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Topic: 1990 Ski nautique problem
Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Subject: 1990 Ski nautique problem
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 1:01am
Hello everyone! I am hoping for some advice and incite on an issue that happened today with my 1990 ski nautique.
I put it in the water a few days ago after storing it in my garage over the winter.
The steering felt a little stiffer then I remember but your could maneuver the boat just fine with some slight effort to turn the wheel.
Took my 9 yo for the first ski run of the season, again after dropping him by our swim raft I went to make a turn towards the dock. When I turned the wheel I felt a Click or snap and then the wheel would just free spin without actually turning the rudder .
I swam it back to the lift and took a closer look... the wheel will just freely spin and make a clicking sound, no movement of the rudder at all..
My question is.. do I have an issue with the helm, steering head, or a snapped steering cable?
Any places to recommend for ordering replacement parts or to try troubleshooting over the phone..
would like to get to work on replacing whatever needs to be done
Thanks
Andrew



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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 9:01am
Andrew,
Sure sounds like a cable to me but you'll need to do some further investigating. Take a look at the tiller arm end of the cable while turning the helm. If it's not moving then chances are high it's the cable. Then pull the cable out of the helm and when moving one end and if the other end isn't, then you'll know. https://www.nautiqueparts.com/product/steering-cable-all-nautiques-from-1982-to-1990/" rel="nofollow - Nautique Parts is a good source for the cable. Understand it is a special throw so it is on the pricey side. Do not use a generic cable. Your boat would have a steering problem!

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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 9:53am
Thanks for the response ...
the steering wheel will just turn freely with absolutely no resistance right now.
It also
Makes a clicking sound as it turns.i will try disconnecting the cable at the helm.... once I do that does the cable pull or turn (spin) to a Attempt to move the tiller?
I am located in north central Wisconsin


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 9:58am
Andrew,
The cable pushes and pulls. If it's not broken, then the problem is in the helm. Report back what you find.

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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 11:03am
As I recall, the cable should wind out of the helm after you unscrew the retainer nut. It will be greasy so have some gloves on & a plastic bag to put the end into.

There are many posts on this site about the procedure to replace the cable.

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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 11:08am
Thanks for the tips.. I’m headed our shortly to check the cable .. I’ll report back.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 1:10pm
Assuming that the steering cable is the issue, should i plan on ordering the direct replacement? I have been researching this. and this cable seems to be much more expensive then the cable that goes in the newer models. Some posts mention that you can upgrade to a newer cable by changing out some of the helm/steering components as well. Is this worth doing or should i just plan on replacing the cable if that is what is truly going on?


Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 1:21pm
I’d be willing to bet big money that the steering cable is broken. Surprised no one has suggested moving the rudder manually while having an observer watch the helm for movement of the wheel. This will tell you immediately that the cable is broken without removing the aft panels to check. I’ve heard some sad stories over the years of folks who went for the “cheap aftermarket” steering cables only to be disappointed in the end. Thank about it, it’s a 30 year old boat and you’ll likely never have to replace the cable again!   If you use nautiqueparts.com you can get a 10% discount by using PND as promo code.

Good luck with the repair.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

Assuming that the steering cable is the issue, should i plan on ordering the direct replacement? I have been researching this. and this cable seems to be much more expensive then the cable that goes in the newer models. Some posts mention that you can upgrade to a newer cable by changing out some of the helm/steering components as well. Is this worth doing or should i just plan on replacing the cable if that is what is truly going on?

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Andrew, https://www.nautiqueparts.com/product/steering-cable-all-nautiques-from-1982-to-1990/" rel="nofollow - Nautique Parts is a good source for the cable. Understand it is a special throw so it is on the pricey side. Do not use a generic cable. Your boat would have a steering problem!

Originally posted by DVskier DVskier wrote:

I’ve heard some sad stories over the years of folks who went for the “cheap aftermarket” steering cables only to be disappointed in the end.


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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 2:50pm
I did a writeup on my 93 Steering Cable replacement here:
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31166&title=steering-cable-replacement-with-pictures" rel="nofollow - Steering Cable Replacement

Before you order the cable, another check you could do is to poke your head under the dash to see what's going on, make sure the helm gear is still attached to the "rack" end of the cable. There's always the possibility, although maybe unlikely. that something broke or came loose under there.

