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MrMcD ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3778 |
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You are making progress, going to be a nice boat.
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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https://youtu.be/FBf6PSg9ZEA?si=_VR660-bkcecGFP_
It is hard to see because it was filmed looking at the tablet screen, for sure the timing light blinks every time 1 fires and the 6 is on point @ 600 +/- https://youtu.be/aS_S5w_59dE?si=Eix22UzxQXcX3vky |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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![]() ![]() If that's the timing pointer and the orange paint which became visible while cleaning it up and is on 6, i got that at 600 rpm, it was off, retarded. If there was a rear sight that would be great but i think it's there. Fresh gas i believe is what made the difference. The multimeter is working but also jumping up/down but i can adjustvthe idle screw so it bounces 590-620 for timing and 630-660 on idle. Cause ? The idle air screws are 2 turns but who knows ! No big change observed The vacuum gauge is hooked to the port on the spacer and there is new rubber caps on the carb. The vac swings up/down in the late ign timing area but like mentioned i believe it's at 6 @600 When i removed the vac hose from the port 1/2 ounce of gas came out, it didn't do that on the 79, cause ?. There are 2 videos to upload and come back to edit this post with some notes/observations A while back stated goals were to send engine and trans off to appropriate shop for rebuild/freshen up but let's not get crazy $$$$. I think it's a good engine & trans package to do exactly that, (have to find shop for both in NE Ohio) It's going to sit so winterize and cyl oil/fog has to be on point even tho next fall it can be run and repeated or turned over and fog repeated. Will follow directions on fogging oil can and open to other methods to help ensure it stays a good engine. Gallon and a half of non meth got a whole can of b12 and 3 ounces of stabil dumped in. Drain carb line and pump or ???? Drain block, exhaust, dump hoses, impellor already out, fill with 50/50 fog cap exhaust outlets. How about the mufflers, they are plastic, pretty impressed how much quieter than no mufflers on 79. Thank you |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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The 3m eraser wheel was in the top 10 things i ever spent money on, 53 bucks, more than 1/2 of it left. Worked as advertised. Thanks for reccomending it.
Before i bought tho i tried to whack it with some 1000 grit on the grinder as seen port side right below the teak foot step. Looks like the gel will come back. These spider cracks( just on the rear deck and rear sides under the decals) are the only damage the boat has, (don't know if that is an 01 flaw or what) very minor dock rash will buff out, even the bottom is in great shape. Saving all the blue scheme pictures for later ! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() upload |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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Kristof ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-08-2007 Location: Bree, Belgium Status: Offline Points: 3411 |
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Indeed. Works like a charm. (Over here we call them 'caramel discs'). |
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Jonny Quest ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-20-2013 Location: Utah--via Texas Status: Offline Points: 3030 |
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3M™ Stripe Off WheelAmazing results
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2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21210 |
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Eraser wheel
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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Level of difficulty 2 of 10, no fumes no burning skin. Works almost right away.
It didn't do much with the decals and did nothing to the pinstripes. I used more than needed to keep it wet but still used less than 1/2 a 2 qt bucket. Anybody have a product that removes pinstripes letters and decals i would appreciate it. They fell off the snob, on the 01, they are like iron. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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Flat tire on 40 E leaving lake havasu tri axel 30 foot scarab. It took hours and they clipped me.
It was in good shape but the heat and dry out there really takes it's toll. Is what really happened. The take care of the trailer lesson i learned 40 years ago so 2010 in havasu was unexpected. Here in my part of florida we have family owned business ferguson's, .there motto is if we don't have it we're both in trouble. Counting the 2 ski boats in the yard now makes 7 trailers worth of parts from them over the last 10 years. Great guys, no pc in there i'll tell ya, like a corner bar in the 80's Walk in buy some hubs some extra parts tell some jokes and the havasu flat tire memory get's embellished via their motto and my b.s.. " if you don't maintain your trailer with parts from fergusons, it's your fault when you have to call highway tire tow and robbery" Hello highway tire tow and robbery how can we help you? My trailer is busted on the highway 500 miles from home, they told me i needed a part but i didn't get it. No problem sir how much was the part or service you chose not to do? 142 bucks. Ok just add a zero to that 142, multiply by 3 and we'll be there in about 6 hours. Is how i like to tell how it happened Fixed into the right thread. Because the windshields are 3 things : 1. no longer available 2. absolutely must haves 3. expensive. I think it's a good idea to remove and affix them to the boat(s) floor or some ply for safe keeping, they haven't broke yet but why push it. |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11247 |
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Well no you haven't, so I guess it's time to hear about highway tow and robbery ![]() And here's a link to one place where you can get the plastic hinge and someplace else referenced in the link below to an old thread here on CCF |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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I flushed out the exhaust and with some plumbing caps/couplers installed and sealed off the muffler for winter storage and dipping the boat in to get it on the trailer straight which it does not do, i had to ratchet strap it into position while the boat was just floating.
yay! Something else needs fixed! Also peeled off the decals and rubber non slip with plastic razor blades ( no damage) Wow it hasn't been cleaned yet but what an improvement. Since i'm ski nautiques biggest fan now when i transport it i can tell people its a mastercraft or somethng is why it's all waterlogged and had to get cut open In the process of that one of the plastic hinges broke (screwdriver points to hinge) and need a replacement or do i just pick up stainless ? No gas shocky things will be going back in the boat at all ever, period. New hubs tires and spares, extra hub parts etc etc too. All cleaned repacked etc etc across both trailers, fingers crossed i won't have to call highway tire tow and robbery. Did i mention highway tire tow and robbery already, maybe i should read my own thread. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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Yep, pretty close to those thickness.
couple pictures of the rear were the gas tank can be seen, in the outlined area, the stringers have a flange that crosses all the way from the inboard stringer to the hull side. From the inside it looks like the hull would have a 1/2 inch step but it doesn't. Another outlined picture of the out board stringer up fron has an elevation change. That's were they put the floor pan. My idea is to pull a mold of the stringers and also make a floor pan template/mold. Think i got dealing with the hard parts of the stringers front and rear, the tough to get at or tough to get out sections so a diy'r could fix his waterlogged maloon special by keeping short sections of existing stringers intact (but clean out the wet foam) and cut in the 50% of stringers section that is easy to get to and easy to get out then tab in a floor pan to finish it off. Boom, no foam filled rebuild it original waterlogged mess like the factory does. Same for the 84 hull, well maybe not theres not a problem but theres a problem. I'll start a seperate thread. Meantime what your looking at is, aaggh who am i kidding who knows what it is, foam filled block with a pvc pipe that starts up front by the bow eye behind a dam and dump into the airbox by the front of the stringers. It dumps all that water into the voids around the drivers seat and no doubt is what filled up the empty cavity under the driver se Anyway, that chunk of foam up there under the bowrider i'd bet weighs 200 pounds. It's gonna have to wait, crawling up there isn't topping the list and really the deck should come off. I was in there pulling off 20 pounds of sound deadoning material from the hull sides, so i'll repeat it's a convertible, it's a ski boat, the whole point is to feel hear and smell everything that's going on. you sit next to v8 designed in the sixties. If you want nvh go buy a ***************ing bentley. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() gif upload |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21210 |
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All these pics are really neat to see, thanks for sharing. Looks like 3/16” ish on the mains and 3/32 - 1/8” on the floor and secondaries?
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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I wont get a picture of the inside of the engine stringers until they are opened up, that could be next week or in 1 1/2 years as there is a bigger project gearing up and will kick off at the last second. Meanwhile here some thickness pictures and i'll fill in the blanks and show an idea later when i got some time
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21210 |
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I’ve seen the brochure, just trying to see what it looked like in real life… if you get a chance to take some pics, would be interesting to see
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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TRBenj,
I'll cut and get a thickness and photograph the locations. Give me a couple days. When they laid up the stringers or afterwards a piece of 1/4 inch aluminum plate got boded to the inside of the stringers were the engine goes, maybe in the back too were the angle is lagged to the stringers for the rear hatch and tank support. I'm moving not sure when so focus is on prep for travel and winterize, hence cut it open get the water out and service the bearings. From the brochure ![]() ![]() |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21210 |
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Not looking for layer count, just thickness… if that’s easier to grab. Not following your comment on the “modified with aluminum”… perhaps a better description or pics would shed some light on how the boat was built? |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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Pitots are safe, made it back friday at 1300 hrs. We were extremely lucky.
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11247 |
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I see the pitots escaped to Ohio with you.
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11247 |
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I think Dan is getting wayoutofthere and heading north to Ohio right about now to avoid a meeting with Milton
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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TRBenj,
the only layer count +/- i can give at this point would be the hollowed out portion of the outer stringers and tie-ins, the wide parts and that would be (edit, 2-3 layers) of biax material, its not very strong because of the span, and not very consistent in that area. The narrow portions forward and rear sections of the outboard stringers are strong, so are the engine stringers, i'll have a thickness once they are cut. My guess is a male mold too but there is no gel inside or outside. All the stringers ars laid up in a biax material. In fact so is the hull and deck. Engine stringers are modified with 1/4 inch aluminum and the engine cradle is lagged into the sides and down thru the top. Yep lagged, no thru bolts. Even lags on the transom for hardware that is covered by foam/floor. Yes, the spray relief pockets and hullside reliefs are all visible and thus far the layup looks good. Only problem is it looks like the stringers have a flange on the hull so it's a lap joint instead of a "L" or 90 degree bonded to the hull. That means foam could have squeezed in there like it did between the floor and top of the stringers. Have a better picture when all the foam is out and it'll photograph better too. Gotta ski, Yours might havexbeen the thread i was looking for about powerwashing the foam out, that was a great idea. Right now i bought a 5 pack of sawzall blades, the trailer windshield etc should get mu money back but i can't relax at night unless i'm q tippin fiberglass dust outta my ears so we'll try and make something from this hull. Another intact 01 or pre 01 boat is the ticket to completing the snob, no rush, 1 will pop up and be the hardware, interior and engine donor, the hull will be a bar and grill |
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GottaSki ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: April-21-2005 Location: NE CT Status: Offline Points: 3372 |
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Great work man
WIsh i took the time to review this in detail sooner. on the 96, have you considered blowing the foam out of the main stringers and leaving their structure mostly intact, aside from a few access holes? I did not have foam in my rcb's stringers, they were hollow, but foam disintegrates with a stout power washer and turbo tip
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"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing."
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21210 |
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Not much to add, but I do sympathize with your project. I can’t say that I’m surprised that the foam is wet, it seems inevitable- closed cell or not.
I find these pics of the composite structure fascinating, big thanks for sharing. I don’t recall anyone digging in quite so deep and thoroughly before (and documenting it). I’m sure I’ll think of more, but a few questions while you’re in there poking around: How thick is the layup of the ICS? Is it different on the mains vs secondary structures? I assume there are backing plates on the inside of the main stringers for the engine cradle to bolt to? Whats the inside of the stringer system faces look like now that you’ve cut some of the tops off? Gel covered? I would have guessed they were laid up on a male mold. Now that the foam is out, I assume the spray relief pockets are visible on the inside? I can’t really make them out in the pics. |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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Keno, be sure to pass along my thanks to that guy.
And to finish that pm, your obviously 1 of those guys, Thanks |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11247 |
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Those Airguide speedo pitots haven't been produced for quite a while now, but if you PM your address to the guy that your carburetor was donated to, he'll send you a couple of genuine replacements. (used but in good shape)
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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Somebody asked about the 84 2001 battery/cooler hatches, said i'd measure it tuesday, here ya go and if anyone can point me to the source for this speedo part off the 96 snob i'd appreciate it.
The wood panels measure, 15 7/8 inches X 11 inches, they are 3/4 plywood, the trim lip is 1/4 inch and rhe radius is 3 1/4 inches ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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wayoutthere ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2020 Location: Headquarters Status: Offline Points: 516 |
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