Thoughts on "Originality" of old boats
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Topic: Thoughts on "Originality" of old boats
Posted By: bkhallpass
Subject: Thoughts on "Originality" of old boats
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 1:25pm
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We've had some discussion recently regarding how original to keep these old boats. We've got some purists who have done an amazing job of restoring to original. Others keep the cosmetics stock but have no problem tweaking the engines, or changing the color of the interior. Still others want it original, but have no problem adding some modern conveniences like cupholders, or a powerful stereo.
I think I take a middle of the road approach. The analogy I use is cars. It drives me nuts to see someone take a perfectly restored Model A and cut it up for a Hot Rod. However, I have no problem with an old wreck whether it is turned into a hot rod or restored to its original glory. With the boats, I hate to see a tower added to something like a 63 Cla$$ic. It was one of the first fibergla$$ CCs, and there just aren't that many around. However, I don't have much problem with guys that tweak the 82-89 Nautiques. There's lots of them out there, some original, some not. Just curious what view some of the rest of you take? BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
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Posted By: Behl
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 1:34pm
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It's like you say "depends what you start whith". Mine had already been redone from original; therefor, I had no problem making the upgrades and none stock look. ------------- Steve in Indy http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1702&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - Redone 1977 Ski Tique |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 1:40pm
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I have been going through the same discussion (with myself) over how to redo my skier. I started from not much (BKH's wreck) and am redoing it completely. I have decided to go back as close to original as I can since most of the original hardware, etc was there. I think if you are going to use the boat a lot, it is hard not to add some modern conviences to it. Mine is one of four for me & will not be an everyday user, so if I want the extras I can take out one of the other ones. Some of those modernized look cool though! ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 1:41pm
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I agree with the first 2 statements. If you have a chance to keep it original, do it. There are plenty other hacked out boats/cars to play with. Granted, this really only applies to older boats. On the flip side, as long as you do a good quality job, I'm all for it. Cosmetics can usually be reversed.
"New" to me still goes back 10+ years. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 1:49pm
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Brian, I'm one of the purest's you refered to but you have brought up some excelent points. The older the boat is, the more to "factory original" I like to see them. Internal mods to the newer V8's aren't a problem with me as long as they aren't so drastic that it alters the say idling as a example. The turning point for me would be about 1985 when the latest styles of hulls came out. Of coarse this brings up the problem of what is the purest going to think about these not original boats 20 years from now? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 1:59pm
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Great topic, Brian. I like keeping everything as original as possible. I was bummed when I couldn't find the original rubber that goes on the guide posts. I went with a aftermarket tube that looks like a dryer vent hose. Other than that, I'm 100% original.
Everyone has their own style, but I'm not a big fan of new graphics on a cla$$ic CC boat. I prefer the extended pylons versus bolting on a tower. IMO, if I'm paying for a new interior, that shop is going to 100% duplicate the same material, style and colors. I have no issues with "tweaking" the performance, such as engine and prop. I do like the old school Ski Nautique font graphics on the 06's and 07's. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 2:17pm
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I would love to run out and buy an 2007 SN 196. I chose my boat because I need a tournament quality tow but could not afford the new boats. This spring I'll be sporting Perfect Pa$$ Digital Pro and an ACME 540 prop. Two things that are essential to a solid pa$$ through the bouys. I have replaced the dash pod with that of a 2003 model and installed Faria guages. The throttle lever is the new style as well. I have gone to great lenghts to ensure that these modifications don't look like modifications.
There may be some more changes coming when the floor is finished. Don't want to put my head out on the chopping block. Bottom line, I don't follow the purist view of keeping it origional when I can make improvements whether performance or ergomomic that don't make the boat look like Frankenstien. ------------- Bill http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks - http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks 1987 SN Rebuild Project |
Posted By: 82tique
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 3:03pm
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To me it depends on where you spend the most time with the boat.....