The helm end depends on nuts and bolts holding the rack end of the cable agains the helm gear.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 2:53pm
Update:
I went down to the boat with my son..it was on the lift so it was a little tricky.
I wiggled the tiller around a little in the water, it was pretty difficult move by hand..not sure if that is normal. As i was doing that he saw the steering wheel move.
He was then able to turn the wheel to the left, and the tiller moved accordingly . It might have been a little stiff turning it, but he was able to turn it with 2 hands ( he is nine y.o).
However, when we tried turning the steering wheel to the right, it would move the tiller accordingly until it reached the end range. At that point, the wheel would skip and return to free spinning with a slight click as it spun.
I would manually move the tiller again ( moving wheel to the left), the wheel would re-engage and he could turn the wheel all the way to the left again.

Any thoughts on what could be going on, or what might need to be replaced?

Thanks!


Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 3:24pm
A bit of confusion here with regards to terminology. The tiller is the arm that actually turns the rudder. The rudder is located at the aft end of the vessel and causes the boat to turn. If moving the rudder also turns “the steering wheel” aka helm then it would appear that the steering cable is intact. However stiff steering is 99% of the time the cable. It is possible that the helm rack has damage as well. I’d certainly get under the dash and check that out. To be sure you could order both and replace the entire system. The folks at Nautique parts.com are very knowledgeable and provide excellent technical telephone support.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 3:30pm
Regarding my
Above message.. I was behind the boat turning the rudder ,
The steering wheel could
Move the rudder when turned to the left.. when the wheel was turned to the right it would turn the rudder until it got to the end range of motion for the wheel.
At that point it would click, spin freely and not turn the rudder.
Could I replace the helm part if necessary now, then at the end of the season do the cable or is it just worth doing it all at once?


Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 3:43pm
The skip with click and then free spinning makes me suspect there is something going on where the steering wheel or helm gear interfaces with the rack gear of the cable.

There's also the possibility that something is messed up within the helm gearing if it has a tilt type helm.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 4:03pm
Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

The skip with click and then free spinning makes me suspect there is something going on where the steering wheel or helm gear interfaces with the rack gear of the cable.

There's also the possibility that something is messed up within the helm gearing if it has a tilt type helm.

Plus 1. It's got to be taken apart to find out what's going on inside the helm.

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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 4:16pm
Thanks for the advice.. so I need to remove the steering wheel and helm .. would this also involve
Taking the steering cable off it’s connection at the helm or can the helm part be pulled straight out without cable removal ?


Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 4:22pm
Before you take anything apart, just take a look under the dash, on the backside of the steering wheel with a flashlight and see if you can have someone move the wheel for you.

When the wheel is turned all the way right to that "skipping" stage, see if you can see any unusual movement.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 6:11pm
We went back down to the boat.. I took a look under the dash and the nut/washer on what I assume is the bottom of the helm bolt had a little play. I tightened it up slightly and had my son turn the wheel.. it turned to the left and stopped without clicking or free spinning. Turning it to the right it would move the rudder but there was no stop point in the steering .. you could continue turning the wheel to the right after the rudder stopped its corresponding movement..
we took the boat out on a short test run.. it seemed to steer fine turning to the left as previous.. a harder right turn brought on a slight catch in the wheel but it didn’t release or free spin.. sorry this might be a tough one to figure out..


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

sorry this might be a tough one to figure out..

Andrew,
I think somethings amiss inside the helm so opening it up may tell the story. The stiffness is still a concern. It may have caused damage inside the helm? A new cable in my opinion may be needed.

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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-25-2020 at 6:45pm
Can the helm come apart by removing the steering wheel and the nut/bolt in the end of the helm? Does the steering cable need to be removed as well?


Posted By: Mpost
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 10:59am
The link below is a non tilt helm Assy. for your boat vintage. It looks to me like you could take the four bolts off of this part and be able to inspect the gear in this assy, and moving the rudder should show you all the teeth. Also inspect the part attached to the steering wheel shaft.
I would be very concerned with driving the boat much with this type of problem just waiting to occur on a hard turn under power
https://www.nautiqueparts.com/product/helm-base-assy-for-non-tilt-systems/" rel="nofollow - Helm

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 11:46am
Originally posted by Mpost Mpost wrote:

The link below is a non tilt helm Assy. for your boat vintage.
https://www.nautiqueparts.com/product/helm-base-assy-for-non-tilt-systems/" rel="nofollow - Helm

Martin,
I don't think Andrew has the rack and pinion. Chances are higher that it's the Big T Teleflex.

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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 12:36pm
Thanks for the responses.. I’m going to try and post a pic of what it looks like under the steering console .. I don’t think it’s a rack and pinion.. it resembles more of a rotary system I believe ...


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

Thanks for the responses.. I’m going to try and post a pic of what it looks like under the steering console .. I don’t think it’s a rack and pinion.. it resembles more of a rotary system I believe ...

If it looks like a rotary, it's the Big T Teleflex.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 12:44pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

Thanks for the responses.. I’m going to try and post a pic of what it looks like under the steering console .. I don’t think it’s a rack and pinion.. it resembles more of a rotary system I believe ...

If it looks like a rotary, it's the Big T Teleflex.

Maybe... but not 100% true. Most 90 should have the big-T, but some late 90 and then 91-92 had some different rotary systems (not big-T). My 91 had such a set up. Pics would be best to confirm.



Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 12:57pm
Im
Not sure how to post a pic.. I tried the tree with the arrow up but it didn’t work..
I can send an email photo to someone if they feel comfortable .... or maybe I need to do something else for getting the photo on here..


Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 1:12pm
Are you uploading it with an iPhone? Sometimes an iPad will work (oddly) but you often need a regular computer.

Anyway, the picture may be uploaded but lost in the abyss. To find the file location
1.) Click on Member control, with the little gear on the upper left of this page
2.)Click on file manager
3.)See if you can find your pic, if so, right click it and open it in a new tab.
4.)Grab the pics url from the top of the new tab
5.)post it here

Otherwise PM me, and you can send it to me over email.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 1:14pm
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/uploads/19740/D07CC90A-7A20-4252-8A4A-CCA243160F8D.jpeg



Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 1:16pm


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 1:18pm
Hope that view is ok to help determine what cable that might be


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 3:43pm
Well that’s not a big t, not is it the same helm as my 91.

Wondering if Z has come across this oddball.


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 4:30pm
I’ve seen some no/name rotary helms in mid/late 90s Malibus. Easily replaced with modern Sea Star rotary helm & cables. I believe Sea Star bought out Teleflex.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 4:34pm
Brian on here recommended that I contact nautique parts and discuss just converting the helm and steering system to a rack and pinion..they sell conversion kits apparently it would seem to make the most sense. Has anyone else tried this?


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 7:05pm
Looked again and the pic fooled me... i think it’s a big-t after all. I have a spare in the basement. If you end up needing one, pm me.

I’ve heard that the r&p may not fit in the 90-93 dash, but I haven’t confirmed that myself. Fitting ram end of the cable down the conduit sure isn’t fun (the rotary helm end is much easier). I would also ask about steering wheel interchangeability (yours takes a 3/4” taper).


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:



I’ve heard that the r&p may not fit in the 90-93 dash, but I haven’t confirmed that myself. .

I put the newer R&P for ~2007 era SN in my 93 with no problems at all. I had the older style R& P.

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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 7:47pm
Wow this is really getting complicated.... would
I be best served by used looking for the direct replacement?


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

Wow this is really getting complicated.... would
I be best served by used looking for the direct replacement?


Have you called?

Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

Brian on here recommended that I contact nautique parts


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Posted By: Cyclone
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 9:31am
I tried to search but couldn't find out why the years 82 to 90 need a special longer cable than other years. Is the arm on the rudder different or is the helmdifferent or is there some other reason
Thanks



Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 10:30am
Originally posted by Cyclone Cyclone wrote:

I tried to search but couldn't find out why the years 82 to 90 need a special longer cable than other years. Is the arm on the rudder different or is the helmdifferent or is there some other reason
Thanks

hadn’t worked on those years yet but I’m guessing it’s a longer cable since the boat is longer.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 10:32am
Longer throw increases steering travel and therefore maneuverability.


Posted By: Cyclone
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 1:46pm
So if I take the complete steering system out of a 70's Southwind with a normal throw cable and it's associated steering tube or clamp block tube or whatever it's called and want to use it in an 86 SN project boat, it should steer like a 70's setup? A 70's setup seems to have a good turning radius to me.
This is all free stuff and the cable is practically new so it's a lot cheaper than a CC long throw cable is why I am asking.


Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 1:57pm
This plan will be a waste of time, IMO.

The correct cable is expensive but you won't have to replace it twice.

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Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 3:18pm
I agree. Sort of like putting used tires on a car to save money. Steering is a vital part of boating.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 3:25pm
I’m still waiting on nautique parts to get back to me.. wondering if I should just order the steering cable and the helm and just take care of both in one shot.. I’m not sure which helm part I need ... I don’t think the steering wheel tilts on my boat../

And just to be sure.. the steering wheel should have a hard “stop” at the end range of motion for the rudder both to the right and left?
Currently mine only has a stop when turned to the left..


Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

I’m still waiting on nautique parts to get back to me.. wondering if I should just order the steering cable and the helm and just take care of both in one shot.. I’m not sure which helm part I need ... I don’t think the steering wheel tilts on my boat../

And just to be sure.. the steering wheel should have a hard “stop” at the end range of motion for the rudder both to the right and left?
Currently mine only has a stop when turned to the left..


Option A:) Get TRBENJ's used Helm and by a brand new corresponding cable. Someone would have to confirm that the used helm bolts up where your old one goes, and tell you which cable to buy to go with it.

B:) Seemingly large money, but buy a brand new Teleflex helm and a brand new cable to go with it. This is expensive because the brand new Telefax helm is expensive.

C:) Go with a new non-tilting, rack and pinion helm, and the cable that goes with that. Just have to confirm with someone that the new pinion helm will bolt up where your rotary helm was. It looks like Nautiqueparts is saying it does, but I don't personally know if modifications would be needed.

D.) The possibility that your existing helm is not broken. You keep your helm and just buy the cable for that helm. You'll have to take the helm apart and see.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:


D.) The possibility that your existing helm is not broken. You keep your helm and just buy the cable for that helm. You'll have to take the helm apart and see.

My thought as well. Plus 1 From the description of what's going on, I have a feeling the helm end of the cable is chewed up but disassembly will tell.

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 4:36pm
E) cable is fine, helm is not. Replace helm.

Let’s see what’s broken first.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: May-29-2020 at 2:13am
Thanks all.. i got called back to work this week so my mission tomorrow afternoon or saturday is to take it apart .. I’ll take some pics and report back.


Posted By: Jonny Quest
Date Posted: May-29-2020 at 3:17am
My previous boat was a 1994 Ski Nautique. I did a helm and steering cable upgrade as others have mentioned. The process was not difficult and the results were great. Steering was outstanding. Don’t be too daunted with the scope of the project.

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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: May-29-2020 at 10:36am
Originally posted by Cyclone Cyclone wrote:

So if I take the complete steering system out of a 70's Southwind with a normal throw cable and it's associated steering tube or clamp block tube or whatever it's called and want to use it in an 86 SN project boat, it should steer like a 70's setup? A 70's setup seems to have a good turning radius to me.
This is all free stuff and the cable is practically new so it's a lot cheaper than a CC long throw cable is why I am asking.


Cyclone

You should probably start your own separate thread on this and you might get all kinds of opinions.

I figure if you use the short throw cable and the short tube, you'll have decent steering like a 70's boat, as you mentioned but won't have quite the sharpness of the original 86 setup.
Probably only noticeable at slow speeds like docking etc

If you use the short throw cable and the longer tube like in the 86, then you drastically affect the throw of the rudder. That's what many people have done and had problems with and then bought the expensive cable.

If it's all free especially with a practically new cable and it''s a project, you could install it and see how far the rudder turns in each direction as compared to what's there now and decide for yourself.

Kinda makes you wonder why they felt the need to make the rudder turn sharper in the 80's


Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: May-29-2020 at 3:24pm
Keno Did you ever watch a ski show at Sea World in Orlando? The driver would come into the view area at full tilt and do a bat turn! Pretty eye opening experience for all the spectators. Most had never seen how quickly a ski boat can turn. That’s my guess.


