Paint color for Interceptor Engine

Roger,
I have the later 60's 312 so I feel the sea foam green I've been looking at is appropriate. I agree that the 50's engines were painted slightly lighter. I've been looking since I've never felt the alpine green some have used is correct. The next time I'm over at my Sherwin Williams store, I'm going to take a close look at their color chips since they can custom mix an alkyd.

[QUOTE=reidp] This is the same color Phats is referring to above in a more true sense. But I believe it's still more blue than the original Interceptor green is supposed to be. This Chrysler "green" as they call it reminds me to a much lesser degree of the crazy Dupont Mystic paint, as it looks different in so many different lights as Phats noted.     


The first generation Interceptor engine color has been on my mind for years. I came across a case of touch up made for refrigeration compressors and it's damn close. It's marked as a "seafoam green" and not the "alpine green" that many have thought was close. I sprayed some so now I'm ready to start my 312 rebuild when needed. Even though internet color really isn't a good example, I did search out seafoam and it sure is closer than the alpine.

Riley wrote: That down angle seems to be just an adaptor to the standard trans. Pretty simple. I wonder why Eaton didn't improve their Dearbo rather then outsourcing to BW as their engines got more powerful?

Bruce,
The down angles bolted on to the tail ends just like a reduction drive does. Yes, pretty simple.

When the Dearbo trans had reached it's limit on HP's they had done everything possible to save the design like go to a self contained hyd. pump. However, the other components just couldn't handle it. I feel it was at that point that they realized that it was easier and cheaper to just buy the Velvets than to design/retool to a completely new trans. B/W had gotten the majority of the market by then anyway! It would have been a up hill battle!!

Eric,
I think the early V drives I'm thinking of are Chryslers. Not too many around. I've only seen a couple - In Shepards

the v's used u joints, bad idea as you know....Don cant figure that out... the new PCM v is the ticket, 2 gears no maintanance, its called the skivee, correct me if the spelling is wrong...to this day no one can cut a gear like our fellow Europeons,
I would imagine Walter's is searching for new business, I talked to a guy last week from somewhere (cant remember ***************)
He had a run in with Don, the conversation was quite amusing.

eric lavine wrote: possible the first down angle? evolution

Eric,
This would be the mid to late 50's and I do believe it was. Eaton also made the Dearbo is a V drive. Same down angle box but the output was under the trans. I don't feel the Dearbo V was the first though. I've seen some very early 50's V's. Paragon??? (mechanicals)

Bruce,
It's is surprising what a couple cans of paint can do!!

The picture you found on the internet has got to be Steve's Century. It's a single plank hull and I recognize the floor covering. It's also the first generation Y block exhaust manifolds like he has.

I had this picture here on my office computer before he dropped it in the boat.

h20loo wrote: 8122pbrainard wrote: ...The trend to originality is going back to the way the engines were done - The paint goes on almost before it goes out the factory door. That includes coolant hoses!!! Pete- that takes me back to a few years ago at a car show. I was showing a 67 dodge and the bypass hose was painted along with the spring clamps. I was faulted heavily for this. What I found amusing is that this was the original bypass hose and had never been changed or altered and I had showroom floor photos to support it.

Doug,
The difference in the "preferred" method of restoration between automotive and marine I feel goes back to the common practice of auto customization. Dressing up a engine was so common that it is probably the accepted "restoration" on cars after WWII. I do know that the older auto restorations are judged in the same manor as boats. In other words, you don't go putting chrome head bolts on a 1933 Auburn
Boat Tail Speedster.

What organization was the judging under that dinged you? Does this organization have judging guidelines?

Phatsat67 -- GTX's were sweet! I saw one on the road a few weeks ago. Neat cars!

Waterloo -- Thanks, of course I'm getting a little scared at this point. When I first saw it, it looked like this...
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...and I had that vision of what it could be and the thought that it wasn't too bad, and it could look like this:

Guess we'll see, one way or another how it ends up. Lot's to do!

M3Fan -- You're right, but it sure is fun lookin' at all the purdy pictures!

Also, to compare the color within the same picture is accurate. Those last pics I posted of my engine (above) are enough for me. I'm going with the Alpine Green.
What do you think 2 more cans? Or 3 more? Already got one can. Will need to do the tranny too.

Gang, comparing colors on computer monitors of digital pictures is a total crapshoot. Of about a million factors in how the colors are going to look, a few would be:

- White balance of the camera
- Saturation levels of the camera
- Ambient Lighting/Flash of camera
- Color calibration of monitor
- Ambient light in the room that has the monitor

And so on and so fourth. The only way you're going to see if that paint cap matches paint on an engine is if you physically set the can next to the real engine in the same light!

Alan,
The detailed 312 would get hit with a point deduction by the majority of ACBS judges.

A good example of detailed judging was a point deduction on a pre WWII upholstery job. The owner of the boat filed a complaint but didn't win. He used staples instead of tacks to attach his new upholstery.

Here's a quesion for you guys with the older restored boats, referencing the very first set of pictures. Is it considered correct to detail the engine like that or just paint everything, nut, bolts, hose clamps, etc like the factory and some of the lower pictures. That first engine is beautiful but I'm sure not correct. At that point in the restoration is it a preference call by the owner? and does it hurt in judging a boat if it's detailed like that?

This is the same color Phats is referring to above in a more true sense. But I believe it's still more blue than the original Interceptor green is supposed to be. This Chrysler "green" as they call it reminds me to a much lesser degree of the crazy Dupont Mystic paint, as it looks different in so many different lights as Phats noted. As for the Interceptor, I know there's some old shop somewhere that has to have a can of that stuff, which someone could match. Pete, hasn't it ever been an ACBS topic or challenge?      

Craig,
Yes, that's my 312. It's one in the batch of shots I sent to you for your reference.

I was going to say that you would be better off to paint a part to check match rather than matching to a plastic cap-