Wake skiing

Maximal691 wrote: Easy Pete, i was making a joke a a out the elevator. I'll put a smiley face next time so my humor won't be lost through text. Sorry I havent created a profile, it's been a busy weekend. Honestly though it's the least of my concerns. If you really want we can be Facebook friends. I do have a boat, you have seen pictures of it. I think it's pretty rude to insinuate I'm making that up, or the fact we have lake property. If it makes you feel any better, nynautique can verify I have a boat. He's been to my house and has seen it. I'm pretty sure is mentioned my name somewhere on here before, but it's max. I'm not a bad guy pete, the people on the boards here who have met me or have made transactions with me would probably agree.

Fantastic! When you do get the time, fill in the gaps!

Maximal691 wrote: I need less of a tram, more of an elevator.

OK, sorry for the link but it's obvious you did not look at the web site enough. As suggested, please forward the link to your dad - He may have more patience to thoroughly look and understand what they have to offer.

BTW, I take it you do not want to even post your first name in your profile? How about the diary entry? I'm beginning to get the idea that you really do not have a boat or a lake front property? Please correct me.

AirTique98 wrote: I will say the coolers are far lighter going back up!!! lol

trying to help Bill 'lighten' the load for the trek back up 98 steps...



its what brothers are for.....



john

that tram is sweet!! i've got bill barely beat...100 steps from my back door to the dock. over the past couple years i've hauled about 20 tons (literally 20 tons) of rock down those steps to shore up my shoreline...2, 5 gallon buckets at a time with a homemade carry yoke...no need to head to the gym...

Maximal691 wrote: I'm on a cliff side of the lake. It makes everything from lifts to coolers a chore.

     "Cliff side" is basically most of our lake....but it does translate to some very calm water the majority of the time. I know what you mean by the cooler issue...98 steps from the top deck to the dock at my place and that's when the lake is at "full pool". Not really as bad as it sounds as it is a series of level changing "runways" interspersed with stairs. I will say the coolers are far lighter going back up!!! lol

I'm on a cliff side of the lake. It makes everything from lifts to coolers a chore.

i guess natural is relative...a collection of rocks is certainly more natural looking than corrugated steel...but a pile of rocks would protect just as well...

also, tim's photo sums up why i've never trick skied...i just think it looks kinda fruity...there is one old guy on my lake with a nice ski nautique that trick skis...he's really good, but he looks like he's swing dancing out there no offense to anyone who trick skis, it's just not for me.
i'm sure figure skating takes a lot of talent too, but i'd much rather play hockey instead...
just for the record (as it seems to matter somewhat in this thread) i live on the water, wakeboard 100% of the time behind my 2001 with about 800lbs ballast, and my best tricks are heel and toe 5's...

Morfoot wrote: yes some are also not allowing retaining walls because the owners want the natural beauty of the lake.

The DNR up north in my district hasn't allowed retaining/erosion control walls since they started enforcement back in the 20's.

Maximal691 wrote: And I hold my statement that trickskiing is pretty much dead. When was the last time you saw it on tv? Or anywhere for that matter. That stuff went the same way as trick Rollerskating.

Well let's see I guess that is a matter of opinion. I'm guessing you haven't been to a Professional Waterski Tournament in a while. I've been going to the Master's at Callaway Gardens for quite some time and trick skiing is very much alive and well. With the comment about it not being on TV then I guess Slalom skiing is dead too with that philosophy as it hasn't been on TV in forever too. They're are plenty of pro young trick skiers out there younger than 24 and some juniors are up and coming. It's still fascinating to watch and the crowds I've seen still love the sport so it's not dead as you so proclaim.

I bet 98% of people could walk right by Chris Parrish, Andy Mapple, Kristi Overton Johnston, and not know who they are and of there accomplishments in the field of watersports unless you are a fan of the sport. It all depends on your point of view. Andy Mapple can still tear up the slalom course at 49 and Bob Lapoint is 56 and can still do the same. How many pro wakeboarders are gonna be able to throw their game the same when they are 50+. Not too many I'd guess.

