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    Posted: March-05-2010 at 4:29pm
Chris,
When in Syracuse (Wawasee) I generally stay with friends from College. Several of my friend's families have lake houses on Wawasee.

David,
Getting to Chicago isn't bad its the drive home after having the beers.
I learnt to ski on Morse as well. My Uncle had a house on Morse when I was growing up and I had a condo until last year when the lease was up.

Now I live in Zionsville and have a slip at the Morse Marina. That way I can stop at Wolfie's for a cold one after a day on the lake.

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Originally posted by robertbruder robertbruder wrote:

David,

Thanks! I'm excited about the new boat, and thanks for the invite. I live in Indianapolis and am usually at the Indiana Lakes. (Geist Reservoir, Morse Reservoir, Lake Maxincuckee, Lake Manitou, Lake Hamilton, Lake Wawasee).

Anyone else ever around those lakes?


Robert...I guess Indy is a bit of a haul to have beers in Chicago. I didn't know if you lived up north. I grew up in Fishers, and still have family, there, and all over Indy. I learned to ski on Morse waaayyy back in the day, as well as put many hours in out at Geist. I went to HSEHS which is very near Geist.    

Where abouts in Indy do you live?
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do you have friends in syracuse that you stay with or rent something?
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Memorial is usually Lake Wawasee for Friday and Saturday then Lake Hamilton for Sunday and Monday.

I'm always up for a beer.
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well you better go to Angola and lake James to see it or you can stop over at the barn and kick back some coldies on the '80 i have if you want.

If your out Memorial week-end look for a 380 Nortech rafted up with some Sea-ray's, couple Fourwinds, a Powerplay and a couple Baja's, one old boy usually brings his Formula as well
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Pete,

Thanks for the link info. Now I know how to add it to my signature!


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I've been meaning to make it down to Monroe. Mississinawa is great. I used to go to camp on Tippy! I'll keep an eye out for that '79 Nautique.
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you need to check out Monroe in Bloomington, about an hours drive from Indy and the largest reservoir in the state, we are always there memorial week-end to kick off the season.

Wawasee is good, Tippy is another good spot, we also hit mississinawa and salmonie
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Originally posted by robertbruder robertbruder wrote:

Here's the new Diary Page.
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5046


Rob,
Just so you know, you can mouse over anyones avitar picture and clicking on it will link to their diary.

Also providing a link here on the CCfan site is somewhat more complicated than other sites. You need to first go to "post reply". Clicking on the world icon will bring up the decription you want on the link. Clicking ok brings up the second box. This is where you paste in the address.

here's your link to your diary


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David,

Thanks! I'm excited about the new boat, and thanks for the invite. I live in Indianapolis and am usually at the Indiana Lakes. (Geist Reservoir, Morse Reservoir, Lake Maxincuckee, Lake Manitou, Lake Hamilton, Lake Wawasee).

Anyone else ever around those lakes?
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Robert....Congrats on the Martinique. You will like it for its roominess and smooth ride. However, you better stock up on teak oil. Lots of teak in that boat. I had an '87 Martinique that had a 351. It was a good family hauler in the rough waters.

By the way, where in Indiana you from? What lake will you use the boat on? If you are near Chicago, come out for beers on the 10th (see Chicago Beers post in Off Topic section).

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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

   Post some pics of the new boat.


Here's the new Diary Page.

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I want not go with anything else in a boat than a Ford motor.. I think there a better and more effecient motor than the Chevy's..
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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I just asked because the newer, PCM Excalibur 330 Chevy powered Nautiques are way, way out of my price range still. I've heard that the Ford 351s are very robust though and if parts are still really easy, that's great


Bri,

The Ford 351 was pretty much the standard motor up until the '90's. Both my Ski Supreme and Martinique both have the marinized Ford 351 with 230 hp. Plenty of power to tow one person. The other option at the time was a Chevy 454 with 330hp. This was an available option for several of the Correct Crafts at the time but was most often found in the Barefoot Nautiques and the Martiniques.

Try www.skidim.com to find parts for your 80's Nautiques.
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There will most likely be another BFN in my future. I'll have to see how the Martinique works out for me. Maybe sell the Ski Supreme and use that towards a BFN. Or sell both and get a Super Sport or Super Air. Who knows.

Unfortunately I can't afford to have one of every model.

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:


We've got all the parts- just need the time to work on it.



This is the exact reason I was willing to let the BFN go for now. The Martinique and Ski Supreme are water ready.

Keep me updated on the progress of the boats. Hopefully they will be done by the next CCF Reunion
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Cool. There is still a 87-88 BFN in my future... someday!

No progress on the Skier yet. Its still a shell up on blocks. Paint gets stripped this spring, along with new stringers and floor. We've got all the parts- just need the time to work on it.

The '79 BFN is in the garage and just about ready to accept the new structure. The material is in so hopefully we'll get it wrapped up by spring.
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Allison is approving the Diary for the Martinique now. I'll let you know when it is up.

I ended up selling the BFN for what I had into it. There was a lot of interest in the BFN project boat. It sold the day after I picked up the Martinique.

How's the '71 Skier project coming along?
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Originally posted by robertbruder robertbruder wrote:


I finally got my new boat! I went with a Martinique, Ford 351. Couldn't beat the price. It meets all of my requirements, Correct Craft, Open Bow, Ford Motor. Life is good.     

My friend has a Sport Nautique, so once it warms up I should be able to have a good comparison between the Marinique's and the Sport Nautiques.

Sweet- congrats! Post some pics of the new boat.

What did you end up doing with the BFN?
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Pete,

I am not a Ford employee, I just come from a Ford family. My grandfather was a mechanic and my Dad is an engineer in the automotive/marine industry. Everyone in my family has always owned Ford vehicles.

My first car was a 1968 Mustang and most of my inboards have been the Ford 351's. So I am very familiar with that particular motor.

As for the truck, none of the Big 3 quiet make 'em like they used to. Cars and trucks have come to be almost disposable items.

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Originally posted by robertbruder robertbruder wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:



You could also dump the F150 and get a matching Chev P/U!!


Those words make me cringe!


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Are you a empolyee of Ford or one of it's suppliers?

We're stamping all of the Ford pickup frame parts for the 1/2, 3/4 and 1 ton chassis for Tower automotive. Are you sure your Ford frame is good? I'd take a look under that pickup one of these days!! I cringe too!


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You could also dump the F150 and get a matching Chev P/U!!


Those words make me cringe!

I finally got my new boat! I went with a Martinique, Ford 351. Couldn't beat the price. It meets all of my requirements, Correct Craft, Open Bow, Ford Motor. Life is good.     

My friend has a Sport Nautique, so once it warms up I should be able to have a good comparison between the Marinique's and the Sport Nautiques.
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If you are just recreational wakeboarders and like to do some skiing, nothing hardcore, I would consider a mid to late 90's Air Nautique. You get DDrive, tower, no wood stringers, and you should be able to pick up a nice one for a decent price. Personally, we do a lot of skiing, so the 95 open bow fit the family perfect after we outgrew the 82SN. The way the 95 is built, I can see it lasting for a longtime! Wait, it already has!
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Thanks for your reply. I just asked because the newer, PCM Excalibur 330 Chevy powered Nautiques are way, way out of my price range still. I've heard that the Ford 351s are very robust though and if parts are still really easy, that's great
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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

Do you guys consider it any kind of problem to buy a boat with a Ford engine considering they stopped marinizing them?

Would a good condition Ford powered boat with low hours be just as good as a Chevy powered one? I'm just thinking in terms of maintenance down the road.


Your concern is maintenance? Parts? Take a look at how many say pre 90 boats are here on CCfan - Both Chev and Ford. Doesn't seem to be a problem keeping them running compared to the newer ones. Infact, the newer ones sometimes seem to have even more issues. Plus, forget about doing anything to them yourself unless you go out and get hundreds in diagnostic equipment.

Engine age sometimes plays into getting parts but I'm talking about real old. So far, no problems for my 77, 64 and 54 but yes, my 1927 some parts can be a problem.


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Originally posted by Air206 Air206 wrote:



Nope, The Ford motors are no longer available for marinization....


That settles it. I have to look for a Super Sport with a Ford now.


You could also dump the F150 and get a matching Chev P/U!!


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Do you guys consider it any kind of problem to buy a boat with a Ford engine considering they stopped marinizing them?

Would a good condition Ford powered boat with low hours be just as good as a Chevy powered one? I'm just thinking in terms of maintenance down the road. I think power wise, I'd be fine with either for my purposes.
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Nope, The Ford motors are no longer available for marinization....


That settles it. I have to look for a Super Sport with a Ford now... Wish me luck...
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Do the newer Nautiques still use Ford motors?


Nope, The Ford motors are no longer available for marinization.... changed happened several years ago (look in the brochure sections for powerplant options - 2003 Nautiques) Not sure exactly when the change happened b/c many Fords were in the PCM pipeline when Ford pulled out. Many boats still came with them after Chevy became the engine provider.

BTW - I LOVE my Chevy 6 liter in the Air!! Never thought I would go for a closed-cooled engine but it is soooo convenient for us.
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Originally posted by Air206 Air206 wrote:

Robert:

I have been keeping my eye out for a 94-95 Super Sport as a boat for my kids (and sister-in-law who lives down the lake). They are few and far between..... but the hunt is what is the fun........ buying just makes you work!

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Thats exactly why I am starting my hunt now! Should have my truck (Ford F-150) paid off by spring. So between that and selling the BFN and Supreme maybe I could convince the bank to give me a loan and move straight into a SAN!

Do the newer Nautiques still use Ford motors?
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Yup... you are right. We had an Excel and we watched that morph into the Super Sport. Kinda remembered 94-95 was the transition; makes sense. We loved our Excel.... but I was encouraging the years without fir stringers for Robert. Be it Excel or Super Sport..... fine, comfy boats but not slalom machines.
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Steve, Just and FYI. I believe 95 was the first year for Super Sports.

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