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Topic: american skier
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Subject: american skier
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 5:48pm
If CC originally made a correct craft American Skier model, why did they allow American Skier to become a naufacturer name brad???

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 5:58pm
They never registered the name.

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 6:13pm
Looks like the American Skier boat company started in '76 and CC's model ended in '79. They sure did make a name for themselves though.

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Posted By: SeattleFordFan
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 6:33pm
Copyright Infringment didnt mean anything in those days. Different car manufactures shared model names back and forth in the day, but these days people can sue for anything. Ford wants to sue, or collect royalties, all websites for carrying their name Ford in the blue oval as part of the main logo. People sue Phillip Morris for giving them cancer due to smoking for thirty years.

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Posted By: 63CCSN
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 7:19pm
i know that they aren't a Correct Craft but, does anyone have any thoughts on the American Skiers that were built by Elan. I heard that they were from the same molds as the American Skiers made during the late 80's. As I recall they were great slalom boats.

There is a nice looking 2002 Elan American Skier for sale near me. Good price, low hours. I was thinking about it

Any thoughts on the quality, driveability, skiability of the Elan American Skier? Any input appreciated.

Don't worry I'm not giving up my correct craft!

Thanks!


Posted By: todicus
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 7:41pm
I'm Pretty sure Backfoot100 owns one, and I recall BKH stating on a prior thread that they were considered the Cadillac of ski boats at one time or another.

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Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 7:56pm
Ed is the man to ask about American Skier the manufacturer. Hell he wheeled off who made what and who owned it when so fast one day it made my head spin.

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Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 8:10pm
I have an 86 American Skier in my stable (That is pre Elan days though). It is a great slalom boat. Nice flat wake, you hardly notice it at all. Just don't get used to it & then get behind the older Nautiques!

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Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 9:41pm
I was wondering if there was some weird split off from CC. You a pissed off designer or something. Doesn't sound like that is the case. I figured if any one knew what the deal was they are here... Wonder how many people bought an american skier thinking they were getting a CC?

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Posted By: SeattleFordFan
Date Posted: September-18-2007 at 10:41pm
I am sorry, I hope your not refering to me about being pissed off, I tend to come across that way when I refer to how people treat others these days.

I do know that back in the day they didnt have problems sharing names though...

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Travs

Where there is a will, there is a way, and where there is a way, it usually costs more money.

1980 Ski Nautique


Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 12:42pm
I do have an '86 American Skier. That was before the Elan days. They started up in '76 in a plant in Opa Locka, FL. by Ken Elkind who was a big time offshore boat racer. He retired and believed that he could build a high quality ski boat that would be the envy of the tournament boat industry. That ran until sometime in the early 90's and the plant ended up closing. They reopened a few years later at a plant in Kentwood, LA. Ron Tanis was the man who bought all the rights and started producing the boats again with the American Skier name. He had all the original molds and was one of the executive officers employed by Elkind. Sometime around 2001 Ben Favret (a Pro Skier) somehow acquired American Skier and changed the name to Elan boats. They then were known as Elan American Skier. I don't know of any Elan boats that were made after '03 I believe. I really don't know the status of the company presently. There is a web site but everything in it hasn't been updated since '03. The boat was considered by many to be the Cadillac of tournament inboards. They are extremely well made and didn't skimp on anything. I have the original price sheet on my boat and it sold for just under $20K in '86. That was probably the reason they didn't catch on very well. Granted, extremely high quality but also the price to go along with the quality. They also never produced more than 400 boats per year that I'm aware of. They were completely made by hand from the ground up. Compare that to the production numbers and prices of a CC, MC and a young startup company by the name of Malibu and the public wasn't ready for the Cadillac of inboards with the Cadillac price.

In '76, the original American Skier model was the Advance and that was the exact same mold used right up through 2003 on the Elan Lazer. The Elan Pro, Elan Eagle Air and Elan Volante models were seperate modified Advance molds. The original Advance was that good from day one. My boat is the Barefoot model which also used the Advance hull. Very few of these made each year.

I would not hesitate to buy a Skier myself, but I'm definitely a little biased. I would absolutely love to find a 2001-2003 Lazer. They tipped the scales at 2100 lbs. and came equipped with a Blue Thunder Marine 320HP engine. A boat that light running that much HP would move out pretty well I think.








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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 12:50pm
Great info Eddie.

Is it my eyes or is your boat listing to the passenger side? Platform looks low on one side high on the other.


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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Is it my eyes or is your boat listing to the passenger side? Platform looks low on one side high on the other.

How much you want to bet he's laying on the floor while someone took the picture?

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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Is it my eyes or is your boat listing to the passenger side? Platform looks low on one side high on the other.

How much you want to bet he's laying on the floor while someone took the picture?


The cooler is on the port side.

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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

How much you want to bet he's laying on the floor while someone took the picture?


39 dollars, or is that MPH?


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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 2:16pm
Or maybe the boat is so ADVANCED that it has built in counterweight for a driver...

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Posted By: todicus
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 2:49pm
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/424996271.html - 87 skier

Looks like Eddie's boat, but not a barefoot.

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Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Is it my eyes or is your boat listing to the passenger side? Platform looks low on one side high on the other.

How much you want to bet he's laying on the floor while someone took the picture?



You nailed it Tim!!!

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Eddie


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

How much you want to bet he's laying on the floor while someone took the picture?


39 dollars, or is that MPH?

Quinner, you owe me $39!

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 3:50pm
Eddie, is it actually you in the boat or your daughter? If it's your daughter CQ owes ME $39.

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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 4:16pm
Eddie, Please clean that boat up a little, looks like there's a leaf on the floor and it's really bugging me.



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Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 7:03pm
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Eddie, is it actually you in the boat or your daughter? If it's your daughter CQ owes ME $39.


It's actually me. My wife took the pic.



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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.



Eddie


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by backfoot100 backfoot100 wrote:

Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Eddie, is it actually you in the boat or your daughter? If it's your daughter CQ owes ME $39.


It's actually me. My wife took the pic.


CQ, Ill email you my address. Ill be expecting that $39 straight away.

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 7:18pm
Tim, CQ is out of the office already I'll go ahead and spot him from my account in Pakistan. First I will need your bank account number, I'll send you $100 then you can give me back $61.

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Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: September-19-2007 at 9:06pm
seattle,
I was not reffering to you as the pissed off person. I just ment someone with in CC being pissed off. Left the company and started a boat manufactured with an already well known name.

Eddie,
thanks for the quick history lesson, really was very interesting and I really like that barefoot skier you have. Looks very sharp.

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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: September-20-2007 at 12:00am
Guys let me tell ya that boat is even better lookin' in person and it is FAST. Gotta admit it is a chevy. Drives very smooth and tight...you would never be able to guess its age.

Tim you gotta be one of the sharper guys on here...right up near BKH. I never noticed...had to scroll back just to look.

john

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Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: September-20-2007 at 1:17am
see Told ya Ed knew his sh*t.

Nice clean motor

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Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: September-20-2007 at 3:03am
Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

see Told ya Ed knew his sh*t.



even if he dont, Im not gonna be the one to tell him other wise..nice boat Ed

there is one at SECC 4-sale and its E-Bay right now under correct craft, it looks good, it has a home made tower on it!

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Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-20-2007 at 3:51am
Wow, awesome boat backfoot100. Here's my 82' American Skier, American Skier. It's had the interior completely redone. Stringers are all original and still rock solid. The floor has also been replaced. I just recently sanded down and refinished the teak.

I was wakeboarding this day so the tower kind of takes away from the boat...









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Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-20-2007 at 12:24pm
Nice lookin' ride Phil. Take care of it. You don't see a whole lot of Skiers out there, let alone any that are in really nice shape. Stick with these guys here and you'll be able to keep that thing lookin' and runnin' like new for a long time.



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Eddie


Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-20-2007 at 7:27pm
Thanks Eddie. Do you happen to know the size of gas tank in my 82' American Skier? I never fill it up full so I'm not really sure. I'm guessing between 15 and 18 gallons....

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Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-20-2007 at 8:51pm
Hey backfoot 100 beautiful boat !! I see that you are a diehard American Skier fan like me. How do you know so much about American Skier? My boat was with Ron Tanis at his shop just south of the old American Skier plant. He actually took me up there to check it out and I have some photos of what is still laying around. What a great guy he was and it was a string of bad luck that brought the company down before Brett Favre bought it and trashed it totally.

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-20-2007 at 9:14pm
By the way backfoot100 here is a pic of my completely original except platform 92 Legend.



Wetamb

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 2:53am
Here are some more that are near my house, I like the older ones, my buddys dad had 2 of them back in 80s that we used to go out on alot!



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Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 3:16am
What year is that brown one? pretty sweet.

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Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 11:11am
Originally posted by phospher phospher wrote:

Thanks Eddie. Do you happen to know the size of gas tank in my 82' American Skier? I never fill it up full so I'm not really sure. I'm guessing between 15 and 18 gallons....


I'm not sure about yours but mine is 22 gallon. I would guess yours is the same or very close.

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Eddie


Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 11:30am
Originally posted by wetamb wetamb wrote:

Hey backfoot 100 beautiful boat !! I see that you are a diehard American Skier fan like me. How do you know so much about American Skier? My boat was with Ron Tanis at his shop just south of the old American Skier plant. He actually took me up there to check it out and I have some photos of what is still laying around. What a great guy he was and it was a string of bad luck that brought the company down before Brett Favre bought it and trashed it totally.


When Ron Tanis reopened the Skier plant in LA. I called the plant to see if I could get more info about my boat. Ron himself answered the phone! I was totally shocked. Without a doubt one of the nicest guys I've ever talked with. I ended up talking with him for a couple hours I think. Told me about the history of the company and his involvement up to that point and where he wanted to take the company. Obviously a very spiritual person too. Just talking with him, you could just tell he has a huge passion for these boats and feels like every one that left the plant was his own personal boat. I would love to meet the man sometime. Too bad things didn't work out as he envisioned.

By the way Brett Favre is QB of the Green Bay Packers. Ben Favret was who succeeded Ron Tanis with the Skier plant.

Also, that is a very sweet Skier that you have there. Take care of it and enjoy the benefits. I could only hope that you can enjoy it as much as I've enjoyed mine.





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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.



Eddie


Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 11:47am
The lack of an upper window frame on that 82 is a great idea.

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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 11:51am
You guys have two great looking, and I figure, great performing boats.
Eddie, how is the wake behing that thing, compared to the BFN's? What engine is in your Skier.
wetamb, that boat is so sharp. When was the picture taken, 1992, or recently?
Lefty

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Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 12:40pm
Originally posted by tullfooter tullfooter wrote:

You guys have two great looking, and I figure, great performing boats.
Eddie, how is the wake behing that thing, compared to the BFN's? What engine is in your Skier.
wetamb, that boat is so sharp. When was the picture taken, 1992, or recently?
Lefty


Tullfooter: Thanks for the compliment ! Pic was taken in March of this year before I had the boat detailed for the summer.

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 12:52pm
Originally posted by backfoot100 backfoot100 wrote:

Without a doubt one of the nicest guys I've ever talked with. I ended up talking with him for a couple hours I think. Just talking with him, you could just tell he has a huge passion for these boats and feels like every one that left the plant was his own personal boat. I would love to meet the man sometime. Too bad things didn't work out as he envisioned.

By the way Brett Favre is QB of the Green Bay Packers. Ben Favret was who succeeded Ron Tanis with the Skier plant.

Also, that is a very sweet Skier that you have there. Take care of it and enjoy the benefits. I could only hope that you can enjoy it as much as I've enjoyed mine.


Ron was and still is very passionate about boats. After spending some time with him a few months ago, you can tell that it still bothers him what happened with American Skier. He appears upset about what Bret/Ben Favre/Favret(no body really cares about this guy anyway ..LOL) did with the name change to Elan and the poor quality of there boats.
As for the enjoyment, I have been benefiting from it for 15 yrs and I hope to keep it for another 15 !!!

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 1:14pm
Just thought that I would also share pics of whats left of the one mold for my American Skier Legend. These were taken at the old factory a few months ago. First one has Ron in the background.


Hull


Top cap view from the back


Top cap view from the front


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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 1:21pm
wetamb,

BEFORE?????

Lefty

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'90 BFN



White Lake, Michigan



Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 1:50pm
Here is my '82 American Skier. Just turned 200 hours total time this summer.


Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 1:57pm
Wow, that 82' is top notch. I wish I had my American Skier chick emblems on the side of mine. Can you post of picture of the back of the boat?

Nice, and I thought I was the only one around here with an 82'. I'm just loving this American Skier talk.

Where do you guys store your boats in the winter? I'm wondering how picky I should be....

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Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 2:00pm
Can any of you guys suggest a rudder for my american skier?

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Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 2:26pm
Tull,
the wake is definitely not buttery smooth like a BFN. Excellent for slalom skiing but narrow and a touch turbulent at barefoot speed and line length. Definitely crossable. The wake is small and the lip is a bit rounded at 75' so you can have a tendancy to skate into the wake doing tricks if you don't have good body position. Much more defined at 80'.

The motor is a special production 300HP 350 Chevy or very close to 300HP anyway. Indmar told me that they only made about 50 per year for a three or four year run. Runs pretty well. I put new heads, intake and MSD dist./ignition in about 7 years ago now. The exhaust manifolds are stock, but I polished them to look like they do. It now has close to 1300 hr's. on it.

Wetamb,
it is such a shame to see molds like that just sitting there. Thanks for sharing those pics.





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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.



Eddie


Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 3:42pm
Here you go Phosper:



Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 4:53pm
Ultrarunner, did you restore the gelcoat? I am very impressed with the look of that. I thought mine was in good shape. Thanks for that pic. I need that rear sticker. Think I can get it made anywhere?

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Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 4:59pm
What lakes do you guys drop your American Skiers on?

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Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 5:51pm
Mark;
That is one really cool lookin' boat. Awesome shape. Nicely done!!!!

Phil;
You can trace any graphics or letters and take them to any good vinyl graphics/lettering place and they should be able to reproduce them. Just be prepared to pay for them. Can't help you with a rudder.

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Posted By: east tx skier
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 6:52pm
Wow! What beautiful bunch of boats. I've met more than a couple of people who owned American Skiers, mostly early 80s models. All were very proud owners and had nothing but great things to say about the boats.

Last I heard about ELAN was that they were considering having a company in FL building the boats, but my memory may be fading their. They had also become very disenfranchised with the AWSA approval process, which apparently has become very costly with the number of boats required between testing and pulling X number of tournaments. Basically, not a favorable situation for a manufacturer that doesn't produce higher volumes.

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Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 6:57pm
ultra...That boat is sweet!

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Posted By: SeattleFordFan
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 8:22pm
Not my boat, but there is one for sale up here in the Great NorthWest. Attached is the Craigslist link.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/boa/428496476.html - Seattle Craigslist American Skier

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Travs

Where there is a will, there is a way, and where there is a way, it usually costs more money.

1980 Ski Nautique


Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 8:25pm
Ultra
Nice boat, looks really good for it's age especially with black gel.

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Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 9:03pm
SeattleFordFan,

anyone who would put a custom wakeboard tower on one of these boats is crazy. i feel like i'm taking away from my boat with a skylon, i would never ever put a true tower on an old ski boat it totally ruins the classic lines.

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Posted By: SeattleFordFan
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 10:23pm
Phospher,

Names Travis, and that isnt my Boat, but what your trying to tell me is to not put the tower on my 80 Ski Nautique, when I go through the restore?

I have one that I got from a friend, he upgraded from, and I have thought about putting it on. Depends on the boat, how it looks.

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Travs

Where there is a will, there is a way, and where there is a way, it usually costs more money.

1980 Ski Nautique


Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 10:38pm
Originally posted by tullfooter tullfooter wrote:

wetamb,

BEFORE?????

Lefty


Yep Lefty before this summers detailing !! It looks even better now !!

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 10:41pm
Originally posted by phospher phospher wrote:

Can any of you guys suggest a rudder for my american skier?


Phospher: Go to Midwestamericanskier.com and email them. Dan Tanis, Ron's brother runs the site and has many parts for alot of the American Skiers or he can tell you were to get your rudder. Also you can registar your boat there. I think that he is keeping a list going of all of the American Skier owners. Maybe we need to get a site of our own !!!

Wetamb

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 10:42pm
Ultra: Killer boat !! Looks like you have alot of time, money and elbow grease in that thing !! Looks better than new !!

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-21-2007 at 10:47pm
Originally posted by phospher phospher wrote:

What lakes do you guys drop your American Skiers on?


I am in the Dallas area but looking to travel to some new places next year with the Skier in tow !!

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-22-2007 at 4:28am
Travis, I realize that the boat on craigslist wasn't yours I was just commenting on the tower. Personally, I would never put a tower on an old classic ski boat, but different strokes for different folks.


Wetamb,

Thanks for the site!!! I've already sent em like 5 emails, I had no idea that was around...

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Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-22-2007 at 1:38pm
Ultra,

How in the world have you kept that great boat under 200 hrs total time ?? U have better control than me. I would be out every weekend showing that thing off. What state you in ?? Would love to come by and check that thing out sometime.

Wetamb

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: wetamb
Date Posted: September-22-2007 at 1:39pm
Originally posted by phospher phospher wrote:

Wetamb,

Thanks for the site!!! I've already sent em like 5 emails, I had no idea that was around...


No problem phospher. Anything to help a fellow American Skier bud !!

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Wetamb

1992 American Skier Legend
2000 38 SeaRay Sundancer


Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: September-22-2007 at 9:15pm
Hey folks, thanks for all the nice comments on my '82 American Skier.

I bought the boat from a family friend last year. It was bought new by my friend from the factory. My boat was specially built for the Miami boat show that year, and featured the black and gray colors you see. It was stored inside since new and only used a few times each summer on a river north of Pittsburgh. I have done nothing to the boat other than new hoses, electronic box for the distributor, coil ect. It has the Commander 351. It's a great boat. I'm in upstate NY.

thanks again.


Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-23-2007 at 8:59pm
Gee, I go away on vacation for a week and folks start coming out of the closet as American Skier owners.

Eddie, I would say the 400 boat per year is not a small production in the ski boat industry. Even today, probably only four companies produce more than 400 per year (CC, MC, Malibu, and Skier's Choice (combined Moomba and Supra lines).

Also, I would say it was not the 20K price tag which was the undoing of American Skier. AS was the real deal. Those who will be honest will tell you they were a better slalom boat than CC during the 80s, and in fact, they were probably the best slalom boat period during that time period.

What happened was that in the late 80s, American Skier was sold to one of the big companies (I can't remember which one). They didn't do well and Ron Tanis bought the company back. He tried to make a go of it for several years, but AS just never returned to the prominence it enjoyed in the early 80s.

BTW - In the late 80s, Mastercraft was also sold to one of the big companies (I believe it was AMF). That too was a disaster. Like American Skier, MC was bought back by former executives of the company. MC faired better than AS in its comeback. BKH

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Livin' the Dream



Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: September-24-2007 at 1:23am
Brian: Sure is nice to have you and all your info back on this site. Please let us know before going away so we don't worry in the future.

john

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"Loud pipes save lives"



AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"...


Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-24-2007 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by bkhallpass bkhallpass wrote:

Gee, I go away on vacation for a week and folks start coming out of the closet as American Skier owners.

Eddie, I would say the 400 boat per year is not a small production in the ski boat industry. Even today, probably only four companies produce more than 400 per year (CC, MC, Malibu, and Skier's Choice (combined Moomba and Supra lines).

Also, I would say it was not the 20K price tag which was the undoing of American Skier. AS was the real deal. Those who will be honest will tell you they were a better slalom boat than CC during the 80s, and in fact, they were probably the best slalom boat period during that time period.

What happened was that in the late 80s, American Skier was sold to one of the big companies (I can't remember which one). They didn't do well and Ron Tanis bought the company back. He tried to make a go of it for several years, but AS just never returned to the prominence it enjoyed in the early 80s.

BTW - In the late 80s, Mastercraft was also sold to one of the big companies (I believe it was AMF). That too was a disaster. Like American Skier, MC was bought back by former executives of the company. MC faired better than AS in its comeback. BKH


Thanks Brian. I was not aware of that. As usual, you continue to amaze me with your knowledge of these things.

Phospher;
Wetamb is correct about Midwest American Skier. I completely forgot them. They'll be able to help you find a rudder for your Skier. Good call Wetamb!!!!



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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.



Eddie


Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: September-24-2007 at 8:52pm
BKH,

Your like a sudstitute teacher I had back in high school he knew 2000 useless facts for everyday of the year. Each day he would tell us something that happened on that in the past. Sometimes very meaningless other times they were major events. I am not trying to say yourt info useless any way. You just reminded me of him, you have alot of info to offer and to the right people that info is priceless, we are those people. Keep the info coming.

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http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN



Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-24-2007 at 9:01pm
No offense taken. I've said here many times, I have a mind for useless information. I had a calculus professor at UCLA who did the same thing. Best 5 minutes of the lecture each day. BKH

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Livin' the Dream



Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: September-25-2007 at 1:33am
Hey folks, I made a typo when I re-read my post. My American Skier is a 1980 model. NOT an '82. And while the subject of pricing came up, I have the original invoice for mine...

Base price was $9,217.

Trailer was $896

Boat options (10) totaled $1,016

Trailer options (3) totaled $201.50

Total delivered price: $11,331.50

WHAT a BARGAIN!


Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-25-2007 at 10:31am
Are you guys saying;
BKH = Cliff Clavin?
Lefty

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Play hard, life's not a trial run.
'85 BFN
'90 BFN



White Lake, Michigan



Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-25-2007 at 11:11am
You're killing me Lefty. BKH

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Livin' the Dream



Posted By: Barracuda
Date Posted: September-25-2007 at 1:58pm
Here's an ad for a local AM Skier in Mass.

19' AMERICAN SKIER, 1987
351 Ford (PCM), 265hp, 853 hrs, velvet drive IB. Great barefoot (wakeboard) boat. Runs gd. Incls trlr. End of summer special, $4999; (S. Easton) 508-238-1406

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Former:
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=759" rel="nofollow - '86 Nautique
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=507" rel="nofollow - '65 Barracuda


Posted By: Busted Knuckle
Date Posted: September-25-2007 at 11:49pm
thanks to a couple of you for letting me in on the secret here @ CCFan, with a little Amskier chat going on ...........Amskiers are great boats and it has been my passion to keep them on the water.



I am glad to see the pics of some the sickest 18's I've seen in while keep them clean.

I also want to note the info in this string is close to 90% accurate a fee holes here and there , but pretty close.
the first models were 18' skiers and 18' lux ( luxury edition)that model was in the line up from the beginning 1975 through 1984. (first model year was 1976) and boat #00000001 is here in the midwest. the other Miami model was the volante (closed bow) and Barefoot Skier

these were 20' and had the platform built in the hull and deck mold , a very cool design but a little too tough to build. they were around from 82 to 84 with a few built as 85s b4 they moved.

The first year Advance was 1985 and was built in the Ocoee Fl plant (Orlando)through about 90ish then the volante came back as ground up new open bow model, and the big 24' Eagle
Both of which Ron was invloved with the developement. The Legend came out to "replace " the Advance as the flagship tourny boat. then in 94 aided by Lucky Lowe came the TBX

the 18' and the Advance are still very well known for there great slalom wake , and TBX just took it even further. It really is that good.


Ron started as a promo owner late 70's early 80's his first Amskier was Brown and cream, looked yummy... he opened Midwest American Skier soon after. He moved on to Fl 87-88ish, he worked as VP of MFG and what ever else Ken wanted him to do. They took different paths in the early 90's and mid 90 Ron bought the company back, he built the boats in Winsboro LA for acouple of years then moved the plant to Kentwood He sold out to Ben in 02ish
Ron built the TBX, the Volante, and the Lazer (Advance). always all hand built, Amskier in the Ken or Ron years never OWNED a CHOPPER GUN!

I resurrected the dealership south of Chicago in 96. I also have been gainfully employed by a World Leader in Security Electronics and still am today, Amskiers are my passion not my bread and butter. Today we run the web site, handle parts, and do select mobile service.
We handle what ever parts are available for Amskiers as well as all other Tourny style Inboards. We just started the registry on our site, so far it seems to be going ok.


www.midwestamericanskier.com is for the boat owners, several pics of the older girls

and www.footngear.com is for footers

if you guys need any help, give me a shout

midskier@hotmail.com
219-365-1466


thanks again

Dan Tanis

note: One boat I'm sure many of you have seen here was the teal 66 Mustang, I helped the last owner with the restoration of that beauty
she is one bad @$$ CC with 340HP under the hood!

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Volante Barefoot Skier built by American Skier Boats -
www.footngear.com


Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 12:21am
Now that we know there is a web site for American Skier,please move this thread and all others about these fine boats there.
I own a real American Skier built by Correct Craft, not Bob or Joe....
I live about 50 miles from the old plant. they took it over when Cajun Boats went belly up.Quanity not quality keeps you in business a short while, same for the next boat builder that took over the site. American Skier left a lot angry people in there dust when they closed shop...
Have endured this subject long enough, lets talk about Correct Crafts and real American Skiers,Tiques,Nautiques, Mustangs and fish wuth teeth..................

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boat dr

/diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart
/diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier


Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 1:06am
Originally posted by boat dr boat dr wrote:

Now that we know there is a web site for American Skier,please move this thread and all others about these fine boats there.
I own a real American Skier built by Correct Craft, not Bob or Joe....
I live about 50 miles from the old plant. they took it over when Cajun Boats went belly up.Quanity not quality keeps you in business a short while, same for the next boat builder that took over the site. American Skier left a lot angry people in there dust when they closed shop...
Have endured this subject long enough, lets talk about Correct Crafts and real American Skiers,Tiques,Nautiques, Mustangs and fish wuth teeth..................



Out of respect for some of our forum members who contribute quite a bit to the site but happen to own boats other than a Correct Craft I too have tolerated this thread but with a much different perspective. Learned a lot about what I've always thought to be a pretty good Classic ski boat. Thanks to all.

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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails


Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 1:18am
With the last name Tanis, I'm sure Dan provided the most accurate picture.

I get your point Doc, it is a CC site. However, I think it provides for some interesting information, and we have several members here who don't own CCs and contribute a lot (backfoot and gottaski come to mind). As long as these guys are respectful, and as long as they are willing to take some good natured ribbing I don't see much harm.

So, I guess I'm in Alan's camp on this one. BKH

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Livin' the Dream



Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 2:23am
Thanks Dan...very interesting.

I gotta go with BKH and Alan. Of course my good friend and teacher, Backfoot, is an AMSkier owner and we do an awful lot of great footing behind that boat. anyhow..we have always tried to welcome all here.

john

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"Loud pipes save lives"



AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"...


Posted By: phospher
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 2:33am
thanks Dan for the post and information.

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Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 2:53am
I also go along with Alan,Brian and John . I have friends that have different boats that also have engine problems . I dirrect them to our sight because ther are a lot of fine people on this sight with a lot of valuable info about any kind of boat . The only problem that I see is that maybe it should have been in the off topic section .

But , Who really cares what section it is in . Because all of us are reading this posting anyway .

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Pat
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier
Rock River
Dixon,ILL.


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 11:06am
Doc, a lot of us are enthusiastic about all inboards. Old CCs just happen to be my favorite, but I like them all. It's hard to look at Backfoot's AS and not admire it as an outstanding example of a vintage ski boat. I've always liked them because I thought they looked like old CCs.

And it's pretty cool that someone like Busted Knuckle can join the discussion.


Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 11:21am
OK OK OK Wrong words , wrong timing wrong wrong wrong.....Live and let live.....Sorry to have pi**ed anyone off that was not my intention, just being over protective ......
Again my humble apologies for all offended...........billy

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boat dr

/diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart
/diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 11:29am
I'm not offended doc. I just get excited about any boat with a DD drive and the engine in the middle. I own two Malibus which I seldon talk about, but as of last Saturday own a '67 Mustang. I can't say I like anyone better than the other. I like them all, and would like another. I think it's a sickness I have.


Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by boat dr boat dr wrote:

OK OK OK Wrong words , wrong timing wrong wrong wrong.....Live and let live.....Sorry to have pi**ed anyone off that was not my intention, just being over protective ......
Again my humble apologies for all offended...........billy



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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails


Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 2:09pm
So, what your saying is I shouldn't bring up the lower unit problem I'm having with my 90hp Johnson outboard on my 16' Larson Flyer?
OK, I won't
I too, learned alot about the differences in the CC American Skiers and the others, and learning is good.
Thanks,
Lefty

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Play hard, life's not a trial run.
'85 BFN
'90 BFN



White Lake, Michigan



Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 4:43pm
Doc, no blood, no foul.

That's one of the really cool things about this forum. Everybody appreciates classic boats no matter who makes 'em. I find it so nice that there aren't a bunch of primadonas here like you find on other sites. Their boat is the ONLY one that counts and they don't want to associate with or admit that there are others out there that can compare.

I have learned a ton from everybody here and like to think that I've been able to help some out too. I have attended engine rebuilding sessions with members here, enjoyed a CC owners reunion with members here and met new friends and ski partners through members here. The fact that I don't own a CC didn't prevent me from contributing and sharing in these experiences and I also know that they would not have been possible without experiencing this website. So, THANK YOU ALL for your putting up with us non-CC guys. I certainly appreciate it as I'm sure all the other non-CC guys do.

Doc, I have big shoulders so I don't have a problem with you being over-protective. I understand completely. I did the same thing with my daughters while they were growing up and they are much better off because of it. Their boyfriends are much better off because of it too!!! LOL!!!





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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.



Eddie


Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: September-26-2007 at 7:50pm
I will take blame for starting a post in the wrong section... My fault, was just looking for an answer to a question I had. As parr for this site I got more then I asked for, and I love it.

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http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN



Posted By: Messer
Date Posted: January-05-2008 at 9:06pm
I too enjoyed the thread. While I have an AM, I have also owned three CC's and a MC.




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Johnnie
1987 Ski Nautique
1981 Fish Nautique
1980 Fish Nautique
1979 Fish Nautique
1986 Master Craft
1984 American Skier



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