I'm a wakeboarder as well but you don't need a boat loaded down with 1500lbs to throw your stuff. I've done it behind a Bass boat with the motor trimmed up. You have to work a little harder but that is what makes you a better athlete IMO. Most guys I see boarding with all that weight can barely ride but yet they churn up the water for those who are fishing,skiiing or boarding as well. Laws are starting to take place on some lakes forbidding wakeboard boats to fill their tanks because of erosion problems, and yes some are also not allowing retaining walls because the owners want the natural beauty of the lake.

52nd Masters Ski Tournament

Jaret Llewllyn on his toe pass. The dude is 40 yrs old and still looks good on the water.


51st Masters

Whitney McClintock Masters TRICK Champion age 19

Maximal691 wrote: Profile? What do you want to know about me? Just feel free to ask me.

When I greet and welcome new members to CCfan, and if they haven't given their first names, I will typically ask if they would mind adding that to their profile. I will then go on to say that they should take some time and read some of the great info and threads taking note that most use first names. Unlike other sites, CCfan members don't use screen names very much.

Making a diary entry is also a great way to fill others in on yourself. The pictures and text tell lots. Take some time and do a diary entry if you care to.

quinner wrote: Maximal691 wrote: Well you said "...to embark in something that takes almost no skill, like surfing and wake boarding", which is just insane. You must be just turning down free boats and sponserships at a cyclic rate if it's that easy to you. Its that mentality that holds sports back. Obviously I am referring to the basic skills to embark on a specific discipline, and yes IMO surfing is about as difficult as standing on a dock, please explain to me otherwise. Wakeboarding does require a bit more skill, balance and a bit of strength however is still nowhere near as difficult as tricking, again explain to me otherwise. Um, also not sure where my personal abilities were part of my conversation?? Holding back the sport, wow, lol, OK. You mentioned TV, can't say I have seen any water sport other then Wakeboarding on ESPN or any major network in years, guess I just don't have the clout I used too Maximal691 wrote: just because its not for you doesn't mean its a worthless throw away sport. I love slalom skiing, i also like wakeboarding. I even have fun taking out my friends who can do neither of those on a tube. When did I say it is not for me or a worthless sport? I Enjoy wakeboarding from time to time, particularly anytime I have a chance to ride a different board. What I did touch on originally is what I don't like about wakeboarding and surfing to some degree, the common mentality that you need thousands of pounds of ballast and a 3+ foot wake to do it. As an example a neighbor bought a 220 last year, running 1000lbs on top of the factory ballast, that boat comes out and all 220 acres of our lake is destroyed for riders who can barely do wake to wakes. Another neighbor started surfing last year, same thing. Maximal691 wrote: I just think it's funny that Airtique is so concerned about losing lake front yet still has a boat that gets loaded up with ballast and surfed behind. Pretty hypocritical. I also like the condiscending tone that they cant afford property on the lake. News flash, if you can drop close to six figures on a boat, chances are you can buy some property on a lake. So what are you max, 20-21 yrs old?? And your calling out Bill, who may be old enough to be your grandfather, as a hypocrite and condescending, not cool. Here's another wake up call, just because someone has a six figure wake boat does not mean they can or should afford it.

Chris,
Very well put. I agree totally.

NG,
You don't even want to fill in you profile?

I think were going to have to disagree that wake boarding doesn't require much talent. You're personal abilities came in when you said "it takes almost no skill" that would mean it must be really easy for you. I've been doing it for a while and I still find it challenging. As far as surfing goes, I've never done it from behind a boat, just in the ocean. Although I could stand up, I wouldn't say I had mastered it, and it was far from just standing on a dock. And as far as what bill said, it is condescending to say these people cannot afford lake property. Suppose I said said I was 60? Would it be ok for me to make these posts then? I'm actually 24 but I don't feel like age has anything to do with this.

Maximal691 wrote: This is just turning into a pissing match. If anyone has any wakeski info post up. Mdvalant did you catch my post about a price for your skis?

     No pissing...just opinions. And while I do own an Air and it does take in approximately 450lb of water when used for boarding it has never had sacks and has never been used to surf. My son uses his own boat for that when he comes over from N.C.

Not selling at this time, asked my buddy and he voted to keep them around. Sorry. Also sorry I'm on my phone and unable to help you argue with the grumpier old men.