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Donald80SN
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Gary is pimping in the Lincoln
Might want to check out Boatmate Trailers too. They are in Tennessee. Editing my post. Also, there is a guy on this site rebuilding a Texas Long Horn themed Air / Sport Nautique, it is a 1999 model . Thread title 1999 Longhorn Nautique restoration Thread. He just had a very nice trailer built for his boat. There is a long thread on this progress and the trailer looked very nice. Magnum Trailers, Inc. . |
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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
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Gary S
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I have a 2013 Phoenix tandem under my '95, all in all works fine. Complaints are but not limited to Phoenix brand are 1- no rust proofing done to inside of channel rails. I even found the pieces cut out for side light access still laying inside them. If you have access to a Ziebart type of product it would be well worth it. 2- Bow rollers are a pain, some ramps the roller actually is at the gunnel or above. Ramlin had the best setup IMOH, too bad they are not in the boat trailer business. I liked it so much I'm changing mine over.
If your ordering get the retractable rear tie downs,very convenient. They also use Kia or Hyundai calipers and disc's,can't remember which off hand but easily available. I also have The Vault bearings that so far been good but I only launch once or twice a year. Best picture I have of the front- Boat sitting on trailer- Current Ramlin sourced bow stop in place of Phoenix's setup- Ramlin trailer with their bow stop and winch- |
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vbatla
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The GS22 got away. I'm now looking at a new Phoenix Special Edition single axle. They appear to be well built. I'd appreciate opinions, if anyone is familiar with this company.
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Hollywood
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vbatla
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Center of the lake is approx 60' deep. The rock was 20' - 30' from the shore. |
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vbatla
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Good point. I'm in Texas. Just updated my profile. |
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Dreaming
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Your location says Granger - I looked and found one in WA and one in TX, so it might help if you updated your profile location.. There has been a single axle Ramlin on CL in Seattle for about a year, Ad says it came from NY and has new tires etc and was for a V drive. If your in Granger WA, it may be worth looking at. There is a Mastercraft trailer in Mercer Island also that might be worth a look. If you're in Texas, neither one is probably worth the effort.
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stepper459
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It wouldn't be too small... might be a bit big though. The absolute best thing is to try it, if possible. |
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vbatla
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Will a 2002 Super Air fit on a GS22 trailer? |
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Donald80SN
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You might want to check over on PN or Planet Nautique. Their might be some in-site on an available used Vee Drive trailer. I would also check skiitagain.com Mostly water skiers, but you might get lucky.
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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
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stepper459
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Well, sadly the listing was deleted. It was either a Sport or SuperSport/Air from about 1999. Moot point in any case. |
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ultrarunner
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Looks to be a pretty deep lake according to the soundings. Is that underwater mountain you hit charted as a hazard with low lake levels? Looks close in to shore.
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vbatla
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Yikes, Vermont, that would be quite a haul! Curious though, what type trailer is available? |
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stepper459
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Fantastic. You will love that boat. Can't wait to see pics.
Used trailers are hard to find, but if you scour CL for a while you might find one. There's one near me but uhh, it's in Vermont - A bit far for you. |
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vbatla
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No special reason for an 02. A super clean 2002 came up for sale on CL and I bought it after a test run on the lake. Will post pics soon. Unbelieveable amount of room. Just love it. I need a trailer though. Any ideas where I could fine a single or tandem trailer? Everywhere I've inquired at have a 10 - 12 week lead time. Crazy!! |
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stepper459
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I went from an '89 Supra closed bow direct drive - a 21' - into my 2003 Super Air Nautique TE. We absolutely love the boat for our family, and I primarily wakeboard or wakeskate behind it - I love to ski but I'll just go behind a proper ski boat, lots of friends have those if I want a pull! I've skied behind a SuperSport and it was... ok. It's funny, the SAN has the same footprint as my old Supra - same width and length - but it has SO much more usable space. Any particular reason you're looking at 2002 specifically? I know the interior changed a bit between 2001 and 2003, I don't know when exactly. But my '03 has a deeper floor and slightly narrower gunwales, so a little more interior room overall, compared to the earlier SuperSports and Super Airs with the same layout. Just a thought. Either will be vastly better than a direct drive for interior space. |
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Correct. With the engines weight in different spots, the axle(s) are positioned differently. |
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desertskier
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Doubt it, but it depends on what trailer you have. I tried my '92 SN on my '89 trailer and the '92 was too wide. Also, there are differences between V-drive and DD trailers. I think the axle is farther back for the v-drives. |
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92 SN - Owned since 93
99 Pro Air 89 SN - Went to live on a lake in Texas 75 Donzi 16 - Sold in 93 |
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vbatla
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I've zeroed in on a 2002 Super Air Nautique TE. Would my trailer accommodate that boat? |
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63 Skier
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Sport - good wakeboard wake with ballast. In my experience surfing was a stretch, lighter people were able to, heavier were not. We use a pair of 400 lb. bags beside the doghouse, one 800 lb. in the back.
Super Sport v-drive - would be ideal for you, harder to find these days. Sport 216 or 226 - I'm not really familar with those boats. |
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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vbatla
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Thanks. I appreciate all the input while maneuvering through this. Finding another boat would get me on the water much faster, that's for sure. Mine would through out a nice wake with no ballast. Would that be the case with a sport, super sport or a Ski Nautique Sport 216? 226? |
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63 Skier
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+3, or maybe by now +7, on finding a new boat and enjoying the summer. By all means if you want to keep the 2001 engine and useful parts, and over the next year keep eyes open for a hull that needs engine, it would be a neat project if you have the bug to complete a restoration. Otherwise cut your losses and move on, you'll be MUCH happier IMO.
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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TRBenj
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It’s a 89 so it’s going to be a lefty as he describes with a 1.23 and rh prop.
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Jonny Quest
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+1 on looking for a good Sport Nautique. Make sure that you look for a 1993 or newer Nautique and the boat will have no wood to rot. In 1993 CC changed to all-composite construction.
JQ |
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2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
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Southvvind
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It compares favorably, but just in terms of above-the-waterline function, open bow, all that jazz. Wake-wise you're taking a hit, if you wakeboard primarily. Those Sunsetters are nice but the hull is flat and it makes a pretty weak wake unless you load it down big time. You'd be much better off with a Sport Nautique, or a ProStar 205, V-drive 205 or even a Super Sport Nautique. Those are good options. It kind of hurts my stomach to see that 2001 sunk to the gunwales and I'm sorry for your loss. I'm glad everyone was safe but oooooofffffff. |
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gun-driver
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I see one problem with the above mentioned plan and that is that 99.9% of the time the hulls are being scraped because the stringers are junk leaving it not worth repairing.
Hence the reason for the part out and scraping the hull. |
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Donald80SN
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They appear on this site and on classic correct craft facebook. Look for someone parting out a boat in the parts for sale forums. The wait could be long and could be short. If you go this route you have to be willing to travel to get one and spend all summer doing the work and not in the boat. Also, like was stated above, that engine has been underwater so it need to be taken apart or dealt with in some manor before it rust up. Water need to be removed and pickled in some manor. Filled with oil until you can deal with it. I am not an expert on this process, but you need to move fast. |
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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
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vbatla
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What's a good source for a stripped hull? |
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gun-driver
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Yes & Yes rotation But remember yours was under water so if you want to use that you need to get into yours start drying/cleaning that up ASAP Since yours was a lefty also, I would think you can use that as a short block and build the it with the GT40 parts from the other, Not sure how the cam profiles differ so you may or may not get the total GT-40 performance. |
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8122pbrainard
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If when you say "left", you mean clockwise, then it is a left hand |
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