-if you enjoy spending time showing it off at the ramp while it sits on a trailor or idling around the lake then by all means keep it original. -if you prefer the veiw from the 'end of the rope' then take advantage of modern upgrades to improve your riding. It's a personal choice for everyone, just remember neither is wrong or right. It's about having fun. ------------- Life is Good. |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 3:37pm
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I'd say I'm middle of the road, with maybe a lean toward the purist side. Like with my '78 I got rid of the bolted on lexan piece which the speedometers were attached to, faired out the dash and used a hole saw to cut a couple holes to put the speedos back in. And with my interior I looked at a few different patterns, colors & all that, & i could not bring myself to using the yellow interior again so i went with an early 90's design. To me as long as it's done right I don't have a problem with most things, Graphics can be interchanged within a couple years of the actual boat but I'm not a big fan of people putting 'Air' graphics on a "70's Ski' just doesn't look right. I don't know, it's a matter of personal opinion but as long as it's tastefully done then i don't have any qualms with modifications, as long as it doesn't take away from the cla$$ic lines & styling of the boat (Like your example BKH of a '63 cla$$ic with a tower).
Whew! that was long... Sorry guys, haha Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 4:20pm
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Good points all. I guess what it comes down to is what makes you more comfortable. Obviously, the more original you keep a cla$$ic the more it will be worth in the future if you plan on selling it. If you plan to keep it until the good Lord calls your number and you want to make upgrades to it. Go for it. Personally, I equate this to cla$$ic muscle cars. The purists say don't touch a '71 hemi 'Cuda convertible. That particular car a purist is going to have sit in a controlled environment and never even start the thing. What fun is that???? But you can say that you have one sitting in your garage. Whoopee!!!! I want a driver and if that means I want to put some new technology after market add-ons that make the machine more reliable, more enjoyable and more importantly, safer for me and my pa$$engers, I'm going to do it. Now if it does all this and still makes it faster and gives you a significanty better hole-shot that's even better.
There was another post in here about fire extinquishers. You purists shouldn't even think about having one physically attached to the boat if you really want to be a purist. I certainly don't like the idea of carrying a fire extinquisher as part of your boating paraphernalia whenever you decide to make a day of it. That's just me. I'll find someplace to put a fire extinquisher to keep my me and my pa$$engers safe. Just as I'll put in electronic ignition, HP upgrades, a kick a$$ stereo and anything else that I deem as essential to a fun and safe boating experience. If you want a purist machine, than keep it purist. If you want a driver than do that. Just don't chastise me about my driver. |
Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 4:40pm
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I'm waiting for somebody to pitch a curve ball as there's too much agreement here, and I'm with you most of you guys completely, as I'm walking the liberal purist line. I do have a younger buddy however, (name withheld, but a member with a 70 Mustang) who wants to create a restomod. If I've got a late 70s Tique that was in need of a total restoration, I thought it might be acceptable to allow this boat, of which there are many hulls out there, to receive "cosmetic" upgrades in terms mostly of paint and interior, and not be spat upon by the ma$$es. And it could always be changed back. Further food for that thought, there were never black or darker blue hulls of that style back when, and only white Tique hulls. Just thinking out loud. ------------- ReidP /diaries/details.asp?ID=231&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - 1973 Mustang |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 4:50pm
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Further food for thought. I think we've seen some of the biggest modifications on older boats from some of the European and Australian guys. Cheaterpete is one that comes to mind. I guess it makes sense. The boats seem to be inordinately expensive over there forcing people into older boats. The older boats there seem to be really beat up, and parts aren't cheap or easy to come by. If I recall, Cheaterpete was a Hot Rod guy on the car side as well. Painted his boat with flames, and was changing out the original engine in favor of a Corvette engine. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 4:58pm
Here are a few pics of what I brought home and you can compare to the pics in my link below with the changes we made. We changed the stripe and carpet color and updated the interior but I think the boat still has a cla$$ic look to it. I even struggled with upgrading the motor just a bit from stock but decided to go for it because the mods won't really be obvious to anyone. I must admit, as these boats get older I hate to see them altered too much.