Posted By: Cyclone
Date Posted: May-29-2020 at 10:39pm
Keno I don't think I need to start a new thread, I did a test fit today and it looks like it will work for me. There seems to be plenty of rudder movement. It will be a while till it's water ready but I'll be aware and cautious when first giving it test runs. Like I said the steering cable is practically new and I didn't have the original parts anyways in this project boat.
Thanks for the helpful input about tube sizes to go with cable. The cable and tube worked good in the previous boat so I think I'm OK here with the same setup in this boat.
Thanks


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: May-30-2020 at 8:38am
Originally posted by DVskier DVskier wrote:

Keno Did you ever watch a ski show at Sea World in Orlando? The driver would come into the view area at full tilt and do a bat turn! Pretty eye opening experience for all the spectators. Most had never seen how quickly a ski boat can turn. That’s my guess.


Since you asked................yes I did, but it must have been Glastron day or year or whatever at the show.

Not a CC to be seen, it was 1979 or 1980

A 70's SN would do a pretty good "bat turn" though

Maybe somebody can post a photo of the somewhat camera shy dual steering cable setup people talk about on the sea world SN's.

I've seen just as many photos of Bigfoot as I have the dual cable setup


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: May-30-2020 at 8:50am
Originally posted by Cyclone Cyclone wrote:

Keno I don't think I need to start a new thread, I did a test fit today and it looks like it will work for me. There seems to be plenty of rudder movement. It will be a while till it's water ready but I'll be aware and cautious when first giving it test runs. Like I said the steering cable is practically new and I didn't have the original parts anyways in this project boat.
Thanks for the helpful input about tube sizes to go with cable. The cable and tube worked good in the previous boat so I think I'm OK here with the same setup in this boat.
Thanks


Good luck with it, I don't think you'll have a problem, other than slightly less rudder travel.

Somebody here on CCF has a 79 BFN that he put the longer cable in with the longer tube

He ran into problems with a short original tube and the new longer cable and had to find the longer tube to match the cable.

Maybe he can tell you how much difference he saw.

I think his initials are TRB


Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: May-30-2020 at 9:26am
Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:



Kinda makes you wonder why they felt the need to make the rudder turn sharper in the 80's


My guess is it had to be done to meet AWSA or whatever the hell the governing body initials are of skiing guidelines to do a 360 inside the turn buoys on a course.

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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: June-01-2020 at 1:10pm
Planet nautique got back to me and thought it was my steering cable not the helm based off a detailed description. They have not got back to me about the potential to convert to a different type of steering system.
A closer look under the dash showed that the steering cable did not move through the travel tube at all as I turned the wheel. Also, the rudder will turn fully when I turn the wheel to the left. Turning the wheel right the rudder stops moving at about half as far as it goes when turned left..
I’m pretty sure this confirms the break is in the cable so I’m going to order a new one today.


Posted By: Cyclone
Date Posted: June-08-2020 at 12:56pm
Keno I just wanted to say thank you about the cable and tube info. The boat steers well on the water with the older short throw cable setup. Like you said it may have less angle than the longer setup but it works for me. I still havemany things to finish but it runs and steers good on its first run on the lake. I'm happy


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-08-2020 at 1:18pm
It takes like 10 minutes to spin the cable out of the helm and you’ll know if it’s broken or not. It’s literally 1 nut.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: June-08-2020 at 6:37pm
My project is on hold
Because no one has any steering cables in stock right now.. nautique parts, Miami nautique, my local dealer in northern wi. If anyone knows of any places that may have them in stock and can ship let me know!


Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: June-08-2020 at 6:41pm
Originally posted by Cyclone Cyclone wrote:

Keno I just wanted to say thank you about the cable and tube info. The boat steers well on the water with the older short throw cable setup. Like you said it may have less angle than the longer setup but it works for me. I still havemany things to finish but it runs and steers good on its first run on the lake. I'm happy


Glad it worked out for you nice and cheaply, now back to Andrew's problem


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-08-2020 at 6:52pm
Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

My project is on hold
Because no one has any steering cables in stock right now.. nautique parts, Miami nautique, my local dealer in northern wi. If anyone knows of any places that may have them in stock and can ship let me know!

Andrew,
You mentioned the cable doesn't move when you turn the helm but have you had a chance to pull the cable out to confirm it's the cable and not something in the helm itself?
What are all the dealers saying about delivery on the special cable?

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Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: June-09-2020 at 1:25am
Where exactly are you in "Northern WI" are you? We are in Minocqua, and I got a "go to" boat guy, who more than likely would have the cable.

