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IAughtNaut
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First off, I have to say that second picture is freakin cool, I hope you bought the photographer a beer for that one. Did you land it?
And sure, its possible to look cool, but I don't have the top gun goggles and Johnny Cash snowsuit with matching helmet and my name on the back...something tells me I won't look as good in a bright yellow helmet with RENTAL spray-painted across the front in pink letters...hello ladies! |
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mdvalant
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I bought a helmet after I knocked myself cold my first year snowboarding. Hit the snow/ice so hard on the back of my head I didn't remember anything for 6 hrs. Drove home and everything. I was living by the moment, fine at the time, but not retaining any memory what so ever. It was interesting.
I will never board without one after that. Plus, you can look cool with a helmet too: |
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IAughtNaut
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That's a good tip on the edge changes, I can change edges on my wakeboard with very little effort, but I feel like it might be different when the water's solid. I'm glad someone else out there thinks a faceplant's funny though...my buddies never understand how they can bring the boat back around to me after a strong wipeout and I'll be in the water laughing.
I'll probably eschew the brain bucket though...I hate wearing them when I go to the cable park with my wakeboard, it can't be much better in the snow. I don't keep anything important up there anyway. Plus I just got a sweet new hat from nautiquegear that I want to bust out. How's the man-card math work on that one, Steve? Is it +1 for not wearing a helmet, but -1 for being excited about a new hat? I still come out even, right? |
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Keeganino
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Jamesons always has a nice medicinal warmth. Funny post. I like Morfoot's advice. You have to really exaggerate throwing your hips to get from edge to edge. Remember- Always on an edge never ride flat. Flat is about an eighth inch from disaster. Faceplants in the snow are not as funny as on the water...
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IAughtNaut
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You do bring up an interesting point...normally I am a beer drinker, but there's something a bit off-putting about a cold beer after being in 12 degree temperatures. My friends and I all got these disposable flasks from restoration hardware (which I cannot recommend HIGHLY enough...they're like adult capri suns pouches! and 100% plastic so they're perfect for sporting events with metal detectors...just sayin) so I need to decide what kind of poison to fill them with. Normally I would go with Jameson or Dew, but I don't know if the Irish are really a snowboarding people...though it does warm me from the inside. Which magical elixir is going to make me better at this? |
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tullfooter
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It sounds like you're going to have a great time.
I think the advice that mdv gave is spot on. The zig-zag heal side, meaning your heals are on the uphill side, is the way we've taught quite a few boarders. If you've been wakeboarding, you have an advantage over most new boarders, even ones coming from the two-plank world. Three weeks ago we taught my brother-in-law's girlfriend how to board. She's never snow skied or wakeboarded, and was able to get down the hill without falling after an hour. Figure out what foot will be forward based on your wakebarding. I'm right foot forward (goofy foot) so I would set up at the top of the hill and shift more weight to the right leg and start moving to the right. Then by bringing my left leg even with the right and digging the heals, I can come to a stop. Then do the same thing going left; shift the weight to the left leg, slightly point the left end of your board down, and head to the left. Then you try to do that without the stop in between, A little hint is to use your arms and shoulders, and point which way you want to go. That will help your hips to turn in the direction your hoping to go. No disrespect to Morfoot, but I think he was trying to get you to run healside to toeside. That will be for your second day, or after lunch and a couple of cold ones. One important (the most important) piece of advice I can offer; WEAR A BRAIN BUCKET!!). When you catch an edge on a snowboard, you go down quick, like a wakeboard. Unless your running in deep powder, the helmet is your bet friend if you catch an edge while riding toeside. Second piece of advice, stay off the bunny hill. I'm not saying that to protect your man-card, I'm saying it because you need some slope to get yourself moving. A little speed helps. It's similar to how riding a bike too slow isn't as easy. I hope this helps. BTW, speaking of names of hills. I took up snowboarding 10+ years ago after tearing my ACL while snow skiing down a hill called ShushyCat, at Crystal Mountain here in MI. It's a black diamond run with steep slope and tough moguls. At Crystal, they have all the chair lift columns color coded. The lift columns on ShushyCat are pink. Have fun. Post pics. |
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IAughtNaut
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75 Tique
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Well, that works too. How much are squares? Can I buy one? Let us know how it goes. |
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Adam, I learned to snowboard at Holiday Valley about 8 years ago and was able to pick it up fairly easy. I'm 43 and a southerner so I know you can do it. Best advice I can give you is don't think its going to turn like a skateboard or wakeboard cause it won't. Best advice I can give you is you are going to have to place more weight on your forward foot (yes downhill) and swing your hips and use your rear arm to help you.Your basically pulling a Chubby Checker and "Do the Twist". "Pivot" the board under your front foot. To stop the board you want to teist the board so that both your toes are pointing down hill and lean on your heels to dig in the rear edge of the board. Thats why skiers hate boarders because they PLOW snow when stopping.
