Believed to be 78 Martinique
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Topic: Believed to be 78 Martinique
Posted By: bharris6
Subject: Believed to be 78 Martinique
Date Posted: April-05-2019 at 1:37pm
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About a year ago my uncle told me I could have his old boat if I still wanted it. Its a Martinique that I believe is a 1978 model. I posted on here about a year ago when I found out but cannot find the original post. Long story short I am now getting to where I am going to start tinkering with. I went and checked it over again last weekend and the engine mount bolts where snug and didn't turn, floor felt good. I first thing I want to do is see if I can get the motor to fire up as its been sitting for about 4 years. Unfortunately last weekend I did not think to take a picture of the engine or get numbers off of it. My question to yall is what motor was normally in these boats. It had a 193, 187 or something like that on the valve cover. I apologize for the lack of information and any information I would be greatly appreciate. |
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Posted By: bharris6
Date Posted: April-05-2019 at 1:46pm
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Posted By: Fabcon
Date Posted: April-05-2019 at 2:05pm
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Very nice boat, a picture of the motor would help. Could be a ford 302, 351 or Chevy 350. I am sure some one on her will have a good Idea of what it could be. Should be a fun boat. ------------- 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1984 Barefoot Nautique (Parting Out) |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: April-05-2019 at 2:09pm
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With that horsepower reading its probably a Ford 302 of some sort. Various marinizations were used back then. Commander, Escort, Crusader, Waukesha, etc. You will want to probably pull the spark plugs and turn the engine over by hand to make sure it spins freely. Also, before starting I would change the oil and pre prime the oil pump since it's been sitting. This involves removal of the distributor and we can all walk you though that. Start with getting some photos of the engine up here so we can identify it and recommend further maintenance. Good looking boat ! |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: April-05-2019 at 2:39pm
From the CCF lost and found department, click on the link and you'll have your original thread complete with engine info  http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41411&KW=&title=new-member" rel="nofollow - link |
bharris6 wrote:Posted By: swilliams
Date Posted: April-05-2019 at 10:20pm
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My 76’ Martinique has the Chevy 350 @ 260hp. I don’t care much for the proprietary raw water pump but it still functions. Loads of power pretty much trouble free..Keep an eye on the water temps though. ------------- 1976 Martinique,350 Omc. 1975 Glastron/Carlson CV16,115 Merc. |
Posted By: bharris6
Date Posted: April-08-2019 at 1:38pm
| I will get some pictures of the motor and numbers when I go back over there in a couple weeks. The other thing I noticed when I was looking over the boat is that on the back corner where the sun hits for most of the day the gel coat looks to be flaking. What would be the best remedy for this? |
Posted By: bharris6
Date Posted: May-13-2019 at 11:20am
      I was able to get back up to the lake this weekend and check the boat out some more. I checked all the engine mount bolts and all were tight and didn't spin. I also took some pictures of the motor. Also wanted to know if the spacers in the picture under the engine mount are original or not? Thanks for the help. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: May-13-2019 at 11:43am
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Somebody took that 351 you thought you were familiar with and turned it into a Small Block Chevy The 198 Mercruiser was a 305 cu in Chevy engine |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: May-13-2019 at 12:03pm
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The link below might be handy for parts information https://www.mercruiserparts.com/198-mie-2-bbl-gm-305-v-8-1977-47622" rel="nofollow - link The HIN (hull identification number) on the upper right corner of the transom will tell you what year the boat is since you're not sure |
Posted By: bharris6
Date Posted: May-13-2019 at 8:02pm
| Yeah. I feel kind of silly now. My uncle swore up and down it had a ford motor in it. Was that a stock motor they put in these boats. Looking at the serial number it matches up to a late 70's |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: May-13-2019 at 11:08pm
Back then you if you asked nicely and flashed some money, they'd put whatever marine engine you wanted in a boat There weren't many Mercruisers in CC's but there were some. It looks pretty unmolested and original. It has the original Rochester carburetor and Mallory distributor and original exhaust manifolds and plumbing with about a mile and a half of cooling lines. I figure your uncle had a hot start issue with the boat at some point, since there's a bunch of tin foil wrapped around the fuel line. Also, it's hard to tell but that looks like white RTV type material on the shims under the mounts making me think the fiberglass came off and he was trying to seal the wood from moisture. I think the shims are original for the Mercruiser installation |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: May-15-2019 at 12:40am
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If you want a manual for your engine, click on the link below, courtesy of the CCF reference section. Good info including wiring and cooling flow diagrams http://correctcraftfan.com/Downloads/MerCrusiser%20Inboard%20Model%20198%20Manual.pdf" rel="nofollow - link |
Posted By: bharris6
Date Posted: May-15-2019 at 11:38am
| Thank you Keno for all you help |
Posted By: bharris6
Date Posted: November-10-2019 at 7:01pm
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Update: Got the boat off the lift and out of the water this weekend. Drained all the old fuel out of it and hooked a new battery up to make sure it would turn over. The good news is the motor turned over good but it was a slow crank. I need to replace the battery cables as I found the positive cable had a bad splice in it. I believe this was causing the slow crank. Every thing else on the motor and inside of the boat looked good. I got new filters, oil and spark plugs for it I am going to swap out in a couple weekends. I have a couple questions for y'all. When I hooked up the new battery and turned the key to the on position the starter engaged and stayed engaged. Would this be a bad solenoid causing this? And I have attached a picture of what the gel coat looks like on the back corner of the boat on one side. It looks like it is cracking and flaking. What is a good route to fix this? I also attached a picture of the HID which i think confirms that it is a 1978 and also a nice surprise for me is that my uncle had what looks to be the original trailer and wheels for the boat.   
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-10-2019 at 10:43pm
Yes, sounds like the contacts are welded together in the starter relay. If you have a VOM (volt Ohm meter), ohm across the big terminals to confirm. If open (infinity), then check the start ignition key switch making sure it's not sending power to the relay when it's not turned to the crank position. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-11-2019 at 12:35am
If you happen to need a new solenoid(relay), since you have a Mercruiser Chevy BlueWater 198 engine, your remote solenoid(relay) is most likely different from the typical Ford solenoid usually talked about here on CCF and it's wired differently too See page 20 of the manual in the link in the quote above for a wiring diagram A picture of your solenoid showing the wiring connections would be good to help be sure of what you have though |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-11-2019 at 9:15am
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You could also have an issue with the starter mounted solenoid sticking . It would probably be good to get the starter tested anyways to be sure it's healthy, since you have a slow cranking issue |
Posted By: juniorwoody
Date Posted: November-11-2019 at 9:22am
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Just spent a great deal of time looking at the electrical for a reason why my starter stayed cranking with the key off. It was fresh back from the rebuilder. Come to find out it was sticking engaged with the flywheel hence a mechanical issue. They are no fun to remove on the older wood boats as the engine needs to be lifted to service the starter. Which has made the search very difficult. ------------- The value of money spent on new adventure far exceeds the value of money saved for the future |
Posted By: bharris6
Date Posted: November-11-2019 at 1:27pm
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Thank yall for the help. KENO that link has been incredibly helpful. I have been steadily reading through it and getting part numbers for my order list. My plan will be replace the cables and solenoid and see if that fixes any of these issues. If not i will dive deeper in to the wiring diagram and start check voltages. My other concern currently is with the gel coat and what it may take to freshen up the outside of the boat. I am not sure if this is a project worth taking on myself or paying a professional. I spoke with a guy out of Greensboro, Ga that does fiberglass repair but he wants me to bring it by before he gives me any estimate. I would like to do most of the work on this boat myself but man I have never been a fan of fiberglass and know nothing about fiberglass repair or gel coat. Any help on this subject would be great. In the mean time i will be digging around on this site for anybody that may have done some gel coat repairs themselves. |