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8122pbrainard
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Thank's for your input. It's always a pleasure to hear from fellow wood (or classic) boat owner who are so well educated especially when it comes down to the ACBS judging guidelines. I however, do need to ask when you saw my X55 ether in person or pictures? I did have it at GL several years ago. FYI, my X55 has won a couple best of class's in ACBS judged shows. I'm curious about your opinion about mine. BTW, one thing I did not mention and since you seem to be such an expert, did you happen to notice the stain Mitch used does not have enough red in it? Look at the original Dunphy brochures. It may just be my monitor however, you seem to be an expert so tell me. |
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AZ64-X55
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Yes Good thing we are not Judging Pete!
However that is not my boat, But if it was I would be Happy Happy! Even with the bottom paint He Painted it with. I think the boat looks great!! EVEN BETTER THAN YOURS!! But than again I am not judging! |
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8122pbrainard
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Congratulations on the award. It looks like you didn't take my advice on the bottom paint.
That show wasn't ACBS judged so they overlooked the bottom paint being wrong. WHY didn't you go with the copper bronze???? If I was judging, I would have knocked off a couple points especially since you asked what bottom paint should be on your X55 and didn't follow through. The Pettit is an acceptable substitute with a no point deduction. |
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MitchS
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Thx NY Nautique- I'll google that.
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MitchS
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Thanks Riley for the information. I'll try the Dexron III.
Mitch |
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ny_nautique
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Mitch, there are several old threads on the Dearbormatic that you may want to read. Do a Google search on "correctcraftfan.com dearbormatic" and you will find them.
Very nice looking! |
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Riley
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Nice looking Dunphe Mitch! We have 2 model C's in boats and run Dextron III in both of them. Eric Levine on this site rebuilt one of ours, but I don't believe he rebuilds trannys anymore. I had talked to the Hilpisch's and they were not interested in rebuilding them for other people. I have since met a guy in South Portland Maine that rebuilds them. We're going to have our other one rebuilt if we can ever find time to pull it from the boat. It works well, but has a dirty neutral. As long as they don't need hard parts, they can be rebuilt.
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MitchS
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I figured out how to upload a picture. Here's a photo of my award winning X55 here in Reno Nevada- her name is "Sixty Four"
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MitchS
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Art,
do you have any knowledge of the Dearbomatic model "C" transmission? I'm having issues getrting a good read on the right fluid to put in it. the interceptor manual says put type "A" hydraulic transmission fluid in it. |
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MitchS
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I am afraid I do have the Dearbomatic. It worked great with the trans oil that came with it, until I changed the fluid and put ATF in it. With ATF it ran fine on the lake for awhile, then after it got warm it started slipping. If I turned it off for awhile on the lake, it would go again, but slowly.
It is the "C" model in the yellow interceptor manual and has its own oil pump internal. I got hold of the Hilpisch father and son and they mentioned it should have 30 weight in it or 15W40. When I put 15W40 in there it immediately turns even while in neutral. Once it warms up it begins to act more normally and while running on trailer I can get it to stop in neutral and do both forward and reverse- but not consistently. Steve Sr. mentioned I should have at least 100 psi to get forward and reverse and I checked it and I have 120 psi, so that's not a problem. Interesting thing about the tranny is when it does engage it makes a bit of a whining / low growling sound- that's how I can tell it is engaging and turning normally. I would like to keep my Dearbomatic and wonder if I can pull it and work on it myself- I am pretty good mechanically if I can get some insight on what I need to fix. I would post a picture of it, but can't figure out how to do that just yet- BTW, the Dunphy X55 it sits in just won 2nd place in Class at the South Lake Tahoe Classic show end of July- I'd like to post a picture of that, too if I can figure that out. |
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Gary S
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He's on a fixed income now Bruce and dipping into the parts retirement fund
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8122pbrainard
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Correct. It has it's own pump built in. |
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ArtCozier
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I think I remember that now. I'll pull it out of storage and try to spin it on the bench and see whether it works. That's how I test all the units that I rebuild. The C is the one that is not integral with the bellhousing, right?
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Riley
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I was almost begging you to part with one a few years ago and I couldn't talk you into it. Do you have a good working model C? I'd be interested in buying it.
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ArtCozier
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Did someone say "I like Dearbos"? I have a couple of them and I'd rather have dollars than these trans.
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Riley
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I've grown to like the Dearbos. No doubt they won't last forever as hard parts are very difficult to find, but if you have one that works well, I don't see the need to be in a hurry to get rid of it. The Hilpshe's love them and according to Steve, if people had only changed their fluid once in a while, there'd be a lot more of them still around.
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Stay tuned for the rest of the story Bruce.You will have a failure with that C model, the smaller cubes were not as bad, but they all failed....They were built from a few custom parts and a lot of Ford-o-Matic parts, use what you have in stock...
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Riley
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What's the matter with the Dearbo? The Dearbo C's work great, weigh half as much as a Velvet Drive and were made by Interceptor.
