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    Posted: June-19-2006 at 8:03pm
The boards running along the insides of the boat above the carpet. Kick boards? ive heard them called. 10ft long, 9-1/2" high, 1/2 inch thick. Mine have had contact with saltwater, and have begun to fall apart a touch. Thinking about replacing them with a white oak. Its the only thing i think that wont warp or split after stained and sealed. The problem : No idea where to get it. Checked aroud and you would need to find someone to plane it down sice the standard seems to be 3/4. Any comments or other options would be gratefully appreciated. Im sure anyone with an older CC has or has had this problem since the fake wood ones that were standard dont last forever.
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I'm also pondering what to replace those boards with as well. It seems that wood (of any kind) is just going to have to be replaced eventually. I was thinking of just using plywood and soaking it in epoxy before covering it with carpet or something.
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Make it out of cypress, it will not rot.
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I looked at your pictures and you have the same Plywood Boards i have with the wood contact paper over them. I made the mistake of taking my boards off and ripping the contact paper off, which means they fell apart. My boat hasnt been in the water YET this ummer because of this. Looks as if the choices are a cheap easy pine, that can be replaced easily, or go for an expensive wood and take the chance that it will last longer.
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I know what you mean...they used plywood...but finding 10 foot lenght is not to be found in my neck of the woods!

On the Ski Nautiques , side storage ...I am changing to configuration slighly...boxing in the sides up to the shelf in carpeted plywood and putting varnished mahogany as a rail extending up...will post some pics soon!
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Back in '89 when I restored my '77 Martinique, I just used 1x white pine and sealed the wood with bilge paint (I now know better and would use epoxy resin). 17 years later the carpeted "kick boards" were still solid.
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David, very interesting. Are you saying you ran something like 1" x 4" pine from front to rear, screwed them down, and stacked them up from bottom to top? I guess you could just bend a curve into them as you screwed them down? 1 x are 3/4" thick right? This sounds pretty thick but I guess it would be solid. Am I understanding you correctly? I may try this on my '66.
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Yes, but more like one piece of a 1x8. Basically, the board ran front to back with the bottom tight to the floor and continueing up about 2" higher than the horizontal shelf glassed to the side of the boat. The bottom of the "kick" board was anchored to the floor via blocks that were first screwed to the floor every so often. Then I screwed the bottom of the "kick" board to the blocks. The "kick" board was first carpeted with the carpet wrapped around to the back. At the front of the kick board, I cut it an angle that transitioned nicely into the side of the boat. On my boat, the shelf had a straight edge to mount the "kick" board to. the shelf assumed the curvature of the boat.   I can email pictures to you if you desire.

oh yea, the top of the "kick" board was screwed into the edge of the shelf.
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there are other materials that you could use Extira

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You can get white oak from any good wood supplier. Look up hardwood in the yellow pages. As Tim said, cypress is also good and it is much softer and easer to work with.
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Andy....the extira product looks interesting! Any Idea on cost for a 16'x4'(1/2 inch) sheet?
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Not use about that size but... we buy 4 x 8 x 3/4" for about 37.00 a sheet that’s about 1.15 a sqft. So I would guess about 75.00+/-. I've tested this stuff at work (I was skeptical about it) so took a piece and miced it then submerged it for a month and half submerged another and the swelling was very minimal and went back down.
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the Komatex stuff is what Sea-Ray uses according to GE Polymer
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Yeah, this artificial stuff sounds intresting, but i would like to keep it a wood so i can stain and seal it to make it look real nice. I also plan on reapplying the alluminum strip that tops the boards. Trying to keep it looking original.
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David, I would very much like the pics if emailing them is not too much work. jim@electricaltrainingusa.com

I may try your approach on the '66. The side boards on the old Mustangs were very cheezy. They are covered with some kind of ugly moldy vinyl. No shelves, just pockets that collect water.

I would like to have some idea of the scale of the blocks and the shelf. Pics would really help.

Thanks in advance.
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Another thing you might consider is the decking boards sold by Home Depot and Lowes that is made of a polymer - doesn't fade, peel, etc., and comes in 12 foot lengths - and about twice the cost of wood... but will never need replacing.
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A guy @ the lumberyard today told me cedar planed at 1/2 would be a good choice if it was'nt showing..covered by carpet Etc....anyone ever use cedar???
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Im in the process of replacing my combing pads and we are using marine grade plywood, Ill post pics next week they are completely custom.
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Cedar is a relatively dimensionally stable wood with good rot resistance. Port Orford white cedar more so than the western reds. However, if using cedar, I would still seal with epoxy prior to carpeting. I sort of like the plastic wood idea.

All the factory coaming pads on my '93SN are all made with plywood. However, it is NOT marine grade. Remember, marine grade plywood is simply considered a structural plywood, not anymore rot or water resistant than exterior grade plywoods like CDX. All that was done to protect the plywood from water is a plastic sheet between the wood and foam rubber. The wood is still perfect to this day.
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I pulled out the kickboard on the stbd side of my '70 Mustang. It was pretty nasty, the wood is in decent condition but that vinyl that is stapled on with the stapled vinyl pockets to collect water are pretty much useless.

I would like to replace this also, does anyone have any good pictures of what they have done to these in the older CC's?
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