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M3Fan
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What if boat dr and 79 are the same person?
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oldschoolnautiq
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I am in total agreement guys. This boat was serviced and stored immaculately. It has spent the "right amount of time" on the water. The boat hasn't been stored for years at a time in a garage, but has been regularly used during the summer months. It has mostly been used for cruising and pleasure, not as much skiing and boarding. The hours have been very gentle, but often enough that everything has been lubricated and well kept. Keep in mind, the price says OBO.... |
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boat dr
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Chad, I "humbly" have to agree with 79 on the low hour motor,cyl.rust has a habit of lurking where it can't be seen.Pitted cyl. walls are as bad or worse than a high hour motor.79 would a leak down test detect pitting lower in the cyl? Sounds like luck of the draw.
A rebuild is expensive no matter the reason.........boat dr |
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Nautique2001
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Chris,
I agree with you. Tim and I were talking at the boat show about "low hour" engines. From what I understand about engines, it's actually not good for them to just sit. They're meant to run and keep gaskets and stuff lubricated. I told Tim at the show that I wouldn't hestitate for a second to purchase a boat with over 1,000 hours, with good service records. Ken |
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79nautique
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Chad take a look at the boat and be very picky and look for flaws, non orginal parts, even small things to try and justify lower the price. It's like what was posted by someone else, do you want a turnkey boat or do you want to work on it some. ask who winterized it, how was it stored, how offen was it used, did it sit for years at a time or did the person just use it once or twice a year on vaction. Sitting for long periods isn't the best thing for the motor, do a compression test and/or leak down test to verify the engine's condition, so that you know the pistons are sealing good as well as the valves. Look at the fluids and smell them, does it smell burnt, or like gas, both are not good, does it look like fresh oil and tranny fluid or is it milky, water intrusion, not good. just go over it with a fine tooth comb that will help you feel out the seller in the process. Good luck keep us up to date on the rogress.
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TRBenj
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JMurph, thanks for the kind words and incredibly generous offer! If you dont mind, shoot me an email: TRBenj@gmail.com -Tim |
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JMurph
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oldshcoolnautiq,
For what is worth, I looked at a really nice 2001 (mid to late 80's) about three years ago and the price was about $8,000. I didn't end up buying it, but it was a good deal and did sell soon after I looked at it. It was basically all original (some minor upgrades), but only had about 500 hours and was in great shape. I think the more recent realization that these boats make great "low-cost" wakeboard boats has actually increased their value. You may get somewhere north of 10k for your boat, but I have seen alot of the 2001 hulls that are priced a little higher sit on boattrader and other sites for a long time. No doubt, it is a great boat. You're not going to get a kid to buy it though, so you'll probably need to wait for someone that really cares about the originality. That may take some time. Good luck. -JMurph |
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oldschoolnautiq
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You can take it too the bank. IT IS ALL ORIGINAL. |
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JMurph
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Don't take offense Tim. I'm sure 79 has no beef with you. I wanted to mention that I see you bought the Tique from down in VA. I pa$$ around that area quite abit going to and from the lake. If you need any a$$istance in getting it back home let me know. I would be willing to pick it up from Sean and meet you somewhere in nothern Maryland or PA. It's just a thought. I also see that you don't mind the road trip. Good luck and thanks for the Rankin group buy, eventhough I'm not partaking. Again, not taking sides, but boat dr. your last 19 out of 20 posts have been specifically to bash 79. (I am aware of your warm welcome that you received from 79.) I say welcome back 79 and how about employing some "water under the bridge" diplomacy to the matter. -JMurph |
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oldschoolnautiq
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87BFN owner Senior Member Joined: August 25 2006 Location: United States Posts: 325 Posted: February 19 2007 at 7:57pm | IP Logged | Report Post -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if you like working on them buy a cheaper one, want a turn key operation you pay for it. I wouldn't offer less then 10,500. Hard to haggle with a guy with a clean low low hour boat. Just my two cents unless he doesn't know what he has. But I am a$$uming he knows what he has. __________________ big blocks only Thats why I was asking because I haven't got the first email or call about it. i would think it was definately worth all of that because there are other guys out there asking $10000 for boats with 3 and 4 times the hours and not all original, but like everyone else, that just my .02 Oh, and sorry to get the bees nest stirring. |
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TRBenj
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Dont drag me into this pissing contest. |
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M3Fan
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Personally I think 12k for a 22 year old boat with any hour amount is compltetely crazy. Low hours on an engine doesn't equate to "good" all the time- ask 81Nautique about his low hour engine. I'd say any 2001 over 10k no matter what is ridiculous. At over 10k, you're getting into "really nice 1993 SN" territory. Sure, the wake won't be as huge but you'll get a good WB wake, twice the interior space, and no wood! To put it another way, you could get a 2001 model SN with a totally shot engine, re-build the engine your way and replace the interior for under 12k total.
