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Topic: Orlando 76 man down
Posted By: DVskier
Subject: Orlando 76 man down
Date Posted: October-27-2018 at 5:47pm
Our friend Orlando 76 had an accident coming off 5 ball yesterday morning and broke his leg. I'm sure he'd appreciate your thoughts and prayers during this critical time. Due to be operated on tomorrow for a spiral fracture, his back foot came out of his Wiley high wrap and the front foot stayed in. Show him we care please.

Thanks.



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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-27-2018 at 6:09pm
Todd,
Best wishes on the operation tomorrow as well as a speedy recovery. Stay in touch with the progress.

BTW, maybe they can wrap it with some Flex Tape to hold it together. I hear that Autozone is even carrying it now.

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-27-2018 at 6:55pm
Ouch that hurts! Good luck Todd. I had the same break many years ago and was off work from November til Christmas. Every month my doctor would say well you can go back to work. I’d say you mean I can climb poles and ladders? He go oh no come back in a month. Spent the whole winter in the office, co workers would ask when you coming back outside, I’d say when it’s above 40. Stayed in until April 😀. Again good luck Todd

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Posted By: jimsport93
Date Posted: October-27-2018 at 7:14pm
Sorry to hear of your injury Todd.
Praying for a successful surgery and your speedy recovery !

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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-27-2018 at 8:41pm
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

A good coating of flex seal should do the trick. You can buy it at any Home Depot store, maybe even AutoZone.
from Pete's gas tank thread

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Todd,
Best wishes on the operation tomorrow as well as a speedy recovery. Stay in touch with the progress.

BTW, maybe they can wrap it with some Flex Tape to hold it together. I hear that Autozone is even carrying it now.


One good dig deserves another

If you're reading this Todd, I'd say it was bad karma for getting a dig in on Pete, but we know that can't be the case otherwise every bone in my body would be broken............... probably multiple times   

Good luck and a have speedy recovery but don't rush it.


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-27-2018 at 10:52pm
Thanks for the thoughts guy. Pete, thanks for the chuckle I needed it. I have Dr. Guru (yes that’s really his name) getting in touch with Pete tonight to verify the quality of stainless hardware is up to spec, I don’t want any backyard hack job 410 SS. Shattered my RFF tibia, broke the fibula, and the top part of the ankle plate, whatever the heck that’s called. I’m not sure where I went wrong, Not knowing where I went wrong has me a little nervous. I was feeling good and wasn’t in trouble then when I crossed the second wake it’s like the tail blew out and the ski helicoptered my foot in two. In the fall I felt my back foot release but could never get my front to pull out. When I looked at my foot I was staring at the bottom of my ski. I calmly told Ted I need help. Luckily my ski partner Ted is an anesthetist with lots of trauma experience and he knew what to do. He had to cut the binding off. I got on the trunk and idled back to the house where he had the ambulance waiting at the dock, he already called the leading trauma surgeon for the area and told him what happened and he was waiting for me at the ER. I owe a lot to Ted, I hope everybody has a friend like him. This hurts like hell and has hit at a really bad time as my 45 day old son has been in a different hospital since birth and has another 6 weeks or so to go, which is 50 miles away from me. My Wife needs a medal.

One advise I’d like to give is always make sure in your boat you have something to cut a ski binding off in emergency. My boat doesn’t but luckily Teds did.

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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: October-28-2018 at 1:27am
God Bless Todd - hoping for the best for you and your Family. Try and get some sleep...

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Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: October-28-2018 at 3:08am
Wow, that is a really tough break at a really hard time for your family. I hope both you and your son get home soon and can start mending.   You will laugh about this someday but it will not be soon. That is great that you had a good and qualified friend in the boat, it could have been worse. Hang in there.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-28-2018 at 5:42am
Yikes, that sounds like no fun. Hope you have a speedy recovery.

Dual highwrap Wiley’s?


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-28-2018 at 7:27am
Yeah dual high wraps

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Posted By: NCH20SKIER
Date Posted: October-28-2018 at 10:24am
Sounds like a nasty one. A buddy of mine had a similar sounding crash on a local private lake - a couple of surgery's later that ski (and the double high wraps) were sold.

