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Swatkinz
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Posted: February-22-2011 at 6:28pm |
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my primary work vehicle is a 2002 Ford Explorer with the V8. Bought for my wife brand new. Now has 145K miles on it.
Clicking in the dash when the climate control is turned to anything other than cold. I believe it's something called a heat/ac blend door. This is apparently an expensive repair for a dealer to handle b/c it involves disassembling much of the dash/instrument console etc just to access the faulty part. There are options out there that involve cutting into the system down near the floorboard in an area that cannot be seen (unless you're looking for it) but this pretty much requires a do it yourself approach. Anyone ever have this problem and what did you do? I initially thought I'd just live with the nuisance noise, but now I'm second guessing. Very annoying. I'd like to get at least 200K out of this vehicle. I don't want to sink several hundred dollars on this kind of repair at this point. |
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JoeinNY
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Sounds like you have the right diagnosis to me..and the right options. I wouldnt be afraid to cut in there to save some dissassembly but either way it is an upside down standing on your head type of job. But I say go for it.. a couple hundred thousand shouldnt be an issue unless you plan to pay for all your small maintance issues between here and there. The fun with an older car is taking it apart without the worry of destroying a 30k piece of equipment.
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I replaced my blend door on my 83 MC SS about 3 years ago. Yes it's different, but still alot of work. I've seen one of the garages have an Avalanche torn completely apart, looked like a chop shop just to change the Heater core!!
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I would check the blend door actuator first. remove the act. and turn door by hand. If movement is smooth, the actuator is bad. Open act... the gear in side is plastic. It is designed to fail before the door. If you do in fact need to replace act, you will need to "reprogram" the new act. to learn new limits.
2003 may be the same as 2002 http://redhouseon7th.com/redhouse/howto/2003FordExplorerBlendDoor/ hope this helps, Shawn |
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Not a ford but we did the heater core and evaporater coil on our 2000 dodge dakota 170,000 miles right before green lake last summer, The shop wanted almost a grand. Parts were around $200. At least 12 hours labor and a scary amount of dissasembly, I am guessing you may be close to needing either a heater core and evap coil, if you do take it apart I would suggest doing all three repairs and be done.
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Well, My parents recently bought an 02 4.6 v8 explorer with 100k on it. XLT, and it has manual HVAC and not climate control like the one you have , well it sounds like it has Climate Control.
They have not had any issues, and bought it from a friend that bought it new. Now, I have not seen that issue in explorers myself, but having fixed the blend doors on the parents other SUV which is a 99 grand cherokee ltd with the dual zone HVAC, it is a bit of work, mostly pidly screws and dash removal. If it's anything like the blend door fix for a jeep grand (99-04) it is not tough, but takes a good few hours. The first time the jeeps blend door went under warranty, the labor is what made it costly. It was like 8 hours at 70 dollars or so shop rate. That even included discharging the refrigerant, and pulling everything on the dash. the bill would have been somewhere north of 1400 dollars. When I fixed it, I bought an ebay fix and that solved it for a lot less work and only a hundred dollars or so. The DIY type fixes like this work great, actually better than factory usually because the factory needs to make parts for pennies, not dollars. At least you have heat, as when it went (both times the blend doors failed and once again when the blend door actuator went out) on the grand cherokee, they had cold air pouring in and no way to stay warm. Of course all 3 times this happened in the winter. |
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I just did a trailblazer, it was clicking, this was a big mother you know whater, pulled complete dash to change the door motor because one of the plastic gears had a tooth broken inside the motor gearbox, I would imagine Dorf and Chubby use the same supplier for the "encoder motors" ended up about a 9 hour job.
at times usually there are 3 or so motors in there for all of the functions, if you can isolate which one is giving you grief you may be able to get at it without much dis-assembly |
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btw, good luck
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Mine doesn't have climate control. confusing the way I posted it originally. Has the explorer your parents purchased had transmission problems yet? |
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Ah, so no climate control, but rather the manual knobs. They all still have blend doors and some sort of an actuator. On the jeeps with the dual zone, the actuators are electric and had too high of torque. Otherwise they have to use some sort of method to move the blend doors.
Nope, no tranny problems, and I doubt they will. That's a good tranny in those. |
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fwiw, also recently did a 4.0, 99, exploder trans...now i know why they call them exploders....I actually had to get a good used trans because this one was unrebuildable 55r5e, I believe
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I have a 99.... so far so good, but I'm just waiting for it to go as hard as I abuse the thing.
Steve - check out www.explorerforum.com There are many guys on there that are very knowledgable about those trucks. You should be able to fins info on DIY repair there because this is a common problem. |
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Really!, mine went out at 88k miles. I was underthe impression that this was fairly known, common problem with that tranny. Bus me that there's no way to check the trans fluid. No dipstick |
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Steve
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