Best Slalom Boat
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Printed Date: June-11-2024 at 7:23pm
Topic: Best Slalom Boat
Posted By: Shortline
Subject: Best Slalom Boat
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 7:04pm
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What late model year of SN boat stands out as the greatest hard core slalom boat, and in what configuration ie. engine/tranny combination? Also, what makes it the greatest?
Bill ------------- It wouldn't be that hard if the balls weren't so far apart and the boat wasn't going so damn fast! |
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Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 7:55pm
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Probably the those made just before wakeboarding became popular. ------------- Tim D |
Posted By: Shortline
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 7:58pm
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That's funny. Doesn't help much, but funny just the same. ------------- It wouldn't be that hard if the balls weren't so far apart and the boat wasn't going so damn fast! |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 8:05pm
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Well it's true. I would say a 1992 probably had very flat wakes for slalom. ------------- Tim D |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 8:14pm
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Nautiques, anything 97 and later is incredible. Some say the 97-2000 (TSC1) is the best. But, I've skied an 02 and 03, and they were incredible as well. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 9:18pm
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tsc1 is like sauteed butter. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995 - 95 Sport |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 8:41am
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TSC2 ('02-05) has a slight advantage over the TSC1 ('97-01)- it has a slightly smaller rooster tail. TSC3 ('06+) should be the same as TSC2 for slalom.
My boat has a pretty decent slalom wake, but the newer boats are even better. ------------- |
Posted By: jdarwin
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 11:46am
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Having been on Nautique's promo team for 14 years (91-05), I can say that the 97-01 were the best hulls. I recently drove a 2002 and found the wakes worse than my 97 - I don't remember that to be the case at the time - quite surprising. The 2004-2006 hulls were an improvement but for the money, I like the cla$$ic looks and great performance of the 97-99 boats. ------------- jdarwin@lakesatcottonwood.com |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 11:50am
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For the second part of your question, the GT40 MPI engine is generally considered the best skiboat powerplant out there in terms of reliability and performance (Sorry Rob).
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Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 11:52am
| Speed is an important factor here- my TSC1 28 off wake felt like a brick wall at 30MPH- right at the rooster. Hopefully that goes away at 34. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 12:08pm
Agreed- thats where the TSC2 is noticeably better than the TSC1, IMHO. Also agree with Joel on the GT40- Ive never lined up a 330 Excalibur against the GT40, but the Ford feels stronger, at least out of the hole. ------------- |
M3Fan wrote:Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 12:18pm
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At that speed and line the roost is 6-8' behind you. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 12:20pm
If somebody brings an EX 196 to GL we'll line 'em up. |
Posted By: Darrel
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 12:24pm
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Almost agree on the GT40, I get a better feel...as in throttle response with a carbed GT40. Feels torq-ier than MPI, especially as rpms increase.
M3, why are you running 28 off @ 30mph? |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 12:26pm
I was just screwing around freeskiing at the end of the season. My form is not the best, but it certainly was not sauteed butter! |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 12:27pm
I have this run on video - I'll review the footage. |
Posted By: rleinen79
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 12:54pm
 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7744" rel="nofollow - 2006 Ski 206 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1123" rel="nofollow - 97 SNOB |
Posted By: Shortline
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 6:27pm
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Thanks for all of the input. I am sold on the GT-40 MPFI and leaning toward the 1997 to 2001 models. ------------- It wouldn't be that hard if the balls weren't so far apart and the boat wasn't going so damn fast! |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: November-08-2006 at 8:37am
Cool. I spoke in regards to 28 off @34, to avoid ambibuity. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: SGY1
Date Posted: November-09-2006 at 11:17am
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Having had both the TSC1 and TSC2 boats, I'd say that the TSC2 boat has a slight edge. Both ski great--soft wakes at all line lenghts and speeds, IMHO. (Never skied 28 off at 30mph, but I'm not surpised there was a good sized bump.)
The TSC2 boats have a wee bit more interior room and seem to handle better at docking speeds. Also, I love the GM Excalibur. I think the pull from a skier's standpoint in the course feels softer and is much more forgiving. That's important for a guy like me that's still struggles at 15 off/34mph. The GT-40 pulls like a freight train. I'm heading to Orlando tonight to ski behind the new Response RLXi at Drew Ross' place. I'm curious how that'll ski in comparision to the 196 and the old RLXi. |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: November-09-2006 at 1:09pm
I completely agree. Probably the first ski boat I ever drove which backed up almost straight. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-09-2006 at 1:14pm
I wonder if that has something to do with the Acme props. I'm pretty sure I can back to the right just as well in my boat as I can my father's ('03 196). ------------- |
Posted By: Shortline
Date Posted: November-09-2006 at 3:28pm
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What years have the TSC2 hulls? How does the engine make a difference in the feel behind the boat? ------------- It wouldn't be that hard if the balls weren't so far apart and the boat wasn't going so damn fast! |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-09-2006 at 3:30pm
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Hull years:
TSC1: 1997-2001 TSC2: 2002-2005 TSC3: 2006+ ------------- |
Posted By: SGY1
Date Posted: November-09-2006 at 3:57pm
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I don't know for certain why the Excalibur motor feels softer. Maybe its the torque curve on the motors. As has been said here before, the GT-40 has lots of torque, more than the Ex330. As a consequence, it doesn't give in the same way as the lower torque motor.
I noticed the difference in pull immediately when I went from my GT-40 beast to a 2003 206 with the EX330--and then to my current 2005 196. One thing to keep in mind is that my 99 SNOB didn't have the most updated Perfect Pa$$ chip. That may play a role in it as well. And, I'm fairly sure you could adjust the pull of the boat by playing with the KX/PX. The prop may also play a role. In 99, CC wasn't using the Acme prop. To qualify this a bit further, several guys who ski tournaments here in Colorado have mentioned to me that they prefer the EX330. FWIW. P.S. On all other counts, I loved my GT-40 motor. That thing was a beast and it was bullet proof. |