Hoping for a speedy recovery

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Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: October-28-2018 at 10:44am
Damn Bro... Hurts me just thinking about it and makes my knee twinge just a little bit. Pete might be able to get you a discount on the stainless hardware if you ask him nicely. Good tip on having a knife in the boat with you. I keep a leatherman in the glovebox for cutting ropes of the shaft and prop but never a binding. Many of us are blessed and lucky to have each other as ski partners as when things go wrong they're there to help and know better how to handle a situation. Heal quickly Todd and Hey; look at the bright side of this accident........ It happened in the fall instead of the spring.

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Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: October-28-2018 at 1:17pm
Oh Todd, seeing the bottom of your ski says a lot! I’ve always wondered how wrong things can go if the back foot comes out and the ski helicopters on ya. Scary to think of it and worse to see it actually happen.

I truly hope you’re a fast healer so you can get back to helping the rest of the family and put this behind you!


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-28-2018 at 10:58pm
Since you're on the site right now, how'd the operation go today?


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-28-2018 at 11:11pm
I hadn’t spoken with the surgeon yet. Evidently it was pretty bad but the bad part was more in the leg, not the ankle. Which is better for healing and long term.i guess there’s a plate on the one bone, a tee shaped plate on the big bone. And a dozen or so screws. Two incisions. They did a nerve block so I’m feeling no pain and I’m not doped up either. I had enough narcotics since Friday morning, nice to get a break. Haha, break. Bad news is my inlaws came down to help out.

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 12:29am
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

Haha, break. Bad news is my inlaws came down to help out.

Ok this has me laughing. Best of luck with the recovery. Mentally you sound well.


Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 4:29am
Brace yourself, when that pain block wears off, or they take it away it will get tough for a few days.
Enjoy the block as long as they let you have it. That stuff is magic.
You are correct about the Long Bones, they look terrible in a serious break but they usually heal 100% pretty quick. A severely torn up ankle could give you trouble for a very long time. Sounds like you will be in ski shape again soon and able to prance around with your newborn.

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 5:00am
Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

Brace yourself, when that pain block wears off, or they take it away it will get tough.

Oh it’s now worn off and you are very correct. It hurts like hell now.

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 9:46am
I'm really sorry to hear that. Sounds extremely painful and disabling. I hope you recover quickly. What kind of tool to cut the binding off. That sounds like a tricky job?



Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 9:53am
Brutal, hang in there! A good friend of ours missed a step going down the stairs at night, totally shattered both tib/fib. One of them was "dusted", as the surgeon described. The MRI and images were sickening, lots of hardware. Seriously gross. Two surgeries, external fixation, the whole bit. This was in July and she's walking around now. Keep in mind this is someone in their late 30's who is otherwise healthy, just missed a step going down the stairs and blam. Disaster. Doesn't even have to be a ski or binding incident!

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Posted By: Smithfamily
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 10:05am
Sorry about the bum luck Todd. Speedy recovery!! Im in Apopka if you need anything? Which lake were you skiing on?
Jerry
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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 10:31am
Yeah Joel I know it’s a matter of hitting things just right which is scarier when it happens to you because you don’t know how to do it different next time.

Ted used the scissors we have for working on the course, maybe regular scissors but the maybe medical scissors for cutting bandages. He said the binding was surprisingly easy to cut.

Jerry I was on Lake Ola, Ted lives on the lake, I live across the street. In fact I think you looked at buying the house in front of mine at some point? I’m at Waterman Hospital which isn’t really my first choice (and out of network) but was closest and Ted personally knew and always recommended this surgeon.

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Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 10:43am
In a texting convo I had with Todd yesterday I jokingly reminded him of CCFan policy about Pics or it didn't happen ...His response was this......








It's nasty for sure...Todd send me the after pics and I'll get them posted...

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Posted By: woodyelc
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 10:44am
Prayers to you and the family. Hope all comes out OK.

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Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 10:47am
Oh, that's not too bad. You'll heal up quickly.

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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 11:29am
Sorry to hear this Todd, Rest up and get well, hope you and your son get home soon.


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 11:50am
Yikes, get that thing healed up quickly!


Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 12:00pm
oh man.... That sucks... Hope you heal up soon..

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Posted By: NCH20SKIER
Date Posted: October-29-2018 at 2:17pm
that's ugly

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Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: October-30-2018 at 12:49am
Yikes! Ouch! Speedy recovery to you.

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Posted By: Smithfamily
Date Posted: October-30-2018 at 9:18am
Lake Ola. Yes, the house with the RV "carport". I know your house, often ride that way on the motorcycle, That's a nasty break. Get well quick.

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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: October-30-2018 at 12:32pm
Best wishes Todd, that hurts for me to look at! Awesome that you had such a capable friend with you to get you to help quickly.

Also hope your son is well and gets home soon to be with you! If anything gets you up and about quickly it will be the little kid.

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: October-31-2018 at 11:05pm



Theres the stringers getting scabbed together.

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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: October-31-2018 at 11:20pm
Holy stainless shinbone! That looks complex!

Hope you are managing the pain. Right leg or left?

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Posted By: IAughtNaut
Date Posted: November-01-2018 at 12:50am
yikes

speedy recovery

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Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: November-01-2018 at 8:12am
Wow....Todd "T-800" Varhol.....

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-01-2018 at 9:20am
Todd,
I too react with WOW!! They sure did put some metal in there. I see they didn't put any screws in the area where the bone is really shattered. I suppose there's not much to screw into. Will they be going in again? Best wishes on the recovery.

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Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: November-01-2018 at 2:41pm
Geez man. I'm always freaked out about ski injuries.

Get well soon!

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-01-2018 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Todd,
I see they didn't put any screws in the area where the bone is really shattered. I suppose there's not much to screw into. Will they be going in again? .

The ideal choice was to drive a rod just below the knee all the way down inside the bone but evidently there were too many pieces for that so they went with a titanium plate which to me looks like a universal hurricane strap. The longer strap has something going on towards the ankle but hadn’t figured it out yet. One would think around the many broken pieces there would be hose clamps keeping it together or a Chinese basket. People who have seen these X-rays and are somewhat in the know are pleased with what they see and say there’s good alignment. Less than 0.003 gap at the coupler. Plan is to keep everything in unless these problems down the road. My question is what keeps the screws from wobbling out like in sheet metal? Or does the bone grown around the screws and the screws essentially act like rebar in concrete making it stronger?

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-01-2018 at 3:54pm
Tod,
We have plenty of this in my dept. at the HD!



Then in the hardware dept. plenty of Tapcons.





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Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: November-01-2018 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Tod,
We have plenty of this in my dept. at the HD!



Then in the hardware dept. plenty of Tapcons.





Ya—hopefully the doc used titanium and didn’t shop at Pete’s to make a few extra bucks!


Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: November-01-2018 at 5:43pm
The bone will grow and your screws should stay put for life.   Sometimes it is better to pull the hardware out after the bone heals but that is not always the case for sure.
Many people are walking around with hardware.
I met a 72 year old that has broken his ankle a few times water skiing. I believe he has the current course record for a 72 year old. I think it was a couple balls at 38 off.
He showed me his ski.   He has a custom made snap in plate now so if he falls his plate with both feet in it separates from the ski.   He said he has never had an injury since making his plate.   He is a hobby machinist and proudly showed his contraption.
It was very high quality and I bet expensive to make but it allows him to ski.
I met him at random, he had some parts for sale on Craigs List I needed, I saw a Nautique poster on his garage wall and mentioned owning my second Nautique.
It made for a very interesting stop.
BTW: I was buying a Trailer Hitch for my 1966 Corvette, I thought it would be cool to be able to pull our Nautique with the 66 some day when I get it back on the road.
This guy pulled his Nautique with his 1967 Big Block Corvette, said it got only about 6 MPG. I believe he said it was built to about 600 HP, He sold the car and kept the hitch. They are no longer available so I was happy to find it.

Heal fast and follow the Dr. Orders, he/she will know how long the bone needs to heal and be strong again.

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Posted By: Smithfamily
Date Posted: November-02-2018 at 9:45am
Originally posted by tryathlete tryathlete wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Tod,
We have plenty of this in my dept. at the HD!



Then in the hardware dept. plenty of Tapcons.





Ya—hopefully the doc used titanium and didn’t shop at Pete’s to make a few extra bucks!


This created a visual in my sick mind......6-8 Doctors dressed in green scrubs, in the HD, "Pete's Aisle", all patiently waiting to speak to Pete to purchase screws and straps.....

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-02-2018 at 11:04am
Had an educational conversation with the representative of the company who makes the hardware, he was present during surgery and called me this morning. Some of the interesting things I learned:

1. The area where there’s no screws because the tibia is in too many pieces. I asked why not put hose clamps around that area. Well the do in extreme cases but there’s blood vessels that run along the bone/in the bone and clamping it kills blood flow.

