Anyone ever hear of a Keaton boat? |
Post Reply | Page 12> |
Author | |
MrMcD
Grand Poobah Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3754 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Posted: October-08-2020 at 2:43am |
Here is a nice 1965 Keaton Utility, powered by a 348 Chevy. Just an FYI for the curious, I saw it on CL tonight.
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/d/sacramento-price-reduction-ski-boat/7209727967.html
|
|
MourningWood
Gold Member Joined: June-13-2014 Location: NorCal Status: Offline Points: 917 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Dave Doidge
|
|
1964 Dunphy X-55 "One 'N Dun"
'I measured twice, cut three times, and it's still too short!" |
|
bkhallpass
Grand Poobah Joined: March-29-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4723 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
John Jolley? BKH
|
|
Livin' the Dream
|
|
smithwn
Newbie Joined: September-29-2020 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
OK, found the jet boat article. How do I insert a .pdf file here?
Still looking for the one on the prop boat.
|
|
67 ski nat
Platinum Member Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1194 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Thanks for great info ‘75’ and MrMcd, It seems the late 70’s early 80’s is model shape I prefer
The one for sale is 65 ? Looks a little more dated. But I like the 460. Holy cow Take a close up look at lower rear transom it has a bizarre cut out |
|
MrMcD
Grand Poobah Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3754 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
The photo Adam posted is on old Keaton Utility, not sure what years they were produced, those are the boats sold without an engine and the owners powered them any way they wanted.
In 75 Tique's photos the upper photo is the newer Keaton, not sure what Jack called it but those first came out around 1982 and all I know of came equipped with the Chevy 350 for power. The Lower photo in 75 Tiques post is the 18' Jet, Came out somewhere close to 1975 I think, my brothers is a 1978 and Jack told him his boat is a little faster than the newer year models because his Mold was still straight and made a faster bottom, Jack said as the mold got more and more use it sagged a little and the bottom shape changed slightly, those boats gave up a mile or two per hour top speed according to Jack back then. The early Keaton Jets used a 455 Olds, 390 HP, newer boats used the 460 Ford standard or the 454 Chevy was an option. I have never driven the Utility or the Keaton Skier but have many fun hours piloting the Keaton Jet.
|
|
75 Tique
Grand Poobah Joined: August-12-2004 Location: Seven Lakes, NC Status: Offline Points: 6130 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
83. I have no knowledge of or connection to that boat. Just a random pic off of google images. |
|
_____________
“So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
|
67 ski nat
Platinum Member Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1194 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
What year is the first picture 75 tique posted
|
|
67 ski nat
Platinum Member Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1194 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I’m gonna try and look at it
The tail on the for sale pictures has a different tail section has a concave at lower |
|
adamt
Gold Member Joined: July-18-2007 Location: Orlando, FL Status: Offline Points: 927 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Here's a 1965 for sale in CA @ $3800
https://www.shoppok.com/sacramento/a,29,145443,1965-Keaton-ski-boat----3800--Oroville-.htm |
|
-Adam
1973 Skier |
|
MrMcD
Grand Poobah Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3754 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I have not seen the magazine since it first came out but I remember one quote from Powerboat as they tested the 18' Jet Keaton. " When you floor this boat you think you are driving a Top Fuel Dragster, the acceleration is amazing " It has been 40 years but I bet that quote is very close to exact in the article.
|
|
smithwn
Newbie Joined: September-29-2020 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I’m pretty sure I have the Powerboat Magazine reviews of both the barefoot and jet boats. Jack handed them out to me when I first met him in 1984. I’ll try and find them and scan copies to this thread for others to enjoy.
|
|
MrMcD
Grand Poobah Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3754 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
The Keaton Inboard Ski Boat shown above was built in the 80's. There was a competition barefooter in Sacramento at the time that asked Jack for a faster Ski Boat for his barefooting. Jack had the Keaton Utility that he built in the 60's mold, he updated it and used a Chevy 350 in the new Ski boat like the one pictured above. The beach we skied at in the early 80's had 2 of these Keatons on it almost every weekend. I raced them both in my 78 Nautique with the modified 351W, I know these guys had 55 MPH top speed, I was just a hair short of that. When we launched and drove to our beach at that time there was about a 4 mile straight with great ski water and pretty much zero traffic because it has many shallows that you had to know to avoid hurting your boat. In that very long straight I raced them for most of it. Out of the hole I could pull a good boat length or more and then we were even up to almost wide open, then those dang boats would slowly start to pull away with a bone stock Chevy 350. Jack Keaton told me he liked his boats to be fast and he varied the prop angle to help his top speed. They ran a 12 x 15 3 blade stock. Jacks boats had less drag but were more prone to be pulled around by a hard skier than the Nautique was. My brother still has a Keaton Jet in his garage, 460 powered and bone stock it is a rocket ship. Jack certainly has a legacy in Sacramento, I am pleased he is known in the larger markets also. A buddy of mine built all of Jacks trailers in the late 70's and 80's, he was a fireman by trade which gave him several days off each week to help Jack. Jack's trailers were a work of art also. He built many other boat designs over the years and started out with Race boats. In the early days the Keaton Utility which resembled an early Ski Nautique was built and sold without the engine, I have seen a 312 Ford, Cadillac engines, Chrysler 318, 383 and 440's, Chevy 348 and 409's in those boats, a guy down the street from me had one with a 400 Pontiac in it that was Fuel Injected, pretty sure it was a 389 initially.
Jack also used a skag on the bottom of his Jet Pumps, a Berkeley J pump on his Jet boats which made them ski really well. My brother bought his first Jet from Jack in 1978 so I skied a ton behind that boat before buying my 1978 Nautique in 1982.
|
|
67 ski nat
Platinum Member Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1194 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Hey mourning wood
The Keaton I saw was in Sebastopol So cool to hear your history in NorCal |
|
67 ski nat
Platinum Member Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1194 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Yes. I was in a gas station and saw very cool inboard very classy all white beauty
Owner said it was a Keaton Told him one of best boats I’ve seen |
|
smithwn
Newbie Joined: September-29-2020 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Oh, I’m in Summerfield NC just outside Greensboro. Sorry didn’t see that first time.
|
|
MourningWood
Gold Member Joined: June-13-2014 Location: NorCal Status: Offline Points: 917 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
A friend of mine was a Nautique rep on the West coast for years in the early 80's on up into at least the late 90's. Taught me how to run the course behind his '83 promo 2001.
Before Nautique his boat of choice...Keaton. They have great lines, very sporty looking, much like the Besotes of the same era. Another NorCal boat.
|
|
1964 Dunphy X-55 "One 'N Dun"
'I measured twice, cut three times, and it's still too short!" |
|
smithwn
Newbie Joined: September-29-2020 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
My boat appears to be an exact match to the jet boat, colors and all. Nice!
|
|
75 Tique
Grand Poobah Joined: August-12-2004 Location: Seven Lakes, NC Status: Offline Points: 6130 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Keaton made a nice looking direct drive inboard.
When looking at the pictures when this thread first came up, (I hadnt heard of them before that) I didnt pay much attention to the jets. Also good looking boats. Your's look something like this? Where in NC are you? |
|
_____________
“So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
|
smithwn
Newbie Joined: September-29-2020 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Met Jack in 1983 and he subsequently built a modified V jet boat for my wife and I in 1984. Back then it was a $500 up charge for the 454 so we went with the more torque Ford 460 option.
I can verify the man was a legend among the water skiing crowd in the Sacramento area ( I grew up in FL skiing 250 days/yr+ from 1971-1973, and continued heavy recreational skiing once I relocated to CA and purchased from Jack). Everyone wanted one of his boats, but he was a funny guy, he really chose his customers. In other words if he didn't like you he didn't sell to you. I'll never forget that about him. While not as good as a typical prop ski boat I grew up with in FL, the jet was just fine for recreational skiing and provided loads of barefoot fun.You could easily deep water start 3 barefoot skiers with all that hp and tq (I did it) and the thing would go well into the mid 60's top end. The hole shot was something in of itself, 0-35mph in 3 sec flat. 50mph in 5 sec. I still have my Keaton but at 65 I'm not gonna do much skiing going forward. I plan to gift the boat to my son an son in law in the next few weeks who've promised to care for and enjoy that Keaton classic during the coming decades here in NC.
|
|
MrMcD
Grand Poobah Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3754 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Jack Keaton was a class act. He passed a couple years back, I went to his funeral. Met him a few times, my brother owned a Keaton for many years. Jack was very active keeping his flock of customers happy.
A small mostly one man shop but Jack built very high quality boats. May he rest in peace. Look at the Keaton website. When Jack switched to making jet boats he won Powerboat of the year honors I the 70's. Not bad for a small shop hidden in Sacramento. I don't think Jack ever made more than one boat per month. Jacks jet is the best jet ever built for water ski use. In the 80's as tournament boats really took off Jack designed a barefoot inboard with a 350 GM that had top speed of 55mph. Jack built what people needed and made his boats very well. Great man, wish he was still with us. |
|
Air206
Grand Poobah Joined: September-28-2008 Location: Roanoke, VA Status: Offline Points: 3000 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Crazy coincidence this weekend, the fellow restoring the AT Skier's wheel, just finished a Keaton wheel. He was saying how he had only seen one before and that was over 20 years ago.
|
|
75 Tique
Grand Poobah Joined: August-12-2004 Location: Seven Lakes, NC Status: Offline Points: 6130 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Picture of a Keaton I stumbled across today.
|
|
_____________
“So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
|
bkhallpass
Grand Poobah Joined: March-29-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4723 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Link does not seem to work. I'd be interested to read.
BKH |
|
Livin' the Dream
|
|
Riley
Grand Poobah Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7954 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
storm34
Grand Poobah Joined: November-03-2008 Location: Dexter Iowa Status: Offline Points: 4493 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
besotesboatclub
Newbie Joined: October-29-2009 Location: Stockton ca Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
The attached is from Joe Balco a great water skier in his day.
His son Drake took this info about his Father and Keaton boats. http://www.keatonboat.com/Joe_Balcao.htm |
|
Besotes Boat Club
|
|
GlassSeeker
Grand Poobah Joined: November-26-2008 Location: Elk Grove, CA. Status: Offline Points: 2421 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
It's a West Coast/ Calif thing...kinda like Sanger. That history is very interesting...in 1995 they built 1 20 ft Tournament/ Barefoot boat which did not get much attention and was dropped, the whereabouts of that boat is unknown. I found it interesting that Sanger was not mentioned throughout the history and they had to have competed against each other for business. Sanger started in 1954 and is still relevant today.
|
|
This is the life
|
|
eric lavine
Grand Poobah Joined: August-13-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13413 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
maybe thats where i got the latest 460 from it was rigged to a jet drive and the waterpump (circ) was replaced by a flat plate that read Harman performance.
nice looking hull that guy built, it has a touch of Euro looks |
|
"the things you own will start to own you"
|
|
Riley
Grand Poobah Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7954 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
That's the site where I got the pics. His early boats had Interceptor 312's in them. Gorgeous boats, especially from the stern. I'm surprised they weren't more well known.
|
|
Post Reply | Page 12> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |