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    Posted: April-10-2009 at 12:31am
Thought this might interest some folks here.

Here's the old one. As you can see no visibility.


Started out by laying some taped together poster board to the inside of the old windshield. You want to pull it tight to the edges, making sure not to follow the vertical curve. You can't duplicate the compound curve without a vacuum mold.


Try to keep the middle from dipping down into the curve.




After I got it set, I took a sharp razor blade and followed the outline of the old windshield to cut the poster board.




Now for a dry fit, already looks better




Now I took my poster board pattern, flattened, and traced it onto my sheet of Lexan. Be sure and keep the protective film on there until your done.


Went to a local plastic supplier and got half a 4x8 sheet of 3/16 inch Lexan XL. I think it's 3/16, whatever my old one measured out at. The XL has a UV protective guarantied for 10 years.

Cut her out with a jig saw and regular wood blade. I taped the bottom of the jig saw plate with masking tape to be extra careful not to scratch the Lexan.


Here's the part I don't have pics on. There are rivets holding in the old glass, I took a drill bit and just drilled them out. So when you go to put the new glass in, you'll need to rivet again.

With the help of my wife, you need two people, I fit the frame to the new sheet of Lexan. Started in the middle, she held one end while I bent the Lexan into the curve of the other. Then swapped sides. It's a pretty tough job because it keeps wanting to straighten out.

Once you get it where you want it, drill some holes where your old rivets where. I started in the middle and worked my way to the bottom edges, one at a time using a rubber mallet to make sure the Lexan was all the way in the frame. Used some aluminum rivets I had lying around for gutters.

It gets easier once you have the rivets holding it all together. There are two large holes where the frame screws into the hardware on the boat you need to drill as well.

Once you got everything secure, bring your new windshield out to the boat. I attached the ends to the mounting hardware, keeping everything a bit loose. You then need to press the bottom of the windshield down to the bow, it helps to have a friend, so that you can mark where to drill your holes for the eye screw bolt things, whatever they are called. My boat has 4. I moved the outer two further inwards because it appeared that the windshield would end up being wavy where the original two were. You just have to look at it and decide. Attached the middle two then press down on the edges and eyeball the new glass until it curves smoothly.



Sorry I didn’t take pics at this point, guess I was too excited about getting it done.

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Loosen everything and install, tighten as you go.

Remove the protective film and see again.







So, I used Lexan (polycarbonate) because you can cold form it, meaning you can bend it all day without heating and it won’t break. You can also cut and drill with whatever you have. Be sure if you go with it, get the XL or something that has UV protection or it will yellow.

And here is the biggest downside, it scratches very easily. You can scratch it with your fingernail. You want to clean it with lots of water and a non harsh soap. Never use Windex. Also they say clean in straight lines, not swirls, that way if it scratches it won’t glare as bad in the sun. And keep the protective film on there until your done.

We’ll see how it holds up. The 2x8 sheet cost $120 which is a steal compared to the $500 a local fabricator wanted to make me one.

This site has some good info that helped me.
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Hope this helps anyone looking to take on this project.
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Wow Turned out great.If you wouldn't have said anything ,I'd have thought you bought it.
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Wow. That is impressive. Looks fantastic.
How long do you figure it took you?

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Thanks Gary.

Mike, it really didn't take long at all. I did it over the course of a few days so hard to say. Probably in the range of 4-6 hours, taking my time.

This and the polish have made such a dramatic difference in the look of the boat. And it took mostly elbow grease.

Here's a before and after.
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Sweet Windshield! I'm wondering if you could put some sort of plastic film over it, almost like a tint, but not tinted. To keep it from scratching so easily.

Looks Awesome though. Fantastic job!

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Gret job on the windshield. the boat overall is really coming along, lots of hard work but it shows.
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You're doing great. Looks fantastic!


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That's amazing Vondy. Your boat is looking great.

Great tech post. We ought to have a section for stuff like this so it's easier to find.
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Looks great David,
Are you bringing your boat to the SW reunion?
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Beautiful after shot , David.
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Great job on the windshield & boat. It is amazing the shine that hides under the ugly finish when you start one of these.
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Wow looks great. Looking forward to hear how it holds up.
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Great work on the windshield. The boat really looks nice. I know that others have also said how great it looks, but it needs to be said again.
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AWESOME!!!!! I will be making one in the near future!!
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I had heard of using Lexan to make a windshield just last week. I wondered how it would look without the slight arc from top to bottom, that the originals had... now I know... GREAT!!


I think the one I heard of was made from 1/8" thick. I questioned how strong that would be in the long run, plus if it would fit the top trim?   Did the 3/16" bend ok?


I think there will be one in my future for my Higgins!! THANKS for posting pics!!

Ohhh, gotta ask, whats the beer of choice in the pics?
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Thanks again everyone. I was also a little concerned with how it would look without the compound curve. Doesn't bother me a bit.

It was a little tough to bend the 3/16", 1/8" would probably be much easier. I also wasn't sure how 1/8 would fit in the frame so I stuck with the 3/16". I did read somewhere that someone made theirs out of 1/8", not CC.

The beer in the pic is Shiner Bock from Shiner Texas. Sitting in a Czech Stop beer koozie. Czech Stop is a great little gas station in the town of West Texas south of Dallas before Waco. They have great kolaches, sausage, etc. It's pretty well known around here, people make it a point to stop in when they are passing through.
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Wow, Vondy...I have windshield envy! You did a wonderful job!
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Nice Job!


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Nice!!!
I´m going to source here if I can find lexan or sthing like it. I need to redo the driver side glass .... It has poly that is crack. Original glass was broken by PO and replace it with the poly....
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Update on the windshield...

Word of caution. Don't us Lexan XL. Use the regular XL without the UV coating.

Apparently the UV coating can not deal with the pressure the curve puts on it. Mine started to "craze" or "crackle" in the bends. If you only have minimal bends it probably doesn't matter.

The company I bought mine from replaced it since they are the ones that told me this was the sheet I needed.

Luckily the Lexan flattens back out and I used it as a template to trace the new one, drill holes and all.

They say as long as you cover the boat and don't leave the windshield in the sun, the regular Lexan should last 10+ years before yellowing.

Should have the new, new one on tonight or tomorrow.

They also gave me a polishing type product that is used to build up a layer that will reduce scratching, smudges, and fog.

I'll let y'all know how that turns out.
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Hey vondy,
    How is the new, new windshield holding up? Hopefully its going good and you've been out on the lake!
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Originally posted by storm34 storm34 wrote:

Hey vondy,
    How is the new, new windshield holding up? Hopefully its going good and you've been out on the lake!


Actually the windshield is not holding up to well at all. Once again it's getting the "stress" cracks in the bends. Not sure if the material is bad, or if it just can't handle the stress. It might be a combination of the stress and heat from the boat sitting covered in the sun.

I have to say I'm surprised, Lexan is supposed to be so unbreakable but apparently it is crackable.

I think I'm going to call the plastic company today and see if they will give me a sheet of Plexi. I would have to form it with heat, but I can continue to use my Lexan one while I slowly work on the plexi. That is as long as they keep replacing for free, since they are the ones recommending the material.

The good thing is, even with the cracks in the corners, the front is still nice and clear, way better than the original.

Yes we have been on the lake twice this year. Bringing the boat up to my brothers in Hot Springs Arkansas at the end of the month for two weeks. Can't wait. Those lakes are so much nicer and calmer than our Texas ones. The Mustang takes a beating around here.
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I'm glad I asked, I was going to try and finish one before GL but I might just have to suck it up and use my original!

Now we can watch and see how you make the new, new, plexi windshield!
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Yeah it's kind of disappointing. It really was an easy process and I was hoping for the best. Oh well, always something eh.

The trailer no longer sways, at least it hasn't yet, knock on wood. You can see what I did in the pic above after it was polished. Mounted my winch just below the stop with Ubolts. Went from 60lbs on the tongue to more like 160lbs. Might not be enough but definitely more stable.
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Originally posted by vondy vondy wrote:



The beer in the pic is Shiner Bock from Shiner Texas. Sitting in a Czech Stop beer koozie. Czech Stop is a great little gas station in the town of West Texas south of Dallas before Waco. They have great kolaches, sausage, etc. It's pretty well known around here, people make it a point to stop in when they are passing through.


It's been ages since I've been to the Czech stop...I used to live around Dallas, and had a girlfriend in Austin. It's been ages since I had a Shiner too...
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David,
My son-in-law and I each need new windshields for our projects. We're not sure what to do? Is your's getting any worse?
   
You ever talk to Lexan to try and figure out why the stress cracks? I cant believe how nice the windshield turned out. I thought somewhere I saw a "bend-ratio : to Lexan thickness". Cant imagine that is the problem?


Anyway, just wondering about an update? Thanks!




   
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The Lexan never worked out. The company that sold it to me heat formed an acrylic windshield for me for a few bucks extra. Although it did not turn out as well as I would like, it looks just fine. That really wasn't their expertise. Still was around $300 less than one place quoted for doing it.

I'm disappointing in the Lexan. It was easy, cheap and looked great. According to the shop, Lexan won't bend that much without forming stress cracks. At least that's what they say. I'm not to sure about them now, they knew exactly what I was doing and recommended it for the project, twice.

Anyway, I'm glad I have acrylic now because I don't have to worry about it scratching like the Lexan.
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Ive seen a couple of articles (including the one you linked to) on doing the windshield from Lexan. Have to wonder if they have the same "long term" results?    Bummer....


What did the company use for a buck to heat form your windshield? Any idea what temp is required?
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Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

What did the company use for a buck to heat form your windshield? Any idea what temp is required?


I feel there's going to be a project going to make the buck!!! Over radius the buck slightly to allow for some spring back.

For large curve bending, I've seen quartz IR heaters used by the plastics fabricators. Experiment on scrap and time the heat up.


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