2. Due to the contours of the plates I assumed it was a bendable hurricane strap essentially. He said no, the plate is unbendable. 90% of the people have the exact same contour of that part of the leg so the plates are generically made.

3. I’m still unclear on whether the screws get loose in the bone or if the bone calcifies around the screws but the screws are essentially indexed to the plate so once they bottom out when being tightened they click and lock into place and will never back out of the plate.

4. The bottom of the tib and fib becomes another bone, lateral malleolous and medial malleolous which I broke as well. Those bones are what keeps your ankle from turning upward left or right. Hence, why I could see the bottom of my ski pointing to the sky while it was still on my foot.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-02-2018 at 11:49am
Originally posted by Smithfamily Smithfamily wrote:

Originally posted by tryathlete tryathlete wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Tod,

Then in the hardware dept. plenty of Tapcons.





Ya—hopefully the doc used titanium and didn’t shop at Pete’s to make a few extra bucks!


This created a visual in my sick mind......6-8 Doctors dressed in green scrubs, in the HD, "Pete's Aisle", all patiently waiting to speak to Pete to purchase screws and straps.....

The Tapcon picture I used was chosen because it's the stainless version!

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Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: November-02-2018 at 11:56am
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Smithfamily Smithfamily wrote:

Originally posted by tryathlete tryathlete wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Tod,

Then in the hardware dept. plenty of Tapcons.






Ya—hopefully the doc used titanium and didn’t shop at Pete’s to make a few extra bucks!


This created a visual in my sick mind......6-8 Doctors dressed in green scrubs, in the HD, "Pete's Aisle", all patiently waiting to speak to Pete to purchase screws and straps.....

The Tapcon picture I used was chosen because it's the stainless version!


It was the galvanized strapping that had me most concerned!


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: November-02-2018 at 3:55pm
Wow Todd. What a mess. Sorry that this happened, but glad you seem to be on the mend. I guess we all know there are risks, but we certainly dont think something like this will happen. I cant help but think of Steve Kutsch and what happened to him every time I suit up. Interesting cause, that that rear foot came out, allowing ski to "Helicopter" the front foot.
I have an old binding so I slip out of it pretty easily. This kind of out the front at the ball is



pretty harmless compared to a fall at the acceleration point across the wake. Here is a spill by one of the New England guys, but I dont know if it was Brad, Ken, Tim or Keith. It was one of them as we were out as a group at Brad's one night.



This is from Keith's "northeast amateurs" video on youtube he did back in 07 or 08.   I'm glad I popped out. One of the skis I test drove lately had the hard shell boot with the release. I took a spill on that and the boot popped off, which is a good idea. I think about this stuff as I ponder new bindings and ski.

Sorry. Didnt mean to threadjack too badly. Get better, Todd.


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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-02-2018 at 4:24pm
Larry I would only consider a release system such as the MOB from now on and I would say the same for you. I used to feel release setups were for short line skiers. Man if I could go back a week ago..... I somehow slipped out at peak acceleration. As if I got lean locked and couldn’t transition for the pre turn. I know for certain the Ski was always in front of me. I keep thinking about one of my ski partners. He’s upper 59 maybe 60, won some national titles in the 90’s and he skis mid -39 with a Reflex black Hardshell bolted to a plate bolted to the ski, no release mechanism. He stands zero chance of pulling out in a fall. For years we’ve tried talking him into a release, even bought him one but he refuses.

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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-06-2018 at 9:00pm
Dang Todd, so sorry to hear about this :( One of my scariest falls was my front released and the back didn't, doh. Hurt for a while but no break, I was lucky. Ditched the back boot for a toe plate and never looked back.
I am going on the carving table myself next month, right hip replacement Dec 20, Left on Feb 28, I should come down to FLA and we can have walker races.
Cheers to a speedy recovery!!

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Posted By: Smithfamily
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 9:28am
Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Dang Todd, so sorry to hear about this :( One of my scariest falls was my front released and the back didn't, doh. Hurt for a while but no break, I was lucky. Ditched the back boot for a toe plate and never looked back.
I am going on the carving table myself next month, right hip replacement Dec 20, Left on Feb 28, I should come down to FLA and we can have walker races.
Cheers to a speedy recovery!!

Walker races. There may be some entertainment value in that! Naturally there will have to be alcohol involved. Good luck on the hip!!

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 9:54am
Idk how people with a hip or knee replacement walk on it within 24 hours. That’s insane. Wouldn’t be much of a fair fight, by the time CQ goes under the knife I’ll have plenty of walker practice. I just need more stamina now, the story of my life. Good luck CQ.

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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 10:04am
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

Had an educational conversation with the representative of the company who makes the hardware, he was present during surgery and called me this morning. Some of the interesting things I learned:

1. The area where there’s no screws because the tibia is in too many pieces. I asked why not put hose clamps around that area. Well the do in extreme cases but there’s blood vessels that run along the bone/in the bone and clamping it kills blood flow.

2. Due to the contours of the plates I assumed it was a bendable hurricane strap essentially. He said no, the plate is unbendable. 90% of the people have the exact same contour of that part of the leg so the plates are generically made.

3. I’m still unclear on whether the screws get loose in the bone or if the bone calcifies around the screws but the screws are essentially indexed to the plate so once they bottom out when being tightened they click and lock into place and will never back out of the plate.

4. The bottom of the tib and fib becomes another bone, lateral malleolous and medial malleolous which I broke as well. Those bones are what keeps your ankle from turning upward left or right. Hence, why I could see the bottom of my ski pointing to the sky while it was still on my foot.


yep, the screws can indeed back out. depends how hard you go after the therapy.. My daughter shattered her elbow once and two screws backed out so far they damn near poked back out of the skin. her's were supposed to be taken out eventually so maybe they didn't use the red lock tight on those???

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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 10:33am
Todd -

Sorry to see this. Heal quick and listen to the PT instructions. It makes or breaks the repair outcome.

The repair looks really good! The doc even used a long cancellous bone screw where he should (angled long one with different thread pitch). It is a very interesting and versatile plate that was used on the tibia. (Ours are a little smaller). I'm sure you'll be tap-dancing on it in a few months.......

Here's to a speedy recovery!

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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 11:29am
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

The area where there’s no screws because the tibia is in too many pieces.




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Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 12:03pm
Hate to hear about injuries like this.   Hope you heal up soon. I have several screws in my ankle. Once it healed I haven't had any problems. A buddy of mine snapped his femur in half behind my boat and he was snow skiing six months later.

As far as binding systems go I have the Goode "velcro" system with Wileys boots. I don't course ski anymore so I hardly ever fall and have never had the bindings release but potentially they should release during a bad fall. Maybe others have had some experience and can comment.

http://store.goode.com/powerplate-rubber-boots-system/" rel="nofollow - Goode binding plate


Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by Smithfamily Smithfamily wrote:

Walker races. There may be some entertainment value in that! Naturally there will have to be alcohol involved. Good luck on the hip!!

I found a preview of the race ..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csuZHyW-iGI" rel="nofollow - Orlando 76 vs. Quinner race

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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 2:19pm
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:


1. The area where there’s no screws because the tibia is in too many pieces. I asked why not put hose clamps around that area. Well, they do in extreme cases but there are blood vessels that run along the bone/in the bone and clamping it kills blood flow.

2. Due to the contours of the plates I assumed it was a bendable hurricane strap essentially. He said no, the plate is unbendable. 90% of the people have the exact same contour of that part of the leg so the plates are generically made.

3. I’m still unclear on whether the screws get loose in the bone or if the bone calcifies around the screws but the screws are essentially indexed to the plate so once they bottom out when being tightened they click and lock into place and will never back out of the plate.


That's the beauty of the plate - it gives stability without the need to deal with the fragments. The hoses clamp concept is used more in situations like barrel straps (they are called "cerclage wire" BTW). Plates are much better for initial weight-bearing..... and you DON'T want that plate to be bendable!

Our screws don't lock into the plate...... backing out isn't the issue, it is bone dying or becoming infected around the screw holes. Fast drills with worn bits burn bone. Metal under the skin LOVES to get infected especially around open wounds. They will keep looking for issues..... the vast majority of the time, all goes well and plates and screws stay put without issues.


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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 2:53pm
One great thing is the PT nurse that comes to the house said the surgeon has a 0% infection rate so far. I would think a lot of that is because of the hospital too, not solely the surgeon. And I’ll be honest, I’ve always doubted this particular hospital and was very hesitant to go there but I knew my friend wouldn’t steer me wrong with the surgeon.

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-07-2018 at 3:03pm
Something I found comical:
My son has been at a different hospital this whole time. When I got to see him on my second day out from hospital. It was me in my wheel chair withthe walker in tow, wifey poo, and my young but 70/71 year old father in law who’s in great shape and looks good. To get into the hospital you have to go through security, cancer causing metal detectors, TSA has to search whatever cavities youmay have etc. We get through all that and the security guard opens up the walker and hands it to my father in law, attempts to help him and says “here’s your walker sir” I couldn’t stop laughing.

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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-18-2018 at 12:41am
OMGosh...I hurt the whole time I read this thread.

Hoping you heal quickly and smoothly.



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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-29-2018 at 11:18pm
how about an update Todd?



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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: November-30-2018 at 9:41am
I'm doing great thanks for asking. About ten days ago I had the surgical splint removed along with the approximate 65 staples. Have a hard cast now and an all terrain knee scooter which has totally improved my mobility around the house and yard. No pain but I feel like a house arrest inmate with an ankle bracelet. Going back on the 19th for another X-ray and maybe a new cast, maybe a walking boot.


And keeping up with my tradition I couldn't turn down a purple cast.


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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-30-2018 at 9:56am
You'll have to put that up on some V blocks and check the run out but it looks pretty straight from here.   Keep the good spirits man you're doing great.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-30-2018 at 10:17am
Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

You'll have to put that up on some V blocks and check the run out but it looks pretty straight from here.   


Yup, the runout shouldn't exceed .003 inches.

Keep moving forward Todd.

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Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: November-30-2018 at 7:26pm
Dang, dude. You have my sympathies. Those staples and incisions will leave some killer railroad track scars. Best wishes.

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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: December-18-2018 at 11:55am
Tib - Fib fracture. Taking an EMT course, which is part of the reason I haven't been on the site, much. We learned a lot about that stuff. I guess it's pretty common for both bones to break together, if one is going to go.

I wish you the best on your recovery.


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: July-11-2019 at 8:37pm
BOOYAH!!!! This guy just got the all clear from the doctor to go back to skiing! Longest 8.5 months of my life.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-11-2019 at 9:51pm
Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

BOOYAH!!!! This guy just got the all clear from the doctor to go back to skiing! Longest 8.5 months of my life.



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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: July-12-2019 at 10:46am
Great news Todd. Glad to hear you can get back out there and fulfill your duties as president of the "pull my arms in excessively at 5 ball for no apparent reason" club.

Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

I see Larry’s a member of the “I pull my arms in excessively at 5 ball for no apparent reason club”. I am your club president.


That actually carries some bitter sweet memories for you, well maybe just bitter, as I went back and reread this thread to be reminded that it was ball 5 that ate your lunch.

Let's be careful out there.

As some of you may recall, I got a new to me ski for this year. It has a leather lace up boot, which I have never had before. Thinking of Todd and Val Karras, I was a little nervous about it not coming off and doing something similar to my ankle. I was pleased to learn after a couple OTFs that this ski will pop off as needed, so I am feeling a little better about it.

Go get it Todd.

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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: July-12-2019 at 12:07pm
Todd, that is great news, the whole rehab experience can be so long and frustrating. Has to feel good to get the "all-clear"!

I think about your injury, and others, not that I'm worried and skiing differently, just comes to mind at times when I do an almost OTF. Of course always happens when I'm tired so trying to a bit more solid physically from start to finish of the run.

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Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: July-12-2019 at 1:52pm
Wow glad you are recovering. I’ve never seen a waterskiing injury like that. How fast were you traveling


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: July-13-2019 at 12:04am
Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

Wow glad you are recovering. I’ve never seen a waterskiing injury like that. How fast were you traveling


I was at centerline so the fastest point of the arc, boat was running 32.

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Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: July-13-2019 at 12:06am
Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Great news Todd. Glad to hear you can get back out there and fulfill your duties as president of the "pull my arms in excessively at 5 ball for no apparent reason" club.

Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

I see Larry’s a member of the “I pull my arms in excessively at 5 ball for no apparent reason club”. I am your club president.


That actually carries some bitter sweet memories for you, well maybe just bitter, as I went back and reread this thread to be reminded that it was ball 5 that ate your lunch.

Let's be careful out there.

As some of you may recall, I got a new to me ski for this year. It has a leather lace up boot, which I have never had before. Thinking of Todd and Val Karras, I was a little nervous about it not coming off and doing something similar to my ankle. I was pleased to learn after a couple OTFs that this ski will pop off as needed, so I am feeling a little better about it.

Go get it Todd.


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Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: July-13-2019 at 10:51am
Great News Todd. Go easy the first 5 minutes will ya!

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