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8122pbrainard
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Mitch,
Sorry I missed this post but we have been emailing each other. I sent you an email this morning about the repairs you are making. BTW, the engine is a 312 and not the 292. Hopefully you do not have the Dearbomatic trans and your X came through with the Velvet Drive. The switch was about mid 64. |
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MitchS
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Hey I noticed this post from the past.
Not sure if you are still into Dunphy X-55s, but I just got a 1964 Dunphy X-55 from California. I has been a California boat since the 60s as far as I know- around the bay area (Novato area). I now have it in Reno, Nevada and plan to run it this summer on Lake Tahoe. It has the 292 interceptor and most of the hardware looks original. I do think the vents need re-chroming or replacing- missing the bottom piece on one of them. On the sides, the mahogoany ply laminate on the plywood has mostly come off- so I scraped the rest off and am refinishing it with mahogany ply (7mm)and will stain and spar varnish it in a natural finish (both sides and stern), then original vinyl top sides, seats and interior panels . If you have any ideas or pictures I would greatly approciate it- especially of the rear seat since it was totally missing when I got it. It has the green line Stewart Warner gauges, but I am looking for a speedometer that matches the rest of the gauges. I would like to restore it as original as possible. The engine runs great- I just cleaned up the y side carbs and got it running pretty well. I got a rebuild kit for these and hope it will be a solid runner for sure then. The trailer looks original to the boat- made by Cal Trailers and has much surface rust but i'll sand and paint and should be fine. |
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8122pbrainard
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Russ???
Did you get the pictures or not?? I di d get your email but if you can't open them and respond, I can't help!! Sorry. |
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8122pbrainard
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Russ,
I found you email address! Doubly now!! I just sent you the two zip files again. How about emailing me some more pictures? |
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8122pbrainard
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Russ,
The reason I need you to email me here at home is because I didn't save your address!! |
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8122pbrainard
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Russ,
It's not supposed to have fiberglass on the bottom!!!! It's truly "the kiss of death" for a wood boat. Someone at one time did a "half ass" on the bottom. Yes, it won't stick and all will eventually come off. It also holds water so the bottom will rot FAST!! With the hull to frame fastening failing, it flexes at joints. A layer of glass won't hold it together. Since you're flipping the hull, I suggest new ply. Removing it may also uncover some hidden surprises with the frame. My inner keel was mush under the engine. White Oak for any frame repair. Email my home address and I'll try to send you the zipped files again. If you still can't open them, I'll start sending the pictures individually. |
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AZ64-X55
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Pete, no I have not been able to open any pics you sent me!
I have a velvet drive in mine. and it is red? the for sale add said it was rebuilt. not sure why it is red, I thought it was the wrong drive but not sure?? I have replaced the sheer on the boat the last too weekends, just about time to turn it over and go over the bottom, all looks good from inside but there is some fiberglass that is not bonded to the plywood! In the box of parts there was the logos( 1 broke) the hole in ones, the front light, rear light base (need the light pole!)and the step plates with the dunphy steplogo.(they might make good forms to make new ones. |
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8122pbrainard
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I've got one of the "odd" ones that doesn't seem to indicate a year!!
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8122pbrainard
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Seth, Whoever told you this is not the person to be talking to concerning a X55!!! I suggest you stay away from him if you want a correct and true restoration. A 63 should have a solid color vinyl deck rather that the split two tone. Unless someone did a trans swap, you should have the Dearbomatic trans if it is a 63. Does your engine/trans run? Condition of the hull? Craig (64X55) compounded some serial/hull numbers at one time and found some numbering inconsistencies but most likely the 63 in yours is indicating the year. You can also check the year of the engine. The numbers on the front next to the mechanical tach output. I have the numbering code if you need any help. The X was built in 1963, 64 and 65 when Dunphy again went bankrupt. The bankruptcy is felt to be from them warranting there bottoms. The first batch of Philippine Mahogany they were using was bad. The wood used to make the ply had a fungus in it that caused the veneers to delaminate. They took lots of the boats back and put new bottoms on them. Mine didn't go back to the factory but I did end up having to put a new bottom on it back in the early 80's. Russ, Glad to hear you found some of the parts! What trans is in yours? It was sometime in late 64 when the X's started coming through with Velvet drives direct from the factory. The Dearbo's were having a hard time with the 312's. Fine on the smaller engines though. Mine has the Velvet. Were you ever able to open that file of pictures I sent to you? If not, I could start sending them individually!! Also, Did I send you one or two files? I think it was just the file on the dog house. I've got another one with even more pictures. Email me direct to home at hideed41@att.net |
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I also have 1 good one that came in the box of missing parts.
Craig is in need of them also. What point of restoring are you at? |
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I to am restoring a 64' X 55? so I am told the actual serial number is a 63- # but I am told there is no such thing as a 63? It is also missing the dunphy logos from the sides. I have all the other chrome. However, I am working on having some cast and then plated. I have one I can use for the casting. Part of the cost is the molds etc. Maybe we could get together and help lower the cost.
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I just got a call from the previous owner. HE FOUND A BOX OF DUNPHY PARTS!!! THE LIST JUST GOT SMALLER!!
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