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tullfooter
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Posted: September-03-2009 at 11:16am |
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I'm looking a possibly buying one or two used PWC's. I know it's hard to get opinions on this site , but I'm hoping to get some reviews about Sea Doos, WaveRunners, and Jet Skis. I'm looking at skis ranging from '95 Sea Doo XP's to 2003 Waverunners.
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behindpropeller
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form&function
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four stroke is the only way to go.Something like a old ultra 150 or whatever they call the new ones.The two strokes are hard on gas and break more.
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tullfooter
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It's either PWC's or a couple of new tubes to rip up the lake. |
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Hollywood
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I'm feeling ill...
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behindpropeller
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I just put a small BB gun in the boat to shoot tubes sitting at docks with nobody around |
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skutsch
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Tullfooter;
Wow, forget the PWC buy an Arctic Cat M-7 with as short as track as you can find. Its a dual season vehicle. You can run up to the UP or Cadillac in the winter and in the summer you will be the talk of the lake, as you do some skippin. Plus its a little more technical, no stoppin to chat when your on the water. Check it out: Water Skipping Make sure you watch the second scene! P.S. I have a couple of buddies with PWC and unless you are going to go "old school" and get a Stand up (Then look for a Kawasaki), the consensus with them is the Yamaha's are ROCK Solid! |
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ryanowen
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Steve, We've had mid-90s Sea Doos and Waverunners at our cabin. In my experience, the Yamaha's were much more reliable, at least with the older models. Our Sea Doos were constantly having problems. I can't comment on the new stuff. We don't have any PWCs anymore and no plans to get them either. The only one I'd consider buying at this point would be a SuperJet to take out in Lake Huron. There are so many inexperienced boaters riding around on those things that they make me nervous every time I see them. I don't want to get off topic and rant on PWCs... it's truly not the vehicle itself causing my paranoia. Ryan |
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92ccc
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We have two Sea Doo RXP'S,four stroke with super chargers,great on fuel and very dependable.I think the fit and finish on Sea Doo products is second to none,defenitely would buy again.We have also owned older Sea Doo's and Yamaha two stroke,still would take the Sea Doo.
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mr_beat
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80's Standups!! I have a JS550 and they're a blast. Never ride a couch!
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SNobsessed
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Just rent one a few times each summer to get it out of your system. I've ridden them & got bored after about 10 minutes of doing donuts.
Considering depreciation & maintenance, you are better off renting. |
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SN206
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...it's like a bad virus.
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RainDog
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While I have no use for it; wives, kids and guests really enjoy our 1998 Sea Doo Limited. 900cc 2 stroke twin. Good for 63 mph. Sucks major gas, but so far only requires routine maintenance.
As a kid, we had the old school Kawasaki stand ups. Would really like to get a pair of those. At least it takes a little skill to run one. |
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05 210
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Stand-up's ( the only REAL jet ski ) = Kawasaki
Sit down's....get a Yamaha, or perhaps a well maintained 2003 or later Sea-Doo. Whatever you do, don't, I repeat, do not buy a pre 2000 Sea-doo. Get a 4 stroke if you can. Those things depreciate worse than anything you will ever own, so make sure you get a good deal. You should be able to buy 2 machines 3-4 years old w/ low hrs in a-1 condition with a trailer for about the same price as 1 brand new one. Like SNobsessed stated,they are fun,but the newness wears off quickly. We have two and I wouldn't care if they both sank. Mike |
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05 210
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BTW, nice watercross footage Skutsch
Mike |
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dwcar
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I have two 2002 see doos. they are two stroke. I have had a few minor problems but nothing major. We enjoy them. You can go places on them that you wouldnt want to take the Nautique.
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skutsch
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Mike (05 210) are you a sledder too? The kids got a 79 John Deere Spitfire for Christmas last year, we rebuilt the engine this summer and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Also did some mods on my XF-7 as the ski (H2O) season winds down, especially with the ridiculously cold weather here, I am starting to think more and more about sledding.
I always thought a sled on the water would be a lot more fun then a PWC, at least in the long run. Much more challenging! Haven't grown big enough "stones" yet to try and pull that one off in front of the wife |
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05 210
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Used to be a big snowmobiler.Can't seem to find the time lately. I still have an 04 F5 to terrorize the neighborhood on, but haven't had a big trail sled since 03. I used to ride in Canada and The County alot when I was working on sleds for a living. There are a few guys on this site who ride. I still love it,it's just not a high priority. My son has a sno scoot and we ride locally.My wife and I have talked about getting back into it,but it involves buying 2-3 more machines and a bigger trailer. It takes alot of cash to go snowmobiling with the whole family. Gear,helmets,gas etc, you know the drill....... Once it's in your blood though, it never goes away.As long as I live in an area where there is a chance for snow, I'll at least have 1 sled kicking around to ride when it does. Sorry 'bout the thread-jack Tull. Mike |
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05 210
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Sexxxxxyyyyy ! Mike |
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JoeinNY
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Depends on how old your going in my opinion, yamahas are super reliable but anything older than a 97 is too slow. The 1998 gp 1200 we have around is big, fast, and rides well and most likely forever but as a two stroke it is loud, smelly, and with three carbs can suck 13 gpm at wot.. plenty of fun in short bursts. Seadoos were plenty fast after 94 as long as they were dual carb or better, and gas usage could be worse. I think an 800 cc 96 to 99 seadoo is a great power to gas mileage machine on a budget, but I also know first hand they are not perfectly reliable, but when I get 12 years out of the first engine I am not against throwing a few bucks into a rebuild.
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jbear
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Huh? I gotta guess that you are kidding. As far as to the idea of getting a pwc...I like you to much tull to let you know how I feel about that. But don't worry...these strange urges will soon pass. john |
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62 wood
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Steve, Did it once..... Wayyyyyy back on my 95 Yami 600...(my "buds" were calling me names...LOL) I just made it, belt got wet and was slipping...aint worth the chance on my '02 Viper! I have friends that still do it all the time tho... |
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storm34
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I spent many saturdays in my buddies prostar with a few cold ones chasing jet skis out of our slalom course. Sorry, but I hate the damn things. Wouldn't mind em on a big open lake but on our little pond/lake its pretty useless.
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Thats funny, I thought I was logged on to CorrectCraftFan.com. But there seems to be this mindless banter about Water Mosquito's.Whats best , whats fastest,. Oh well I know tommorrow this stuff will be gone and we will be talking about Correct Crafts, enough already guys about the ski's OK.............
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SN206
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Heard!
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uk1979
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Have a 98 GP 1200 from new apart from servicing had 2 new batteries but are hard on gas.
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WakeSlayer
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Wow. There are seemingly an awful lot of closeted PWC owners on the inboard boat site. I guess admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery....
Our lake is small enough you cannot legally use one on it. Whew! |
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C-Bass
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13 gallons per minute!!! That's like Top Fuel Dragster flow right there. That thing must fly! Aside from all the mindless bashing of PWC's, I'll offer some input. I've only rode 2 different PWC's, both Sea Doo's. One was around a 93 2 stroke, and the other was a 2006 4 stroke. Aside from the 4 stroke being significantly quieter, the newer hull rides so much smoother and keeps the keel planted well in the water so your not constantly sucking air thru the impeller. However, the newer ones just feel so much larger, and lose some of the fun factor of PWC. I don't know why anyone would want a larger (3 seater+) PWC, because to me that just defeats the purpose. Despite what people say about PWC's, there is fun to be had on them. Just like so many other things, it's the person behind the tool, not the tool itself...(insert gun control debate ). I get eye rolls when people find out I ride a "Crotch Rocket". They instantly figure I'm one of the D-bags that ride wheelies down the interstate shirtless, helmetless, cutting people off, making tons of noise. But 95% of the riding I do now is on a race track. I can't help it the vast majority of the people that use those machines are idiots, but that's not going to deter me away from having my kind of fun on it.... ...Rant over |
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RainDog
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I intensely dislike two strokes for anything bigger than a chain saw. However, I don't think it would be a complete summer if I didn't get a good whiff of that intoxicating blend of burnt oil, lake water and early morning dew. Takes me back all the way to my Grandpa's fishing boat and all of our clapped out steel pontoon boats with woven lawn chairs on them. Sorry, waaaaay OT. |
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Terp
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Lucky you! |
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