Dan


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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: June-09-2020 at 1:44am
Dan,
What are the chances.. I live in the minocqua area as well.!
I would be interested in reaching out to your boat guy..
You can send me
An email with the info if you feel
Comfortable...

kelly.andrewd@gmail.com

Andrew


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-09-2020 at 8:15am
Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:

I got a "go to" boat guy, who more than likely would have the cable.
Dan

Dan,
Did you catch that the cable needed is the special longer stroke length made just for CC?

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-09-2020 at 8:33am
Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

My project is on hold
Because no one has any steering cables in stock right now.. nautique parts, Miami nautique, my local dealer in northern wi.

Local dealer, Plowmans or Watercraft?

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Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: June-09-2020 at 12:18pm
Yep..I DID catch that...that would be the 19.5 ft correct????



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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-09-2020 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:

Yep..I DID catch that...that would be the 19.5 ft correct????


No, it's a special stroke. https://www.skidim.com/departments.asp?dept=1120" rel="nofollow - Skidim has a good description/explanation.

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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: June-09-2020 at 11:02pm
I tried calling watercraft.. Plowmans is not a nautique dealer.
Hoping to hear back from some places this week on a timeline .


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-10-2020 at 9:20am
Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

I tried calling watercraft.. Plowmans is not a nautique dealer.
Hoping to hear back from some places this week on a timeline .

Andrew,
That's odd since Plowmans https://www.bing.com/search?q=nautique+dealer+in+wisconsin&form=EDNTHT&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&msnews=1&rec_search=1&plvar=0&refig=069ac7430d7c4b58851d7603738b2891&sp=-1&pq=nautique+dealer+in+wisconsin&sc=1-28&qs=n&sk=&cvid=069ac7430d7c4b58851d7603738b2891" rel="nofollow - shows up in a search Do you know if they were a dealer at one time? If they were, maybe they still have the special cable in stock?

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Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: June-10-2020 at 11:23am
Ryden Marine for ALL of your Nautique needs!

Plowman's is now a Lund and Bennington only and wont touch Nautiques. (I've tried).



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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: June-10-2020 at 12:07pm
So does ryden carry parts as well? They are close to my house so that would work well if they did.. I have a friend that works at Plowmans and yeah they really only deal with the brands you mentioned


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-10-2020 at 12:13pm
Dan and Andrew,
I'm still curious why Plowmans shows up in the search. Was Plowmans ever a Nautique dealer?

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-10-2020 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by Andrewkelly1983 Andrewkelly1983 wrote:

So does ryden carry parts as well?

Andrew,
Did you have a chance to open this link? https://www.skidim.com/departments.asp?dept=1120" rel="nofollow - Skidim has a good description/explanation.

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Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: June-10-2020 at 3:52pm
Hey Pete, I've talked to Plowman's several times, and am under the impression they were never Nautique dealers or servicers. I've only been up here in the Northwoods about 12 years now, so maybe before the current owners????    I just know that the people I bought my 93 SN from, bought it and always took it over for service to Three Lakes.   

Now I do it myself, OR I trust Peter over at Ryden Marine to work on it as well.



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Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: June-24-2020 at 11:08pm
Just wanted to give a quick update and a thanks to the board for helping me with my
Project thus far.

I removed the steering cable at the helm and sure enough it was snapped in half. I had to remove the tag end that remained through the overflow tube.

I finally was able to get the replacement cable from
Nautique parts after it was on back order for a while.

I have the back seat removed and will start the replacement this weekend.
Thanks again -Andrew


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Date Posted: June-25-2020 at 7:11am


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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: June-25-2020 at 10:20am
When you pull the new cable through, tie an extra cord on to it.

Then you would have it in place if you want to pull an extra wire through someday in the future.

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Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: June-25-2020 at 11:47am
glad you found your problem. I too just got done repacking my rudder, as well as installing a new steering cable. I can now turn my steering easily with one finger. SO much better, and was a fairly inexpensive fix.


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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-25-2020 at 12:11pm
Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:

glad you found your problem.

Me too especially after 3 pages, one month and not following the suggestion in the very first post after the initial question.

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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: June-25-2020 at 12:14pm
Congrats on finding the problem, good luck as you finish the replacement.


Posted By: Andrewkelly1983
Date Posted: June-25-2020 at 12:26pm
Yeah I am a bit of an over analyzer on most things!! Thanks for bearing with me.



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