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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frankenotter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-23-2015 at 3:18pm
I don't think there were wights.

There have been a few threads on here where people parted boats out and cut the hulls into little tiny pieces. A big chunk of metal would have been outstanding on one hand, and chainsaw hindering on the other.

That being said, I can't remember if any of the hulls originally had a python in them.

Tim is usually correct and that sucks.
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Is the list at rest or underway?
When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.



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I doubt they would weight them as your guy might have suggested.

The helm itself could account for a list, dash, gauges, steering wheel, etc. etc. all on the starboard side. Assuming everything else is balanced after that
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Almost all ski boats list towards the driver side due to the weight of the helm and instruments. The smaller the boat the more pronounced the lean.
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Thanks for all the replies guys,thanks for clearing up the rotation but don't want to lose sight of my original question.

Does anyone know of CC putting weights in the boat equipped with the Python engine ?

I knew this would be hard one to solve

Any insights ? Thoughts that would cause the list
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

. . . you are a little confused


Well . . it wouldn't be the first time!

Engine = LH
Prop = RH

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All 99 (and the vast majority of all 89+) direct drives have the 1.23 trans, which allows a LH engine to turn a RH prop. Sounds like both of you are a little confused on your rotation conventions.

I wouldn't put a dime of confidence in an inspector's guess about counterweight unless he either 1) could show you the weight or 2) had highly specific correct craft knowledge that eclipses that on this site... Which I wouldn't be holding my breath for!
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Originally posted by T_bone19 T_bone19 wrote:

I just assumed since the boat pulls to the left in reverse is was a Lh rotation. I am newbie so not sure


Mine also pulls to the left in reverse. This is normal operation as when in reverse the prop is rotating left. In forward your prop is rotating to the right.
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The technician told me the only explaination he could come up with his a counter weight to comebat the power from the engine.

Sorry I could have gotten the RH and Lh pull wrong. I just assumed since the boat pulls to the left in reverse is was a Lh rotation. I am newbie so not sure
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Originally posted by T_bone19 T_bone19 wrote:

I had a technician go through the boat rip up the floorboards and check the stringers, water, etc.. Everything a okay so no issue “under the hood”.


The 1999 boats were all composite which eliminated the potential for rotted stringers.

Did the Pythons have a different transmission that was LH rotation? My 1999 Pro Air is a RH rotation.
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Who told you there's a counterweight?

I don't recall a starboard lean. It would be to combat the RH prop though, not the LH motor. Python props weren't any larger in diameter (13-14") than typical ski nautique props of the 90+ era so I'm not buying the explanation at face value.
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Congrats on the new boat, and fwiw, it's not a 196, that Model Tag was only used 03'-09', yours is a Ski Nautique.

Pretty much all 99's would have been lefty motors so that is probably not anything to do with it.

Hopefully Scott (Scootdogydog) chimes in, he also has a 99' SN w/Python
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Recently purchased a 1999 CC/SN 196 closed bow with THE python engine. From what I’ve read/been told a SN 196 with a Python is rare.

The Issue

My boat list/leans to Starboard/right side, you can feel the weight in the boat. Pure guess I would say ~150 +pounds.   
I had a technician go through the boat rip up the floorboards and check the stringers, water, etc.. Everything a okay so no issue “under the hood”.

Explanation

Unique to this boat and Python engine. CC put in a counter weight in the boat to counter the effects/power from the Python Engine and LH rotation. I am not an engineer but if they needed a fixed weight on the starboard side pretty sure they would have variety of Driver weights weighing from 150-300pds any given day.

Questions

Is this true ? If so, can it be removed ?
If not true, any other explanation?

Appreciate the insights guys
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