Don't start off by going down Cindy's Run as it is pretty steep and you can really get going fast and outta control. I'd suggest taking the Mardi Gra express and head down that way. |
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IAughtNaut
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Well that doesn't sound like very much fun...takes some of the adventure out of it! I think the fact that I might get hurt is one of the reasons they were so insistent I come. In fact, we even came up with a super bowl-style squares game so that we can wager on when and how me and one of the more fragile girls will hurt ourselves. |
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mdvalant
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You got the zig zag part right on. Never actually point the board down the hill. Just keep your toes pointing down it and work back and forth while staying on your heels. You can even do this with your back to the hill to work on the toe side. Just do the same thing as you were...back and forth across the hill while still sliding down it.
When I say catch an edge, yes I do mean the side edge. You'll never catch the tip of the board unless you're in a foot of powder... |
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IAughtNaut
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Ok, lemme see if I follow...It almost sounds like your advice is to kinda side-slide down the hill, and then, for lack of a better way of saying it, zig-zag back and forth without ever actually pointing the board downhill, keeping it for the most part perpendicular to the slope of the hill. Is that correct?
When you say catch an edge, do you mean the side edge or the front edge? Cause on waterskis, because of the curve at the tip of the ski its virtually impossible to bury it. The tips of the snowboard curve up the same way, though probably not as much, is it the same thing? Or am I going to catch that tip at catapult myself over the nose? |
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75 Tique
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My son made the transition from snow skis to snowboard several years ago. The first couple hours was tough for him. (admittedly, he was younger, around 12 or 13 and maybe not quite as athletic at the time as you might be) His lesson was scheduled for the afternoon. After the lesson, with some basic direction on a very small slope, he picked it right up. So my suggestion would be: dont go to the top of the mountain and head down the black diamond on your first run. Ease into it. So as to avoid awkward moments with the hot tub ladies, maybe run to one of the local slopes around Cleveland a time or two before the big trip and get a feel for it.
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mdvalant
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haha sounds like you're in quite the predicament Adam. Good choice on going though. The hot tub should be worth the whole trip. Plus, you'll need it after all the falls you'll be taking.
I am an athlete, played all the sports in HS, wakeboarding for 10 years, footing for 15, (im 23) and just started snowboarding in 06 because I was worried I'd be crazy and get hurt in HS and miss my sporting chances. Anyways...next to learning how to surf, snowboarding was one of the most difficult things I learned how to do. I don't mean to get you syked out by any means but don't plan on being Shaun White your first trip out. I went out thinking psh, I got this...nope lol A lot like wakeboarding a very good tip is to always keep the downhill side of the board up and out of the snow. You catch an edge on that puppy and you're going down in a hurry. Much like on the water when you can't even get your eyes shut in time and the water gets behind your eye lids... Best way to get started is stand at the top of the hill like your on skis facing directing down the hill. let your left tip angle down the hill to the left a ways and then bring your right tip up a little and go down the hill to the right. Switching as you get across the hill each time. Does that make sense? stay on your heels while your doing this and just keep sliding down like that. It's really difficult (or at least is was for me) to actually get one tip going down the hill and being able to rock back and forth from heal to toe until you get that side slide method locked in. Check out this link I found...it can help you much more than I can. Snowboard Tips |
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IAughtNaut
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I know "Ski, Ride, and Foot Talk" is supposed to mean on the water, but its winter in Ohio and I'm getting desperate.
I got talked into going snowboarding at Holiday Valley in New York in a couple weeks (mostly because the girls that are going said "come on, don't you want to drink beer in a hot tub with us?"...the answer to that would be yes...pictures to follow). Problem is, I've never snowboarded before, I've only ever even been on snow skis once and that was about 6 years ago. I've been waterskiing for probably close to 20 years, and I just started wakeboarding this past year. I'm decent at it, not great, but I'm learning. It seems like I should be able to transfer some of my wakeboard game to the snow, but I don't know. Can anyone help me out? How similar is snowboarding to wakeboarding, if at all? Anybody got any tips? Pretty much all I got so far is aim it down the hill and try to keep keep my head above my feet and out of the snow. |
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