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    Tim, cudo's for you doing something more than bitchin'. The trust fund for college is a great idea , BUT.........

 If you believe in research and the data that goes with those numbers , read on.

 The CDC has concluded the alcoholism is indeed a disease, and it is passed on from parent to sibling.Furthermore these numbers also conclude that there is a 50/50 chance that their son will repeat their behavior if there is an alcoholic or drug addict as a parent.

 From the data you provided he will receive those genes from both parents.While a quality education will provide for his monetary needs this will not be a cure for the disease that has ruined his family.

 You need to do a little more research on the role that AA has provided for the active and recovering alcoholic as well as the Al-Anon program for the spouses and children .

 Info will show you that most active alcoholics are well above normal IQ ratings. Our problem is not the lack of education, the problem lies in our inability to STOP> No matter what the consequences are.

 Without the program of AA there are but three choices.....

 #1 JAILS

 #2 INSTITUTIONS

 #3 DEATH

Thank God there was an AA room for me to walk into 20 years ago, or I would not be typing this now.........Billy/Karen

     Just for ***************s and giggles; I met Karen at an AA meeting. Became friends, dated and eventually married that wonderful lady. 

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boat dr Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: June-27-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4245	Post Options Post Reply Quote boat dr Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: I’m pissed off today. Posted: November-19-2008 at 10:16pm
	Tim, cudo's for you doing something more than bitchin'. The trust fund for college is a great idea , BUT......... If you believe in research and the data that goes with those numbers , read on. The CDC has concluded the alcoholism is indeed a disease, and it is passed on from parent to sibling.Furthermore these numbers also conclude that there is a 50/50 chance that their son will repeat their behavior if there is an alcoholic or drug addict as a parent. From the data you provided he will receive those genes from both parents.While a quality education will provide for his monetary needs this will not be a cure for the disease that has ruined his family. You need to do a little more research on the role that AA has provided for the active and recovering alcoholic as well as the Al-Anon program for the spouses and children . Info will show you that most active alcoholics are well above normal IQ ratings. Our problem is not the lack of education, the problem lies in our inability to STOP> No matter what the consequences are. Without the program of AA there are but three choices..... #1 JAILS #2 INSTITUTIONS #3 DEATH Thank God there was an AA room for me to walk into 20 years ago, or I would not be typing this now.........Billy/Karen Just for ***************s and giggles; I met Karen at an AA meeting. Became friends, dated and eventually married that wonderful lady.
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eric lavine Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: August-13-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13413	Post Options Post Reply Quote eric lavine Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: November-19-2008 at 8:11pm
	take the boy under your wing, be a role model, it will be rewarding for you and for the boy
	"the things you own will start to own you"

Mojo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: December-06-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3106	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mojo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: November-19-2008 at 5:20pm
	Tragic scenario for sure. One that impacts more kids than we'll ever know. If there's no one else in this young man's life to watch over his best interests, more of this will go on.. Nice of you to step up Tim !!! Moj'
	05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique

Hollywood Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13518	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hollywood Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: November-19-2008 at 5:00pm
	Well you can't fault them for trying, even if it was not your choice for donations. AA could have and might help prevent stuff from getting to this point (death). I would have chosen something to benefit the child as well though.

sanity Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: September-16-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 799	Post Options Post Reply Quote sanity Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: November-19-2008 at 3:49pm
	Tim.... There should be more like you.....

nates78ski Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Joined: January-24-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1041	Post Options Post Reply Quote nates78ski Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: November-19-2008 at 3:45pm
	I understand where you're coming from Tim, & good work on setting up the trust fund! Nate
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behindpropeller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Joined: July-31-2006 Status: Offline Points: 1810	Post Options Post Reply Quote behindpropeller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: November-19-2008 at 3:27pm
	Ok...getting trust fund set up now.


behindpropeller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Joined: July-31-2006 Status: Offline Points: 1810	Post Options Post Reply Quote behindpropeller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: November-19-2008 at 3:15pm
	So this is bothering me: One of the kids on our ski team has pretty much useless parents. They are addicted to drugs and alcohol. Both parents have been in and out of jail through the years. His grandparents have pretty much raised him, and they finally got legal custody of him. He is a great kid and also a great skier. His mother has been totally out of the picture for a couple years now. His dad has been trying to get his life together and has had some downfalls. This week his father passed away. I have no details why or how. I received the information on the arrangements today. All donations are to go to the AA chapter. That really bothered me. Here this kid has pretty much lost both parents and they don't set up a trust fund for his College. I think AA is great but it should go to his son for something worthwhile such as college. Grr..... Tim

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