Wrecked My Ankle - Foot Did Not release -

So it finally happened to me. Thursday eve coming off of 1 ball on the very first pass I took a spill (it was a weird one) and my front foot did not come all the way out of my binding. Ankles are not supposed to twist like that for sure.

WIth this in mind do any of you have experience with the Reflex or Edge type of "release" bindings?   Pro's, Con's, drawbacks etc.... Let's go ahead and rule out price as a con because lets face it, if you are on this forum you know all to well about the cost of our toys.

Just for background - I have always used DBL High Wraps - Looking at possibly going to Hardshell front and rear toe.

Hoping for some not terrible news from the Ortho Dr. this morning.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Gary

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Did you miss the above thread? Sorry to hear the bad luck. Been there, done that, probably will do it again. I used to ski double Wiley’s, front didn’t realease. I now ski with an HO Syndicate Hardshell with release. Still hadn’t fully made up my mind about the rear but at the moment I’m on an old Radar Vector that’s too deliberately too big and I don’t cinch it down. I wasn’t happy with the Reflex R style. Absolutely LOVE the Hardshell and wish I did the switch years ago, despite my $350k+ leg. I was reluctant to try a release and Hardshell but obviously will never go back.

Do your best to keep from going insane. It does get better.

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I feel for you, Bro. Sorry about the incident. Many of us have been there and done that (in some form or another).

I've been using Wiley double-high wraps for many years. Prior to that, I was riding the H.O. Animal bindings. I had a couple of close calls on some nasty out-the-front falls where the rear foot came out, but the front didn't. I escaped significant injury, but I was concerned. I gave the folks at Wiley's a call. The guy I spoke with recommended that I buy the next size up in the double high-wraps. I was doubtful at first. They dude even said that he would take the used bindings back if I wasn't happy with the results. Well, I didn't need to send the next-size-up bindings back as I really love the way they work. First, I don't have to struggle to get my feet in the bindings. I used to need half a bottle of Duck Butter or Bindings Slime to get my feet in the bindings. Now I just put a little lube inside the binding and a little on each foot. No tugging and pulling and ripping out finger holes any more. Easy on, easy off.

My feet feel very secure in the bindings and I've not had any pre-release issues where the bindings should have held...but didn't. Now, the ski comes off in a hard fall and stays on for most falls.

I've considered some other bindings, but I keep with the Wiley's. I would love to demo some Syndicate hard-shell bindings, but I need to find someone willing to do a demo.

Hope you hair-up and heal-over quickly.

JQ

Jonny Quest wrote: I've considered some other bindings, but I keep with the Wiley's. I would love to demo some Syndicate hard-shell bindings, but I need to find someone willing to do a demo. JQ

JQ, supposedly HO will demo their Hardshell. That’s what their website leads you to believe. But just like EVERY interaction I’ve ever had with HO, you get ZERO response until you start complaining and bashing on Ball of Spray.

MrMcD wrote: I met a fellow last year while purchasing a trailer hitch he had for sell. He had just set the record for water skiing in his 72 year old age group. I want to say it was at 35 off?   I should remember his name and accomplishments as he was a neat guy. He showed me his ski and binding set up, he went to it after blowing out his ankle and then a knee.   His set up was a plate under both boots.   In a crash the entire plate comes off the ski and both feet and boots remain in the plate. He said he has never been hurt in the new device.   He modified his so he could adjust his feet forward or aft till it best met his needs.   Sorry I don't have a brand name but there is an answer out there. I have chosen to ski old school, Low wrap front boot, open heel. Easy slip on easy exit in crashes, at least so far in 40+ years on slolom. I never went deeper than 6 balls at 32 off, 36 mph.

Those sound like the GOODE binding system

My wife's injury in May - her foot stayed in high wrap front binding.


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A little surgery later.....


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She's wearing both shoes again now and looking forward to bindings which release.

My daughter used Reflex on her trick ski and will move to a reflex next year when she gets a new Slalom. Turns out the Reflex are more comfortable (for most people) than are rubber bindings, and have an added measure of safety. BKH

Air206 wrote: Lisfranc can be tough repairs. Follow aftercare instructions ...TO THE LETTER. All the Best for your repair.

100% for sure.

thanks

Gary

A friend snapped his femur in half behind my boat. BoatUS covered his 5K deductible without admitting any liability. At the time I only had 1K in medical but they covered it anyway. After that I upped it to the max which was 10K at the time. My main concern these days is helicopter evac costs. I have heard some horror stories from people that have had injuries and been flown to the hospital from the lake we go to. At the time my friend broke his femur (early 2000's) the helicopter ride was 13K and his insurance covered it. Now I hear the ride is in the 50k to 100k range and most insurance companies don't cover it.

For your reading pleasure
Lisfranc - http://www.southfloridasportsmedicine.com/lisfrancs.html

Might be the cheapest $65 ever spent and great peace of mind when in the outback.

We have used Calstar a couple times per month each winter and they have been outstanding. As they fly in they communicate with us on the ground for information and giving advice.   When the clouds drop in they are grounded.
They are also good about giving updates after the fact but Tahoe is a small community, and the ski community is pretty tight compared to large cities.
They also donate time to fly in and train with us nearly every year to make sure we know how to safely approach a helicopter when it comes in on the snow.   Frostbite can happen in seconds on unprotected skin when it is 5 degrees and the chopper has a 100 MPH wind from the rotor. My experience, they are very serious and offer top notch help.
Distances would be flight of the crow, 70 miles to Sacramento UCD Med Center, 40 miles to Reno, or 10 miles to Lake Tahoe. Level of care available goes up with the distance involved.
My son flew the Apache for the army up until last year, he thinks they are good.

All those item's you listed are pretty much SOP among the industry, the LZ training medical follow ups, and all .
Our program is an IFR program (we fly in the clouds) and we own GPS approaches into most of the hospitals that we service, which most if any of the subscription companies do not as they're a fly for profit and not affiliated with a health system.
If the patient needs a helicopter I hope their going to a level 1 trauma center, if not they should be in ALS or BLS ambulance saving tons of money.

I had a traumatic brain injury last December working at Keystone, it was a very icy day -15 degrees with winds of 20-25 mph. Was taken to the clinic where I was diagnosed with 3 brain bleeds. Next I got a Flight for Life helicopter ride to a level one trauma center, Lakewood Hospital. Workers comp covered all expenses but the helicopter ride was $28,500. I’ve been on several helicopter rides but Ed the pilot was the best. He had over 18,000 hours and was an Army veteran. In no time we were at the hospital where I received excellent care. It really doesn’t matter what the cost is for transport when your brain is traumatized.
As part of my job for the resort I clear landing zones for Flight for Life. I have a newfound respect for all involved in air transport.

Happy to be slalom skiing again this summer although I did take this year off from competing as I’ve still got a ways to go before I’m ready. Will definitely be back in CO working this winter and competing in slalom next summer. I’m only 73, move it or lose it.

gun-driver wrote: Todd wasn't there just a big ta do down in Florida on a fly for profit company over charging or something like that.

Oh I don’t know. I have strict rule in our house, no sports on tv and no news.