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79nautique
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All doc want's to do is use this site to sell products, or as he calls it pa$$ savings on to other members. Everytime something gets listed for sale it's the DOC or Timmy with a new group buy and it's getting old they don't even use the proper catagory. And if the Doc does Post it's usually to bitch at me, so what do you offer Doc to this site, cheap low grade parts.
NO NOT A f**kING THING IS WHAT YOU OFFFER JACK a$$ |
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882001
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http://www.boattraderonline.com/adsearch/boatsearchprocess.html
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kemah texas
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MaddMarxx
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1985s are great all around boats, I had one and I loved it, what is the most you are willing to spend on it?
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jbear
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dr: He rants and he raves but when you meet him in person he is a different person. I am to old to suck up or be intimatated anymore, I just try to take things for what they are worth and not take things to serious. I try to stay away from this kinda thing usually on here, but the times I've met him in person he has been different than how he comes accross here. He was there with his tools at 7am when we were getting ready to start. And as Eddie said he was the "MC" of the job. He does have some skills under the motor box. Enough for me, I am out on this one.
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boat dr
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jbear, all i hear out of this moron is how smart he and how dumb everyone else is,as far as what i add to this site a little info and considerable saving to some of the vendors i have accounts with.
The one time 79 sold something on this site he shorted the guy,1/2 the parts and then cussed and ranted at him for wanting his parts,the nerve of that gut for demanding parts he had paid for. Ya'll may have to suck up to him or maybe he intimadates you with his 4 letter words,he don't impress me. He's the kind i invite out of my shop........... I will continue to offer a discounts to anyone that needs or wants to save a little money.87bfn how much did you save on the prop shaft? 79 Have you given any thing to this site but advice,and you get what you pay for.your spelling still sucks 79 get a life...............boat dr |
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87BFN owner
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if you like working on them buy a cheaper one, want a turn key operation you pay for it. I wouldn't offer less then 10,500. Hard to haggle with a guy with a clean low low hour boat. Just my two cents unless he doesn't know what he has. But I am a$$uming he knows what he has.
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hspore
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...if it's all original and the hours are correct, $10-11K would be a great buy, IMO. There's a lot of stuff out there that may be cheaper($6-7K) with more hours, but if you wind having to do repairs, you could be into it for close to that amount in no time.
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79nautique
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there are a couple in the diaries that are asking 12,500 with really low hours and claim to be all orginal
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75 Tique
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Plot of asking prices on this site. Looks like right around 10,000 for average condition. Go from there.
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79nautique
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and what the f**k did you offer? not a f**king thing again, like always. with the hours and if it is mint then it's going to be above average on the price, that's why I asked what are they asking. 12,500 if everything is in good order and all orginal might be a shade high put maybe not need to look at and see, compare here and the other places Brian suggest just don't be a jack a$$ and offer 7K,,, 10k at a min not to piss off the guy. |
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scott8370
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He is asking $12500.00. Is that the one?
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Scott
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jbear
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Easy dr......79's answer was correct, just maybe a little on the flip side. No-one should pay any more than the least a seller will accept. Unless you got gobs of money and just wanna help the seller out 'cause you are a nice guy.
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"Loud pipes save lives"
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Darrel
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Check at the site, The 2001.com, they should really be able to fine tune the value. Like BKH said they have quite a range.
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bkhallpass
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You can go to nada.com. This is kind of a "blue book" for boats. I warn you however, that the market generally brings a little more than the nada prices. This is particularly true for the 82-89 Ski Nautiques. Though they're 20 years old, they are coveted as a great wakeboard/all around boat for a reasonable price. You can also look in the reference section of this website. Looks like there are about 7 from 85 (I didn't check 84 or 86) prices ranging from $3700 to $12,500. Sometimes, I also do a search on boattraderonline.com, just to get an idea of pricing. I usually do a nationwide search so I get a large enough sample. BKH
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boat dr
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Another BOZO answer from Mr. Info, at least you spelled all the words right, 6 letters are about your max. The guy was wanting an honest price on average retail, i a$$ume.Is this correct oldschool?
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79nautique
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worth as little as the seller will take. what are they asking
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oldschoolnautiq
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1985 2001 all original with 276 original hours? Boat is almost as new as it was when purchased new and is all original. What should it bring guys? I have never seen one any better kept.
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