Wrecked My Ankle - Foot Did Not release -
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Printed Date: April-26-2024 at 6:21pm
Topic: Wrecked My Ankle - Foot Did Not release -
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Subject: Wrecked My Ankle - Foot Did Not release -
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 10:36am
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So it finally happened to me. Thursday eve coming off of 1 ball on the very first pass I took a spill (it was a weird one) and my front foot did not come all the way out of my binding. Ankles are not supposed to twist like that for sure. WIth this in mind do any of you have experience with the Reflex or Edge type of "release" bindings? Pro's, Con's, drawbacks etc.... Let's go ahead and rule out price as a con because lets face it, if you are on this forum you know all to well about the cost of our toys. Just for background - I have always used DBL High Wraps - Looking at possibly going to Hardshell front and rear toe. Hoping for some not terrible news from the Ortho Dr. this morning. Any feedback is appreciated. Gary ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
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Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 11:06am
| A lot of my friends use the Reflex front with an rep. Some use the Reflex half boot rear also. I use a Radar Profile front with HRTP rear. As long as you don’t crank the top laces too tight it’s always released for me and I’ve taken some spectacular crashes trying to get” one more ball”. You might want to look at getting a MOB release plate as it will definitely keep you injury free. |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 11:57am
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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46948&title=orlando-76-man-down Did you miss the above thread? Sorry to hear the bad luck. Been there, done that, probably will do it again. I used to ski double Wiley’s, front didn’t realease. I now ski with an HO Syndicate Hardshell with release. Still hadn’t fully made up my mind about the rear but at the moment I’m on an old Radar Vector that’s too deliberately too big and I don’t cinch it down. I wasn’t happy with the Reflex R style. Absolutely LOVE the Hardshell and wish I did the switch years ago, despite my $350k+ leg. I was reluctant to try a release and Hardshell but obviously will never go back. Do your best to keep from going insane. It does get better. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 1:17pm
| As a novice and old skier, I don’t want to go through what you guys are dealing with, especially at my advancing age. I have a neighbor who we refer to as Red Ted who is one of those older guys that can seriously tear it up. He skies behind my boat, 32 off and pulls like a wild bronco. He’s 63 years old. He uses a conventional boot and laces it tight, but he uses a plastic bag to aid in release and I’m wondering if anyone here has ever thought of that. It sure seems like a great way to provide a bail-out provision for when things go awry and the world starts to spin out of control. |
Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 2:19pm
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91: I feel for you, Bro. Sorry about the incident. Many of us have been there and done that (in some form or another). I've been using Wiley double-high wraps for many years. Prior to that, I was riding the H.O. Animal bindings. I had a couple of close calls on some nasty out-the-front falls where the rear foot came out, but the front didn't. I escaped significant injury, but I was concerned. I gave the folks at Wiley's a call. The guy I spoke with recommended that I buy the next size up in the double high-wraps. I was doubtful at first. They dude even said that he would take the used bindings back if I wasn't happy with the results. Well, I didn't need to send the next-size-up bindings back as I really love the way they work. First, I don't have to struggle to get my feet in the bindings. I used to need half a bottle of Duck Butter or Bindings Slime to get my feet in the bindings. Now I just put a little lube inside the binding and a little on each foot. No tugging and pulling and ripping out finger holes any more. Easy on, easy off. My feet feel very secure in the bindings and I've not had any pre-release issues where the bindings should have held...but didn't. Now, the ski comes off in a hard fall and stays on for most falls. I've considered some other bindings, but I keep with the Wiley's. I would love to demo some Syndicate hard-shell bindings, but I need to find someone willing to do a demo. Hope you hair-up and heal-over quickly. JQ ------------- Current 2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 2:22pm
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I met a fellow last year while purchasing a trailer hitch he had for sell. He had just set the record for water skiing in his 72 year old age group. I want to say it was at 35 off? I should remember his name and accomplishments as he was a neat guy. He showed me his ski and binding set up, he went to it after blowing out his ankle and then a knee. His set up was a plate under both boots. In a crash the entire plate comes off the ski and both feet and boots remain in the plate. He said he has never been hurt in the new device. He modified his so he could adjust his feet forward or aft till it best met his needs. Sorry I don't have a brand name but there is an answer out there. I have chosen to ski old school, Low wrap front boot, open heel. Easy slip on easy exit in crashes, at least so far in 40+ years on slolom. I never went deeper than 6 balls at 32 off, 36 mph. ------------- |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 2:49pm
JQ, supposedly HO will demo their Hardshell. That’s what their website leads you to believe. But just like EVERY interaction I’ve ever had with HO, you get ZERO response until you start complaining and bashing on Ball of Spray. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Jonny Quest wrote:Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 4:41pm
No I didn't miss it, rather chose not to see carnage in my sport. I just think it is bad juju looking at that stuff. I haven't even looked at my footage of the crash. Thanks for the info on hardshells. Gary ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 4:43pm
Those sound like the GOODE binding system ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 4:49pm
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Well boys bad news from the Doc. I have surgery next Wednesday and get to sport a screw or two. The injury is actually to my foot. The common name is Lisfranc - It is where the joint in the foot the runs up the foot in line between the big toe and 2nd toe becomes compromised. Turns out you can't walk if this thing isn't correct, so I get some screws to pull it back together. I am already going nuts not skiing. I talked to a pro from NC who uses them (REFLEX) and highly recommends them. He states (and I tend to agree) No binding system is 100% safe, but these give you the best chance of survival in those nasty crashes. The good news for my skiing partner is he now has a full time driver..... Cheers Gary ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 7:28pm
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My wife's injury in May - her foot stayed in high wrap front binding. https://i.imgur.com/zu9OeGY.jpg%20" rel="nofollow">   https://i.imgur.com/zu9OeGY.jpg%20" rel="nofollow - Click For Full-Size Image .A little surgery later..... https://i.imgur.com/zfDjJWp.jpg%20" rel="nofollow">  https://i.imgur.com/zfDjJWp.jpg%20" rel="nofollow - Click For Full-Size Image .She's wearing both shoes again now and looking forward to bindings which release. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 7:30pm
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Lisfranc can be tough repairs. Follow aftercare instructions ...TO THE LETTER. All the Best for your repair. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 8:48pm
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My daughter used Reflex on her trick ski and will move to a reflex next year when she gets a new Slalom. Turns out the Reflex are more comfortable (for most people) than are rubber bindings, and have an added measure of safety. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-26-2019 at 9:46pm
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Very sorry to hear the news of these injuries. Takes the fun out of an entire summer. I hope you heal well and very quickly. Time to do some one foot barefooting with your cast in a sleeve proudly held high! I never embraced the high wrap lock in bindings, Most times I can get my ski on and make a run before some of those bindings can be on and ready. I was also noticing the marks on the rear of my boat from friends putting on their high wraps on my rear deck last weekend. About every 30 seconds you hear the ski bump the hull while they put on those bindings. ------------- |
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 10:15am
100% for sure. thanks Gary ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 12:01pm
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Have any y’all gone to your boat insurance company for help with ski injuries? How’d that end up? Since I’m back to skiing recently and enlight of this post I just called Progressive and had my bodilily injuries increased to the max. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 1:56pm
| A friend snapped his femur in half behind my boat. BoatUS covered his 5K deductible without admitting any liability. At the time I only had 1K in medical but they covered it anyway. After that I upped it to the max which was 10K at the time. My main concern these days is helicopter evac costs. I have heard some horror stories from people that have had injuries and been flown to the hospital from the lake we go to. At the time my friend broke his femur (early 2000's) the helicopter ride was 13K and his insurance covered it. Now I hear the ride is in the 50k to 100k range and most insurance companies don't cover it. |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 3:08pm
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In California there is a Medical Helicopter service by the name of CalStar, you can sign up with them, minimal cost per year, $100, it covers you should you need a Helicopter evac. I buy it for Snow Skiing. I think the current charge per flight is $25,000 if you don't have insurance. I've worked weekends in Lake Tahoe as a Ski Patroller the past 20 years. You might check your areas and see what is available and what reciprocal agreements they offer in case you are out of your area. One of my friends was signed up for Calstar, his son fell skateboarding and had a severe head injury. They flew him to a level 1 Hospital and Calstar covered it. He fully recovered as a bonus. ------------- |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 5:11pm
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For your reading pleasure Lisfranc - http://www.southfloridasportsmedicine.com/lisfrancs.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.southfloridasportsmedicine.com/lisfrancs.html  
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Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 5:16pm
