86' Fish Nautique (gettin' put to work) |
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MOBCHARTERS ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: December-30-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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Well, it's official, as of 1-4-2014 I became the proud owner of this 1986 23' Fish Nautique. We're in the process of getting her back on her feet. She's been out of the water for about a year. The boat is powered by a 1980's? Crusader 350 5.7 V8. Our plains are to do as minimal as possible to make it safe to run for about 2 years. After that time I'll do a boat and motor overhaul if needed (hopefully not before). I run a small fish/dive charter op and also fish commercially. We out grew our last boat and felt that this one better suited our needs. I've got a good solid 2-3 months to whip this boat into shape before my busiest time of year. I'll post pics and updates as we go along, and look forward to any helpful advise. I don't have any pics from the outside yet but I'll get em' up on here.
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dwcar ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February-11-2007 Location: Houston Texas Status: Offline Points: 1103 |
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Welcome to the site Rick and congrats on your new boat!
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skutsch ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-19-2008 Location: Racine, WI Status: Offline Points: 2874 |
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It appears to be in pretty good shape. Any soft spots in the floor (stringers)? Is the engine running? Is this the one that was on ebay? I am guessing it won't take too much effort to make her a good solid runner for a couple of years. Good Luck!
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bhectus ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July-04-2010 Location: Gator Country! Status: Offline Points: 1809 |
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Don't think so Steve, that one was being sold in MD if I remember correctly and this one has FL regs on it. |
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'02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold
'87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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The one on eBay went for 5200 which was not too bad a price.You would need a trailer and possible motor though. Maybe it will turn up here too.
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Smithfamily ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-26-2007 Location: Orlando, Fl Status: Offline Points: 1602 |
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Welcome aboard Rick, and good luck with the new adventure. Where are you located?
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MOBCHARTERS ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: December-30-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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Hay guys, thanks for the warm welcomes.... skutsch, Deck is pretty solid.. some hatches need stiffining but might wait till we see what else rears its ugly head first..lol.. Yes, the engine runs... It actually starts right up very well despite being carbureted. bhectus, yeah, this one was on Craigs list for 9500 and we ended up getting it boat motor and trailer for 4250.... Smithfamily, I'm located down in SW FL. Town called Englewood.. It's almost smack dab in the middle of Tampa and Ft Myers...
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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Congrats on your new boat and welcome to the site.
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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Looks like you have a good start on her,and looks pretty good. At 9k it would be hard to put more into it but with what you paid you can do so and still be under that figure easily. Keep the pictures coming please this will be interesting thread
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bhectus ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July-04-2010 Location: Gator Country! Status: Offline Points: 1809 |
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Looks like a solid start for sure! Definitely has a whole lot of wires in the engine bay!
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'02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold
'87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Rick keep in mind there are only a few resin manufacturers out there and I'm pretty sure West isn't one of them. Look up US Composits,they are down your way,good products,good prices and no paying extra for the hype.
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6157 |
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You have to find somewhere online to decode Chevy block casting numbers. Not a bad deal congrats! From the looks of the motor she's been in the salt quite a bit. Maybe set up a closed loop system when you overhaul it?
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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A closed loop system would not prevent what happened to that one Zach
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6157 |
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Ha yea, I am thinking for the sake of longevity as a working engine that (I assume) won't be pulled out of the water every evening therefore cannot be properly flushed between uses.
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MOBCHARTERS ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: December-30-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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What size and pitch prop are people running on a 23 Fish with a 350?
I have a 14X11 on there. Seems kinda small but there is only like 2-2.5" of clearance so. |
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mark c ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: May-09-2012 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 534 |
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A 3970010 block is an April of 69 to 1979 small block Chevy block was used for everything from a 307 ci to 400 ci engine and could be either 2 bolt or 4 bolt main bearing cap blocks. If it was originally an automotive block the engine assembly code is on the tab in front of the right side head just above where the water pump attaches to the block.
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6157 |
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The color on that transmission looks like it might have had a Waukesha in it when it was new.
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Well, we sure have accomplished a lot over the weekend... All new wiring, new manifolds, new risers, bilge pumps and hoses, oil sending unit, thermostat, switches, and gauges. Whew..... Worked 4 days in a row on it. Just thought I'd post an update... I'll have pics up here soon!
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New Gauges, New Switches.. Installed.
![]() New Exhaust, Risers, Bilge Pump. ![]() All new wiring. ![]() Ready for her test run... ![]() Sittin purdy.. ![]() SO.... we found the reason he didn't have a thermostat in the motor when we bought it.. and why the motor smoked so much... and why he didn't want to put it in the water for us to sea trial it... . He had the hose from the check valve that supply's the raw water for cooling into the water pump reversed.. Instead of going into the inlet of the pump he had it going into the outlet...lol.. Testing it on a hose you would have a hard time seeing this as the pressure from the hose sends it threw and out the exhaust. Was an easy fix and solved tons of things we were scratching our heads about! We ran the boat for about 1.5 hrs got her up to around 22-24mph, cruised nicely at 2600rpm. Now, the next step for us is moving all the safety gear and electronics over from the other boat. I'll continue to keep putting pics and status updates up in case anyone has any cool ideas on configurations an such... |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Orange oil filter!
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bhectus ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July-04-2010 Location: Gator Country! Status: Offline Points: 1809 |
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Wow, the boat has come a long way in such a short time! Congrats and job well done.
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'02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold
'87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
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63 Skier ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-06-2006 Location: Concord, NH Status: Offline Points: 4291 |
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Glad to hear you have it on the water! Neat project, I really enjoy seeing projects on the larger CC hulls. I'll be curious what results you get with that prop, agree it seems like you'd want more pitch but don't have a clue what was run on those boats.
Any comments on how it handles chop, handling when running with the swells? |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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14x11 sounds about right for a small block powered 23' vee hull. My buddy's 20' Shamrock with a 302 had trouble pulling a 13x10.5 Acme. Im surprised that the big block wasnt the powerplant of choice for such a large boat.
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6157 |
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Nice job on that wiring dude. You didn't crack that bad boy wide open??? That motor seems to be in pretty good health given the compression numbers.
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MOBCHARTERS ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: December-30-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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Really love how these boats sit in the water too!
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DayTony ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June-30-2013 Location: Salem MA Status: Offline Points: 832 |
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Hey Mob i just read through your post, good buy! nice boats.
I currently own a 78 fish. I love and hate it. they are a little different but pretty much same animal from the 78-86. the 14-11 is the factory prop, i dont however know if the 350 is factory. I was under the assumption these boats came with the ford powerplants. But my knowledge of the fish grows slowly greater each day( they are tough to find out info on) as you will come to find out. any info i have found i will gladly share. Also please let me know how the west system holds up to cracking, I have many cracks to fill in mine. so one thing i notice is you do NOT have trim tabs. when my trim tabs were not working on my fish i just assumed not go out in it. I actually had a failure and had to hose clamp them down to allow myself to run faster than headway on a trip once.( i was overloaded) you say you got only 23-24knots, was that with full tank and passengers? I would bet with a set of tabs you would easily gain a few knots. My fish has the 70Gal tank right on the stern rather than under floor, so the weight distribution in yours is going to be a little better. |
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