Platform Mount Holes
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Category: Repairs and Maintenance
Forum Name: Boat Maintenance
Forum Discription: Discuss maintenance of your Correct Craft
URL: http://www.CorrectCraftFan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4772
Printed Date: May-13-2024 at 12:53pm
Topic: Platform Mount Holes
Posted By: MY70/81
Subject: Platform Mount Holes
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 10:08am
| I have a question about how to repair Swim Platform Mount Holes, mine will not hold the screws. Is there some sort of Epoxy that can be used that can be drilled and then will securely hold the screws and stand up to regular use? |
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Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 10:15am
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did you try holding the nuts on the inside of the boat while tightening the bolts on the outside? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: MY70/81
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 10:45am
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79, I am not too familiar with this 81 SN as of yet but the brackets seem to be held in place with just Stainless Lag Screws. I have been reading some other posts, and I am looking for a better way to secure this platform. Thanks in advance for any help.
Kerry |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 10:51am
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I doubt that they are lag screws the two lower outside ones maybe but the rest will be throu bolts that require nuts on the inside. Remove the back panel and you will see them otherwise your screwed if they are just lag bolts because the wood is rotten and water soaked and there's only one fix for that. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: MY70/81
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 11:19am
| Well I removed the platform and the brackets, nothing was through bolted (just lag screws)maybe this is part of the problem? I am getting the idea that at least the top holes should run through and have a plate on the inside with washers and nuts? |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 12:16pm
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I would be more worried about the water damage to the transom than running new thru bolts and plates they're not going to do much good when they ripe thru the transom because it's rotted out. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: MY70/81
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 12:24pm
| 79, I am not sure if I am missing something here or not. 1)How are these platforms normally mounted? 2)The existing holes look like they are original, and the platform looks original also. 3)If this is how it was originally mounted, why would there have to be a problem? are the holes normally sealed with something like silicone? It seems weird that there are no through holes if that was normal in 1981. Thanks for the help. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 12:41pm
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not all came with platforms alot had ladders and the platform may have been added by someone else. The bolts/lags/brackets should have been sealed with silicone if there is no silicone present then that's not good and why the bolts just turn and will not tighten up because it's rotted out and there is nothing for the bolts to bite into. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: MY70/81
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 12:53pm
| Thanks, There was silicone present. I was just thinking that like anything threaded into wood with weight on and off of it over time, that it would eventually pull the threads. I guess that I will look closer for Rot, and if not I will through drill it on the top holes. I have seen products like epoxy to fix small areas of rot like in stringers, would this be advisable to use? I am thinking that I could then redrill the remaining holes, seal well and use stainless lag screws. I apprecite your help on this, my 70 doesn't have a platform and I am not familiar with what is normal. |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 3:35pm
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79, silicone is not the choice for sealing anything below water line,it is fine for the rubrail or for sealing around fitting on deck. but never below the water. silicone shrinks as it hardens,sure way to rot out the transom,instead "silastic" basicly the same but more durable and does not shrink. they are called polysulfides, 3M sells several types depending on usage .4000 ,4200 ,5200 and the most used is 101.Golley 79 i thought you knew that,rite tool for the rite job.79 silconeis what i use around the windows and doors to keep out the spiders..... boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 3:42pm
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I was just using the terms he was to not confuse the issue and I only use 5200 on the boat you must be wackywillies butt buddy
I guess ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: todicus
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 4:30pm
Eewww !!  ------------- Living outside the wake http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1525 - 95GT-40SNOB |
79nautique wrote:Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 4:59pm
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the term 5200,or 4000 or even 101 are out of your vocabulary,and we are not even going to try to get you to spell are we? they are called polysulfides,i am hear to learn and share,not to show contemp when proven to have pa$$ed on BAD info. if you meant 5200 use the correct info, some of these guys need useful,hands on guidance,not put downs and attacks on their IQ ,I GOT YO NUMBER BUCKO. Do you even own a boat, or have you hijacked the pics the way you do the other info bs you feed the newbie.....Your the kinda guy that that boat shops love.a little knowledge followed by a lot of STUPID;ie wall mart(Sony X PLode) stereo ,not in my boat, boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 5:22pm
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Billy you don't know d*ck about me and there are several on here that can attest to the boat I own and the power it has maybe you where to busy stroking yourself to go to Green lake and spend time with the members on this forum, I sure as hell wasn't, and I sure you have a nice set of Klipsch speekers in your boat Like I do, your bullsh*t is really getting old the more sh*t that comes out of your mouth is like your god and we're all phucking idiots. I didn't spend years design engine components and orthopeadic implants because I don't know what I'm doing.
My engine is a real piece of sh*t 
and I still have a bunch of nice shiney polished aluminujm and anodized parts to bolt on sitting in the garage oh and there are the heads I have sitting there waiting to go on to. You're just stuck on yourself and smell like sh*t because your heads been up your a$$ for so long. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 6:40pm
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the blue bilge pump hose looks real cute and that oxidation on that old holley looks real cutr too, oh and by the way any exhaust joint REQUIRES 2 s/s hose clamps to be coast guard approved,but you knew that didn't you.also the pipe plug you used in the intake is a real tell all as to what is on the inside of your motor.if you do have all this education,engine design,and the medical BS you should have at least a few hours of higher learning,ie jr.collage,they did not require you to spell properly,or they just gave you a piece of paper and said go get a job. most people can use more than three and four letter words followed by cursing and profanity,but that ain' you is it???? did you buy those cheesey valve cvers a wally world too................boat dr 79 what is "I still have a bunch of nice shiney polished aluminujm and anodized parts ,we spell it diferently,but hell i live in LA. ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 7:15pm
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been over this a bunch I don't care about the spelling here 9 times out of 10 it's hitting the wrong key on the key board and it's not important your one to talk you should read your posting and correct the errors in it. What you call oxidation is the coating that was removed when it was cleaned in carb cleaner then again I'm sure you cann't make a 25 yr old carb run like new either and what else would you use in a pipe thread a galvenized plug instead of bra$$ or just weld it up or maybe use a straight thread, sorry I didn't have a hex plug handy at the time, edlebrock makes junk I guess, and I'm sure you have no clue what conduit is either.
so what the hell is cutr, collage, ain' or diferently, cvers Your a regular hypocrite for being the worldly scholar that you claim to be. Guess you have trouble using the shift key to make a letter capital after a period or using big words like I. I've never gone to a college but I did go to a university. My elementary English teacher did teach me how to write capital letters and to start a sentence with capital letters thou. You talk about me attacking everyone and your so full of sh*t and a hypocrite, because all you have done this last week is attack any post I've left a remark or comment on. God know's what we would have done without out you the two and half years before you ever joined this site with your wealth of knowledge. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: 91nautique
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 9:05pm
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79
Im curious, what is the fitting coming off the thermostat outlet hose under the coil do? (white fitting with small hose running down the back of the motor) Dan |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-15-2006 at 9:08pm
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it is common knowledge that chrome valve covers will tend to insulte rather than disipate heat,something about the different metals. steel valve cover,copper,nickel,then chrome,they do not promote heat transfer as well as aluminium,hard word for you to spell 79? attack and correct are two entirely different concepts.with your grammer ,as u use it here ,you knew more than the teacher.end of subject......call Eric and tell him how to build trannys and refinish boats................you can do that too,cant you,bet you can,a man once said a mans vocabulry is directly related to his self worth,i beleive it was Mark Twain,but you never heard of him?????? very observant man...........boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: bbrech1
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 12:51am
I have an '89 and the platform was also held on by lag screws. I wanted to change it and added through bolts with backing plates. The backing plates are 3/16 thick stainless steel with nuts welded to them.
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Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 8:59am
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Boat d*ck it's spelled ALUMINUM YA DUMB a$$ HYPOCRITE.
Guess you have no clue what hypocrite means. Never knew valve covers where heat sinks and since they are not it really doesn't matter what material they are made from especially since these boats only see around 160-180 degrees it's really not an issue. Besides they where steel from the factory and the chrome plating isn't going to effect them enought to worry about. 91nautique the fitting is the coolant line for my drippless packing gland for the prop shaft. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 9:24am
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yes 79 i spelled that one wrong,thanx for the grammer lesson,as for the valve covers,if exposed to an airstream,not in our case,they do remove large amounts of oil laden heat.there is a lot of oil flow under those covers,and no engine oil cooler. they were steel on the OEM motor cause they are cost effective(FoMoCo= cheap)I just like the looks of the Ford custom covers. i have no problem with incorrect info,when wrong i stand down.79[1] boat dr[0] your serve..........boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 9:46am
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if your oil is hitting the valve covers then your rockers are not adjusted correctly so there realy isn't an issue and considering oil coolers are aftermarket devices that no OEM's use it's really not an issue, your really out there trying to be smarter than everyone else. You have had a chip on your shoulder ever since you've joined this site and it's getting really old and I'm sure everyone else it getting tiered of it as well as me. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 10:00am
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70/81
My 81 also has SS lag bolts holding the platform brackets. They still tighten down pretty good so I left them that way but if your having trouble your wood has probably soaked up a little water and has softened. Do like the above post and add some backing plates and through bolts and your good to go. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 10:21am
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i have a ford engine in my boat ,and as far as i know the rockers are not adjustable,but what do i know????new style GT-40 heads,no studs,bolts right down thru the fulcrum,a$$emble parts and pieces add bolt torque to specs.no adjustment other than push rod length,i must have a different set up than you.i have lottsa oil in my valve covers,remove v/c and see how much oil flow is there.this oil cools and lubes the rockers ,and has nothing to do with lash adj. ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 11:01am
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it's not even worth discussing here, the oil flows down and never hits the covers the only way it can is if it blows past the rocker while being squirted out of the push rod, no one said that it was a rail mount system or a pedistol system which are cheap and not as effective as a screw in stud mount system. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 11:27am
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79 this thread made me think of you(10. A blonde said, "I was worried that my mechanic might try to rip me off. I was relieved when he told me all I needed was turn signal fluid ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 11:29am
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I am raising the flag of truce,see it white flag,no more, you win.....UNCLE......... boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-16-2006 at 7:39pm
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you guys give up to easy ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: September-17-2006 at 6:10am
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79
You designed orthopedic implants? Thats cool. Did you work for Zimmer? My brother is a pilot for them (captain). He races sailboats on Wawasee. Pat ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-17-2006 at 9:04am
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Pat I worked at Depuy on the otherside of town. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: MY70/81
Date Posted: September-18-2006 at 8:21am
| Wow, I am amazed at how far off track this discussion went. I came back today to check on it and found that I had 29 responses, I thought maybe I got some good advice (which I did), along with lots of other fun stuff. Thanks to everyone for the input, after a closer look over the weekend I found that the holes are indeed through the Transom, and it doesn't appear that there is any other problem from being improperly mounted. My plan now is to make some stainless backing plates, seal with appropriate sealant, and mount with quality stainless hardware. Anything I am missing? |
Posted By: Jim_In_Houston
Date Posted: September-18-2006 at 9:09am
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Yeh. You haven't PayPalled us all $5.00 yet. We're waiting. ------------- Happy owner of a '66 and a '68 Mustang |
Posted By: bbrech1
Date Posted: September-18-2006 at 10:04am
| One thing that i had problems with was the length of the bolts on the two outside brackets. If your bolts are too long they will hit the gas tank and will not snug up the platform to the boat and could possibly put holes in you gas tank. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-18-2006 at 10:58am
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sounds like yours is mounted a little high, or your using extremely long bolts. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: PLBC
Date Posted: September-18-2006 at 12:06pm
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you two (you know who) should get a dim room, scented candles, and flowers ... then f*&% and get on with it.
these pissing matches are stupid, you both act like women. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5164&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 99 |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-18-2006 at 12:12pm
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i have raised the flag of peace,even found something we both agree on,Pink Floyd,dont know about the scented candles tho,75 do you have a flavor you like????????????? boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-18-2006 at 12:57pm
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oh come on, you guys can do better than that
lol eric ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-18-2006 at 12:58pm
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never new an alternative lifestyle skiier ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: MY70/81
Date Posted: September-19-2006 at 6:55am
| JIH & all, is that all you need? I would have thought much more for the quality advice, and especially the Mental Health check up plus Diagnosis. I am used to paying much more for such services, but I give it free to my kids when they act up. Summer is dissapearing fast up here in the North Country, my boat is out of the lake and I am preparing for Snowmobile Season. I guess I will ride these seasons out until I can afford to retire somewhere that I can use my boat year round! |
Posted By: Jim_In_Houston
Date Posted: September-19-2006 at 8:46pm
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Snowmobile? Please explain. Does it have anything to do with that white gound cover I've seen on post cards? ------------- Happy owner of a '66 and a '68 Mustang |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-19-2006 at 10:26pm
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Jim in Houston,its this mechanical toy surrounded by snow that you throw money at.when it snows up there we can invite everyone up north to come ski and play in the deep south,reunion/christmas party. the only ice would be in the Igloo. naaaaaah they like the cold too much.......... boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: MY70/81
Date Posted: September-20-2006 at 8:18am
| Actually it is my alternative method for cruising the lake in the off season. It also saves money because I don't have to pay extra to keep the Labatts cold. As far as the comment about a toy that you throw money at.... are you serious? I seem to recall Pouring a little bit into my summer toy this year also, it seems that the only thing I own that doesn't require much attention is my Motorcycle, (man did I really just say that). I hope everyone enjoys my off season with their boats, I am jealous at times! |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-20-2006 at 8:50am
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boat doc. we always have something to look forward to during the seasons, we put away the boats and wait for the snow, it breaks it up. its a cycle and in the spring you can hardly wait to bust out the boat eric ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Mojoman
Date Posted: September-20-2006 at 9:03am
bbrech1, this is the way the platforms are attached on both my CC's. They have through holes, bolts,washers and locking nuts.. Rock solid way to mount the platforms.. You know all of what's there will hold everything in place without worring about welds or transom rot... Just drill out some new backing plates and get some new SS or Galvanized hardware and your in business... Good Luck, Moj' |