Yes the beads came with the boat. ------------- |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 5:03pm
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reidp; not to throw a curve ball, nor to inject my redneck sense of See All & Know All,but it is amazing how my sense of what is right and what is wrong .If it floats your boat and it don't sink mine,who does it hurt?There is very little purist in me ,It's that hind sight that tells me ;"I wish i would have given that more thought".
My main issue at 52 is to go fast,ie lottsa G's and the boat still look like a 1964 cla$$ic............. boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 5:32pm
SkiBum, do you have a pic of the '03 dash installed? The pic in your diary shows the Faria gauges in the original dash. Id say Im mostly a purist. Boats like this make me cringe. 
For the most part I prefer that the exterior of a boat remain year-correct. Minor subtle changes can be ok (I have changed my bow light and removed some stickers towards the stern). I think that interior improvements can look good if done right- Alan and 79SkiNautique come to mind with their updated, but cla$$y looking vinyl. Functional improvements are always good- but they look much better when done right, like this wide observer seat in a Tique. 
As far as improvements that are largely hidden, Im all for them. Dripless shaft seals, electronic ignition, Acme props, etc. I think engine upgrades are perfectly acceptable (obviously). The only possible exception would be on a rare older motor, such a clean all-original H/M. ------------- |
SkiBum wrote:Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 5:46pm
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I like stock, mild and (wild if it's yours and happy with it)My faorites are subtle mods that draw you in, but make you think ... oh I get it now. I saw a 55 chevy small block with 3 stromberg carbs that was clean,clean,clean.
As I talked to the owner & drooled on his car I noticed the carbs were just air horns,and the intake had custom port injection bungs welded in. Camo IROC Z tuned port injection. BRILLIANT !!! I have to go lay down now! ------------- - waterdog - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3896&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - 78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: jon4pres
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 6:16pm
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Do with the boat what you want.
I bought an 82 2001 because I wanted a super solid boat that would be good for wakeboarding. I will continue changing the boat to make it do what I need it to. Basically do what makes you smile. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1801&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980 - 82 2001 jon4pres@gmail.com Fort Scott Kansas |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 6:41pm
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TRBenj, did you read that guys description of that boat on ebay? Crazy, I bet it's a '67 Barracuda, going by the bow scoop and the emblem over the steering wheel. ------------- Tim D |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 6:50pm
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Im gonna guess '70 Barracuda, judging by the flat-top motorbox. Lots of discussion in http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5502&PN=1 - this thread. ------------- |
Posted By: Behl
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 6:55pm
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What I did to my Tique was to make a rig for the wife and I to just ride while wanting a boat that looked good to me. The wood look of old and the style of the boats just therafter. No way near being pure.
As far as being pure we do have my wifes first car, which she bought May 1967. A 1967 Mustang Conv in springtime yellow with a black top and interior. The graw back to this car is it is a 200 CUI 3 speed. Car has been OEM parts througt out andh as been drive only 4000 miles in the 10 years since being restored ------------- Steve in Indy http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1702&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - Redone 1977 Ski Tique |
Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 7:20pm
here is a 82-83, at first I thought it was to over the top, but after looking at more I now think they did a very nice job on it. It is a personal choice, just dont do it in pink..
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Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 7:42pm
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Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: January-12-2007 at 9:12pm
The photo in the diary is of the new dash pod. Apparently it is not '03. Regardless, it is not the '87. It fits perfectly on the old dash. Where the ignition switch and control switches are located I used a 1/8" thick piece of wood, laminated it with resin, then primed, painted, and clear coated it to a dark grey color. I recently purchased a yard of carbon cloth. One of my sub projects is to use laminate that carbon cloth for an even nicer look.  ------------- Bill http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks - http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks 1987 SN Rebuild Project |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 12:29am
OK, back to that ebay boat, not trying to start an argument, but this pic is from the reference section, a '68
and I know this is a 1971 Skier, same scoop as the '71's brochure in the ref. section. 