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Thanks for the info. Looks like Calstar is part of the AirMedCare network which is nationwide. Just signed up. Only $65 a year for someone of my advanced age and they cover my wife and son as well. Hopefully never need it! https://www.amcnrep.com" rel="nofollow - AirMedCare Looks like Arizona rates are about $20k to put the bird in the air and $290 per mile. That's right around $60k from our lake to Phoenix. Ouch! |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 5:21pm
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Might be the cheapest $65 ever spent and great peace of mind when in the outback. ------------- |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 5:35pm
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That lift cost seems to be inflated and we only charge for loaded miles in other words only the miles with the patient on board. Most quality medical insurance providers will pay for the flight. Around these parts the subscriber type company's have a pretty bad reputation. Just saying |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 5:49pm
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We have used Calstar a couple times per month each winter and they have been outstanding. As they fly in they communicate with us on the ground for information and giving advice. When the clouds drop in they are grounded. They are also good about giving updates after the fact but Tahoe is a small community, and the ski community is pretty tight compared to large cities. They also donate time to fly in and train with us nearly every year to make sure we know how to safely approach a helicopter when it comes in on the snow. Frostbite can happen in seconds on unprotected skin when it is 5 degrees and the chopper has a 100 MPH wind from the rotor. My experience, they are very serious and offer top notch help. Distances would be flight of the crow, 70 miles to Sacramento UCD Med Center, 40 miles to Reno, or 10 miles to Lake Tahoe. Level of care available goes up with the distance involved. My son flew the Apache for the army up until last year, he thinks they are good. ------------- |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 6:07pm
Paul, Define bad reputation. In terms of saving $60k..... I don’t mind them dropping the stretcher 2 or 3 times. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 6:13pm
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All those item's you listed are pretty much SOP among the industry, the LZ training medical follow ups, and all . Our program is an IFR program (we fly in the clouds) and we own GPS approaches into most of the hospitals that we service, which most if any of the subscription companies do not as they're a fly for profit and not affiliated with a health system. If the patient needs a helicopter I hope their going to a level 1 trauma center, if not they should be in ALS or BLS ambulance saving tons of money. |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 6:19pm
| Todd wasn't there just a big ta do down in Florida on a fly for profit company over charging or something like that. |
Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 6:33pm
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I had a traumatic brain injury last December working at Keystone, it was a very icy day -15 degrees with winds of 20-25 mph. Was taken to the clinic where I was diagnosed with 3 brain bleeds. Next I got a Flight for Life helicopter ride to a level one trauma center, Lakewood Hospital. Workers comp covered all expenses but the helicopter ride was $28,500. I’ve been on several helicopter rides but Ed the pilot was the best. He had over 18,000 hours and was an Army veteran. In no time we were at the hospital where I received excellent care. It really doesn’t matter what the cost is for transport when your brain is traumatized. As part of my job for the resort I clear landing zones for Flight for Life. I have a newfound respect for all involved in air transport. Happy to be slalom skiing again this summer although I did take this year off from competing as I’ve still got a ways to go before I’m ready. Will definitely be back in CO working this winter and competing in slalom next summer. I’m only 73, move it or lose it. |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 8:01pm
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Wow, glad you survived to play again. Sounds like a very close call. Mark ------------- |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 8:24pm
Oh I don’t know. I have strict rule in our house, no sports on tv and no news. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: August-27-2019 at 10:12pm
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I don't think there's any "safe" binding out there. This is a generally dangerous sport, flying back and forth behind a boat at speeds in excess of 50mph on a stick of carbon, compounded by water itself which adds drowning and/or infections to the mix. I'd argue that no hardshell is safer than a rubber boot. The hardshells today are actually rollerblade boots held in place by a hoop on the front and an alpine telemark binding release on the back. Literally none of it doing what it was designed to do. It's amazing that we trust this so much. Screws, release arms, tension, and springs need to be inspected regularly and nothing scares me more than the thought of a pre-release. A rubber binding is not going to pre-release in the course but it's a few flaps of rubber screwed to a plate which is also a ridiculous design. I'll take that over pre-release I guess. A lot of folks run the HS boots directly on a plate which is attached to the ski with... Interloc velcro. Again, that's a lot of faith in some velcro but lots of serious skiers put up really big scores with these setups. Acclimation is also an issue with HS bindings. Having skied rubber bindings all this time I've found hardshell bindings to be an incredibly big change so prepare for that mentally. Probably a 20-set period to get used to it. I gave up after a few sets on the HS (season is too short) and now I'm just rocking a Wiley and a rear toe plate. Works great. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: August-28-2019 at 9:30am
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I'm surprised they haven't come up with a snow ski type binding, where the toe releases laterally and the heel upwards. Then again all we did when the conditions required is crank them down so they would not pre-release or basically not release until just before the knee popped "hopefully" 
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Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-28-2019 at 2:18pm
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I guess we better all go back to tubing for safety reasons! ------------- |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: August-28-2019 at 2:35pm
Yeah, but my grandma also broke her hip walking to the kitchen sink. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-28-2019 at 3:01pm
Really?? https://www.bing.com/search?q=tubing+injurys+&form=EDNTHT&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=0249764ebd5d40ade5bdfc9bfb097f47&sp=-1&pq=tubing+injurys+&sc=1-15&qs=n&sk=&cvid=0249764ebd5d40ade5bdfc9bfb097f47" rel="nofollow - Mark, do you think it's safer? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: dip
Date Posted: August-28-2019 at 4:40pm
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For about 7 years now I have been with a Reflex front with Wiley's rear. I have been lucky so far, without ever having a pre-release. I used Andy Mapple's video on Youtube as a guide for setting it up with the appropriate tension, and check it often. That said, every fall is different and you never know what is going to happen. A friend who does not have good through the wake form (too flat and on the tail) has had pre-releases coming off the wake. If that describes your pull, you might want to avoid it. Unlike most people, I did not have a hard time acclimating to it. I prefer the standard shell to the Super Shell because I like the buckles better. When I first began using it I left the top buckle a little loose so I had good forward flex, but now I cinch it down more. I had a harder time adjusting to the rituals of putting it on and taking it off, as opposed to the rituals of the double wraps. Friends who have had the hardest time adjusting got the new bindings while also getting a new ski. To me that's too many new variables. What I do not like are the semi-hard, lace up bindings that act like wakeboard bindings. You do not come out of them at all. My 12 year old son has a Radar Senate with a Radar lace up that I am changing. I can't get him to keep it loose because he doesn't like the feel, but it will not release. He's getting a good ole Wiley's high wrap. I hope you heal quickly. |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: August-28-2019 at 5:09pm
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Pete, you have to recognize a joke when you see one. When I was in my mid 20's we used to tube on occation and the rider always had to bet $1 that he could stay on, if he stayed on the driver paid the rider a dollar. If he fell off the rider paid the driver $1. It was fun but very dangerous. I remember riding a whip once trying to earn my dollar, the driver turned sharp and gassed it, I was whipping so fast pretty soon I was airborne still holding the handle and the tube was flying right next to me. We had a tire tube with a strap made of carpet wrapped around the front to tow with. Had a handle attached to the rope to help hold on. I knew it was going to hurt but hung on as long as possible waiting for the whip speed to drop off before I crashed. I took about 6 tumbles before stopping and had no damage at all. It could have been really bad. Yeah, I know they are very dangerous. On our favorite lake a woman driving drunk pulling a tube ran over her son and he died, I think he was 12. Terrible shame and stupid parent to blame. Tubes have been banned ever since on this lake. This being California her lawyers sued the State, it happened in a State park and WON. Drunk driving a boat, killed her child and they paid her to do it. Only in California. It is a narrow lake and I think they said tubes should have been banned for safety reasons prior to the accident. Not sure how they buried the fact that she was drunk driving. Maybe because the older drunk driving laws did not apply in a boat. Today that has changed and the law is the same, car, bicylcle or boat, drunk driving is punished the same and it is very tough as it should be. ------------- |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: August-28-2019 at 5:25pm
MrMcD Most any half fast nitwit knows it was a joke  And most anybody that's been on CCF for more than a week or two would know that Pete would respond exactly as he did. Good joke
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-28-2019 at 6:29pm
Mark, Thanks for explaining it to me. Sorry I did not catch on.. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: August-30-2019 at 11:05am
Thanks. The recovery on this one is lengthy post surgery, but I will be back in the spring. Also, I am good and stacked crossing the wakes, so that doesn't describe my position crossing the wakes. I should be good as far as position causing pre-release. Gary ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: September-10-2019 at 7:00pm
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Just an update for you folks. Surgery went great and no surprises so that's good. Ended up needing 1 screw to put it back together. After the fist few days very little pain to speak of except involuntary foot flexing in my sleep that sends me through the roof. Not a big fan of pain meds so I only took the "good stuff" for a day or so. My follow up is Monday and I am pretty sure I will get a cast for 6 weeks after that. Light load for 6 more weeks and physical therapy. Realistically I am setting my goal for fully rehabbed by April 1 foot (and rest of my body). If any of you have had this injury and have some rehab tips or gotchas please share. Cheers. Gary ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: September-10-2019 at 7:12pm
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Glad it went well and only one screw. Heal Fast. At least the season is wrapping up giving you time to heal off season. ------------- |
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: September-10-2019 at 8:21pm
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Yeah that’s about the only positive out of it. Everything was really starting to come together. Was getting deep into 32 off. Oh well. It could be worse that’s for sure ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: September-11-2019 at 1:33am
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You'll be back at it! Good luck with the rehab. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: September-11-2019 at 11:15am
I appreciate it. I am definitely taking it seriously. My ortho is pretty straight forward in explaining how important full rehab of this injury is. ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: zwoobah
Date Posted: September-11-2019 at 11:31am
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Many years ago my dad broke his ankle. He plastic-bagged the plaster cast and still went slalom skiing. He planned to ski into the beach, but it didn't quite work out and his cast got soaked. His doctor said that if he did something that stupid again he was gonna have to figure out how to make his own replacement casts. ------------- 1968 Mustang 16 - 351W powered |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: September-11-2019 at 1:25pm
Rehab is a huge factor. Not only do you have to be diligent about doing the work, make sure you have a highly competent physical therapy person as it can make a world of difference. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: September-11-2019 at 2:04pm
Good advice for sure. We have a good sports rehab facility near by. They worked with my son (soccer and place kicker) Torn Hip Flexor, My daughter who swam for 13 years (Shoulder) and my other daughter who did competition cheer and broke her collar bone twice... (against the direction of her PT Person, she was not supposed to be tumbling, but thought she was good to go and ran a tumbling pass...... Snap broke it for the 2nd time 8 weeks after the initial break.- (That's on her- she was patient the 2nd time around). - They are very thorough and lean on the side of don't go back too soon. I will keep you guys updated. Feels like forever, but I am just one week out of surgery. I will say I am glad this happened at age 48 and not 28.... Back then I would have pushed to be back out on the water too soon for sure. Gary ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: aupatking
Date Posted: October-17-2019 at 12:45am
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Paul, the MOB boot system releases laterally from the front and up from the rear, as you said. It’s the only one that does. I wrecked my ankle Sunday in a Reflex Supershell setup. The system worked and nothing is broken, as I’m almost certain it would have in anything other than Reflex or MOB. Pretty sure I wouldn’t even have the high ankle sprain I do now if I had been using the MOB, that I already own! I have been VERY hesitant to change from my Reflex. It’s been so good. The only problem I have with the MOB is that only D3 makes their skis with inserts for it. I’ve been a Radar loyal guy but I’m thinking pretty hard about a new D3 once I can walk right. ------------- 02 SN 196 TSC2 ZO 01 SN 196 TSC1 98 SN 196 TSC1 97 SN 196 TSC1 93 SN 196 NWZ |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: October-17-2019 at 2:13am
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Bummer, heal quickly. ------------- |
Posted By: C_Heath
Date Posted: February-27-2020 at 3:12pm
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I broke my right ankle and right foot on the same crash. It was an over rotation on an Air Raley. Right foot stayed in the boot. Destroyed it. No weight for 5 weeks and a cast. ------------- 1979 Calipso Runabout (the boat that got it all started) 1988 Mastercraft ProStar 190 (sold) 2000 Pro Air Nautique/GT40 |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: February-27-2020 at 3:32pm
| All this scary stuff finally drove me to a Hardshell front and rtp rear for my new D3 Evo ski. I went with the HO Syndicate version. Not cheap for sure but cheaper than deductible for a mangled ankle. |
Posted By: 91NaughtyQ
Date Posted: July-26-2023 at 9:17am
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Just wanted to give an update - After 3 years of absolutely no fun on the lake, a few weeks ago my old ski partner called and asked me to drive for him so of course I said yes which led to me saying well maybe I will just free ski, but stay out of the course..... which led to.... which led to...... a new RADAR Lithium Vapor with Reflex Hardshell front and RADAR hybrid rear and into 28 off yesterday with relative ease.... It doesn't get any better than an evening on the glass chasing those lil orange thingys..... I am like a kid at Christmas every day - Oh and skiing with Wade Cox this Friday so that should be cool. G ------------- 1991 Ski Nautique (Previous)1984 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: July-26-2023 at 9:19am
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great to hear! ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |