


And it doesn't last, my boat is 6 years old and I'm replacing all of it this winter. Brown is faded to a light tan and looks terrible. My boat is stored indoors,, only in the sun when being used on the weekend. Can't imagine what happens to a Florida boat.



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