What kind of bow scoop does a 70's model have? That ebay boat looks to have the scoop of the first pic. ------------- Tim D |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 12:53am
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MaddMarxx... now those two boats I REALLY like, especially the 2nd one, like i said it all comes down to if it's tastefully done and professionally done(or at least be able to make it look professional) that 2nd one if probably what i would do to my next boat when i do manage to get a '87-89 SN/BFN. That first one's def. different from what I've seen, but it's well done, not too much, at least for me, but what do i know?
Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 1:07am
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MM, I remember thinking how nicely those boats were restored (despite being non-original) the first time you posted them. Gives them some personality on a lake with no shortage of CC's- very cool.
Tim, I dont see a scoop on the ebay boat. Looking through the diaries, I cant tell a difference between the '67-70 Cudas (although I believe that some 70 models had the square windshields). I a$$umed incorrectly that the curved motorboxes were used through '69 like the Mustang. SkiBum, you can get the "Ski Nautique" and "Correct Craft" emblems through a dealer. If you want the "Performance engineered for..." emblem, you have to get it directly from CC. You have integrated the dash very nicely- do you mind me asking where you got it? Just FYI, I believe your dash is from a 90-93 boat (not 2003), as your upper dash appears to be the same as mine (and looks nothing like my dad's). 1990: 
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Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 3:43am
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This one did look good a few years back, but the gel on the bottom is shot now.
Reid..a black boat sounds good, but down in FL it would be a frying pan in the sun!! 
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 8:05am
Correct Craft kept the line of picture 1 through 1970. The 2nd picture design started in 1971. There have been posts of Barracudas and Mustangs with the 60's hull and decks listed as 1971's or 1972's. Some with square windhields and othes with hardware from the 1970's. I don't know what the story with those boats really is. There were 2 Barracuda hulls. A short one and a long one. The long one had a larger deck that overhanged more. The short hull had the fibergla$$ motorbox and the long hull had the wood motor box that was upolstured. It seems starting in 1968 the interior on the Barracuda was slightly different. The padding on the sides had a brown insert and there was a glove box. There are a lot of Mustangs and Skylarks listed as 1966-1968 that have the old American Skier decks and not the scooped decks shown in the 1966 brochure. It's not always easy to tell what was original, or even if the year is correct. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 8:42am
I'm guessing it's the slightly smaller version of the 90+ dash used in the 89 SN and/or the sport nautiques. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 9:08am
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Correct Craft did not have alot of consistency in the early years especially on purchased hardware. I have seen ether 2 or 4 step pads and 3 different styles on the same year and model. Flat gla$$ windshields or the old curved plexi on the last run of the 60's hulls. Upholstered and plain fibergla$$ motor boxes. Coaming crash pads or none to name a few. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 11:01am
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There is even a Mustang in the diary section that the transom looks like you could mount an I/O in it.Vents and scoops seem to be put on anywhere on them, so I believe if you like the boat go for it.It also seems many deck configurations have also been used,lower horsepower,more plain decks.Mine has a wood motorbox which I think was because of the motor,why build a special mold for fibergla$$ when not many boats came with that motor. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 63CCSN
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 1:39pm
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Hi,
I would say that if you have a very early Fibergla$$ CC you should go as orginal as you can. There just aren't that many around like that. I woul say that upgrades should be based on safety or reliable performance only. For example I am working on a 63 Ski Nautique, with a 312 interceptor. It had the side draft carbs on it, and they flood very easily. So I will be putting a 4 barrel intake and modern Holly carb on it. This will require a slightly higher motor box. Other than that she will be stock when she is finished. That's just my $0.02. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 2:33pm
Youre absolutely right. I visited an '88 today and it had the same dash as SkiBum's pictured above. '89 would have been the same. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 2:37pm
In the 1966 brochure, the Wildcat on the cover has a curved windshield. Inside the brochure, it has a square windshield. I have a friend that has a 1966 Wildcat that he bought new and it has the curved one. Later models seem to have the square one. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 4:14pm
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63csn, You may have missed my post in the "how fast is fast" thread regarding the 312 with the Carter side drafts in my Dunphy X55. I mentioned the setting of the float levels not per the instructions that come with the rebuild kit. I rebuilt the side draft carbs when I bought it and never had a problem with them in the 26 years of owning the boat. I encourage you stay original just as you have recomended in your post. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 4:55pm
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Pete,
I was kind of thinking that for the guys who like to restore the old ones, part of the fun is making "oudated" technology work well. Seems likes there's bragging rights in saying "I made the side drafts work perfectly." BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: 65 'cuda
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 7:24pm
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I painted the topsides white, added a stereo and a swim platform to mine, but kept every thing else as original as I could. The stereo is mounted under the dash, not through it. The swim platform just adds a lot of function to the boat, I'm adding a bilge blower this winter, which will add a couple of clam shell vents to the stern that were not there in '65 but there is so much hardware back there now it won't matter.
------------- Gary http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=941" rel="nofollow - 1965 Barracuda SS |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 7:36pm
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 8:26pm
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Brian, I just got back from a Blackhawk chapter ACBS outing to see the progress of the restoration progress of a 1898 85' lake Geneva "lake" launch. It had been converted from steam to the present engine which is a 1200 C.I. 6 cly. Lathrop. Talk about making "outdated" work, the restorer has had to have a pattern made and is having the cylinders re-cast. (they are individual cylinders) Yes, part of the fun is to make the old work. In the case of the Carter AF side drafts I think they were a great idea and save probably 6" in engine height. They have performed flawlessly for me on a boat that stock does 64. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 8:48pm
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Hey Pete,
Have you ever visited the Sierra Boat Company in Lake Tahoe? They do some great work retoring old cla$$ics. Not only the woodwork, but they are known for putting back together original engines. As you mentioned, quite an effort when you have to make the parts. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 10:42pm
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Brian: Nice thread, very interesting.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-13-2007 at 11:03pm
That's a short hull Barracuda. |
Posted By: Chopper
Date Posted: January-14-2007 at 9:13pm
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My thoughts are: It's "old" versus "cla$$ic"
What defines a cla$$ic.? Is it the age of the vessel.? Is it the model.? Is it rare.? My thoughts are that there has to be something particular about either a specific boat, or about that model boat. I'll use cars to explain my analogy. (I'm using my limied knowledge of US cars here, so forgive me it I stuff it up.) Take two 1962 Chevs in factory original condition. One is a belair with the 289, the other a bubble top with the 409. Now both are worth something, but the belair is simply a nice old car. It is the bubble top that is the cla$$ic because it was a special production of limited numbers etc. If the same two cars were being restored, you could get away with modifying the belair, but modifications to the bubble top will detract from its original significance. Now compare that to a mid 80's Chev Eldarado. It could be the most factory condition eldarado in the world, but at the end of the day, what is special about it.? Is it worth anything.? Getting back to boats, I have a 98 SN. If it's still around in 2048, will it become cla$$ic.? I doubt it, because there is nothing special about it. In my opinion, cla$$ic correct crafts are boats that were factory specials that were different from the standard production model. Made from special materials, ie wood. Or even if there are very few of a particular model left. These types of vessels "should" (IMO) be restored to factory "like" specs to keep the heritage going. I also believe the factory should actively encourage this for their heritage sake. For anything else, do what you like. It won't overly effect the value of the boat. The main reason I see for modification is to cater for your needs. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1540&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1996&yrend=2000 - 98 Ski |
Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: January-14-2007 at 10:55pm
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well put chopper ------------- Bill http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks - http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks 1987 SN Rebuild Project |
Posted By: 69 Mustang
Date Posted: January-14-2007 at 11:38pm
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Hi Chopper,
While I don't disagree with you, your post made me wonder what the group thinks about these two situations: Say that run-of-the-mill 1962 belair was the first one off the a$$embly line - is it still simply a nice old car? Say the run-of-the-mill 1962 belair you have is the last one left - is it still simply a nice old car? What if one day your great-grandchild discovers your old 98 SN is the last one left? No value judgement about what anyone does with what they own, just curious. ------------- For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. "Where the **** are we?" Amelia Earhart. July 2, 1937 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 5:49am
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Brian, Sierra boat is someplace I want to go to someday since I have heard everthing about it. We do have some good old boat shops here in the midwest too but not as famous. Of coarse I would not want to go to any of them without any money since I know I would need to buy something!!
69, I agree since some of the older "cla$$ics" are already in short supply. Drawing the line at what is "cla$$ic" remains the problem and is complicated with personal taste. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Chopper
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 8:04pm
G'day 69, If you had the 1st made, or the last left in existance of anything, then, indeed it would be a special thing. I just used cars as an example as there make more cars than boats, which means there are more "specials" around. That also means that would be much less boat "specials" made. Personaly I would draw the line in the sand and say that anything prior to the "2001" hull (1982?) possibly even a little further back (mid 70's) could be considered cla$$ic. From the "2001" onwards they seem to be typical production line boats where the customer ticks the option box, & that's all they made. I know they made a Silver Nautique" which was a special, but that's about it. Just my thoughts. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1540&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1996&yrend=2000 - 98 Ski |
Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 9:11am
At one point i thought of putting a tower on mine.......but.....just couldn't do it.....i must have been drunk at the time
Keep it original!!!! that's my Vote.  ------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 10:47am
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312, Great looking boat. Fill me in on the coaming under the engine hatch. Did CC put it in to raise the hatch so a downdraft carb would fit under it or was it added at a later date? I have the 312 with the Carter side drafts and am aware that Interceptor made the engine with a downdraft but don't know which was used by CC in 67. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 70CC
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 11:39am
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What does a long hull Barracuda look like? I thought they all had basically the same hull and deck from 65 to 70.
Also, is the Barracuda hull identical to the cla$$ic? looks like CC just removed the divider behind the front seat to make the Barracuda. |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 12:21pm
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Hey Paul (67nautique312)
I hear you about being drunk when you thought about putting on a tower, but weren't you probably drunk when you decided not to as well?  ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 12:23pm
I think the cla$$ic is identical to the Barracuda. On the 2 Barracuda's, the deck is different, the hull is probably the same. It is wider. Instead of being pretty flat right out to the sheer rail, it goes out and angles down and extends farther out from the hull. I learned this from owning a 67 Barracida years ago and ordering a cover from the factory and being asked which hull we had. |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 12:33pm
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I like to keep any that I own as original as possible depending on what kind of shape the boat is in when I get it. I have seen some nice custom work done on these boats as well.
I have also seen some that when I look at them I think .... look what some idiot did ??? Nautique Frk |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 12:38pm
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If the boat's is in decent original condition, it ought to be kept that way. If it's so bad that everything has to be replaced, than it may not be practical to restore it to original condition. Some mods just aren't right though, like cutting holes in the dash or deck for stereos or cup holders.
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Posted By: nautiquefanatic
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 12:50pm
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It only takes a few seconds to see in the diaries section that I like my boats as original as possible. There is a reason for that......I love these boats as they were built. Don't get me wrong, I do have my preferences and I currently own exactly what I like. It only takes a few minutes to "customize" something, but may take years to put it back original if you or anyone else ever wanted to. True, as I have used and enjoyed these boats over my lifetime, there are changes that could have been made to make the boats more "comfortable", or pa$$enger friendly. But one must remember that the boats that I personally like are the Ski Nautique, Barefoot Nautique, and Ski Tique......and these were designed and built for one reason........TO PULL SKIERS. No drink holders, no coolers, no radio, basically no B.S. to get in the way. I like it like that, just a personal thing. I don't think there is anything wrong with working on the engines.....stronger, more h.p., etc.....I need to do more of these upgrades myself. Not a single one of my boats have a drink holder, a built in cooler, or a radio. I prefer to either listen to the sound of the engine exhaust or the gentle slapping of water against the hull while sitting still with engine off.
I will have to say that I prefer ORIGINAL! Just my personal preference. nautiquefanatic ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3448" rel="nofollow - 1973 Ski Nautique http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=830" rel="nofollow - 1979 Barefoot Nautique |
Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 3:58pm
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Ok here we go.......
1)Changed paint 2)motor is no longer original(8122 I removed the side drafts and installed a Blue thunder intake,portmatched and ported and pollished intake and exhaust valves,Also all new coil and elec. ignition instead of points.) I did keep all original parts to the motor.see first pic. 3)Motor cover is off of an early mustang of same era......I needed it for clearance and also had to add a base plate for extra clearance as seen in picture.see pic. #2 4)Also the correct craft emblems on back sides of boat i only had one on one side so..... i filled the holes and moved it to the back of the boat in the middle.see pic. #3 5)Added speakers and stereo system amps ect. ect. So i guess that mine is really far from original but close enough and serves the puposses that i need and still have that cla$$ic boat feel. The good thing about it is that i still have all the original parts to put it back if i needed to. Really this is what the end result is for me......to have Fun while i can!see pic. #4 I still want to add a swim plattform to it?
If i could get my hands on an old barracuda SS i think i would make it all original this time. 8122....here is a pic. also of the motor if you want to see it? 
------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Dtaylor373
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 4:57pm
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360 Hours bought from the orginal owner 3 months ago. Been detailed out, and seats redone. Engine cover is orginal, owner bought a new one from Correct Craft in 79 after he did damage to the one in the boat, got it when I bought the boat, he had never put it on.
www.dtaylor373.zoomshare.com 
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Posted By: 882001
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 10:49pm
as long as its done in good taste mods are cool. ------------- kemah texas http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=163&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990 - 1988 skinautique "2001" |
Posted By: 882001
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 10:49pm
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[ ------------- kemah texas http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=163&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990 - 1988 skinautique "2001" |
Posted By: Chopper
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 11:13pm
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312,
That ride looks awsome. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1540&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1996&yrend=2000 - 98 Ski |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 11:45pm
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hey Paul,
Ive been looking for a long time...where is that Correct Craft emblem you keep talking about on the back of your boat?  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 12:37am
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Wood: I don't see it either and I have been checking very closely.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 7:15am
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Nautique312, Although not original, I must compliment you on your work. Tastefully and well done. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 9:50pm
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dtaylor; Awesome lookin' boat! Looks just like my first one, a '78. Aren't those front windows cool? How did you ever find one with only 3oo some hours?
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Dtaylor373
Date Posted: January-18-2007 at 6:33am
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Thanks,jbear, I guess there may have been a little luck in finding her, but who cares. I have had several nice boats and sold them all, but I believe the 78, is here to stay.
------------- David T |
Posted By: NAUTI84
Date Posted: January-18-2007 at 7:11am
Wow David T, I think I'm in love  .
Very nice! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: January-18-2007 at 8:58am
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Chopper........Thx for the compliment!! I wish i had one like yours though!!!! The wowmen seem to like the modern conveniences of "The Newer Boats"Wanna trade?
Wood.....its really there and not a figment of your imagination!! Got Wood??? Jbear.....Those are the "Beer a$$istants" I talked about. 
David.....Man what a find that is!!!Beautiful boat!! Paul, ------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-18-2007 at 10:10pm
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Paul; I know I am gonna regret saying this but......Beer a$$istants and "Got Wood" in the same post may be pushing the boundries of good taste.
Hows the weather by the way? john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |