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Buttersmooth
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Donald thanks for the info guess I should've looked a little harder . My wife calls it male blindness. Hey BKH that orange one does look pretty cool. Nicely done it appears and still staying true to it's roots. Alan, I sent you an email and thanks again.
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Bama Nautique
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Thanks 8122. I will spend some time researching it all tonight. |
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bkhallpass
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Orange 81
I really like this orange one. Anything but original. I thought it looked modern, classic, classy, all at the same time. From the pictures it looked like the work was high quality which always helps as well. Of course Alan's blue 81 is similar but not quite as radical departure from original colors. BKH |
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krauler
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Hey Alan, I sent you an email earlier regarding the graphic files. Do you mind forwarding me a copy also? raulersonk@msn.com Thanks |
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81nautique
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No problem, your email is private so send me an emailand I'll reply with the attached photos and lettering files. |
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Donald80SN
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Butter,
My correct craft parts.com is a site sponser. Also Race City Marine in Mooresville,NC. Also, www.skidim.com is another one. Donald |
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Buttersmooth
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Thanks for the info Alan. I spoke with a graphics designer yesterday and it sounds like what I'm trying to accomplish is very doable. I'd be happy to share any design work that would be helpful so I'll keep you posted as to how it goes. Can you tell me where I might be able to find PCM engine parts such as belts, hoses, gaskets etc? Also I don't know if it's a lot of trouble but if it's not too much would you be able to send me some pics of the starboard, port and stern of you boat? This would be helpful for my design guy. Thanks everyone for your help. Your probably going to get really tired of me before this is all completed.
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quinner
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Thinking of using a different species,
Stimulated Wood, also known as Mahoginher. |
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8122pbrainard
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Al, Elite Craft - plenty of simulated wood I've only seen one of them. It was nice but still just sort of like the rest of the reproductions. Actually, I think simulated wood may be CQ's problem too!! |
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DrCC
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Yes! I would love to see an '05 Air 206 in simulated Mahogany!
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quinner
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I would wrap the entire boat to match the dash panel and turn it into a Woody, heck I just got one thinking about it!
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8122pbrainard
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Doug,
There are several threads on it from people who felt the same and really didn't want to start cutting. They typically mount the main unit off brackets so it's just under the bottom of the dash or inside the glove box. Then use auxiliary speaker boxes mounted just under the gunwale or on the floor. I'll see what comes up with a search. EDIT: I just used "speaker box" for the search key words. Lots comes up. |
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Bama Nautique
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Pete,
I am with you 110% on keeping it original. I have an 89 SN 2001 and am struggling with putting a sound system in it. I know it would require some cutting and was wondering what you ideas were on this.? I just had boat wet sanded and am waiting on a set of original 89 decals to put back on. Will post pick when completed. Thanks |
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DrCC
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Bsmooth, One more thought.
Paint may be a lot easier than trying to center and apply properly, a full length vinyl graphic. AT |
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adiocassette
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i personally use my boat for wakeskating. the wake behind an older nautique is perfect. but not all wakeboarders or wakeskaters wanna throw on a big tower, add lots of weight and put in big speakers. But its THEIR boat. if everyone was on this site asking how to "restore" a boat for re sale value i'd understand the comments. But if someone wants to paint their boat bright pink, it doesnt bother me, whatever makes them happy when they have the boat out on the water.
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Hawktique
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Pete,
I'm by no way offended, or up in arms over it. I was only trying to highlight the feelings of brand new members. They aren't yet up to speed with the CCF community, and the common jabs some of us give with no harmful intentions. I only mentioned something because the same thing happened very recently where the new member took everything as it was written, not knowing the way some are, and swore to never return. |
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8122pbrainard
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Josh and Ryan,
Even though I used the emoticons, I really feel you've taken my comments out of context. I don't feel my pushing originality is harming this site at all. The majoriy here are "original" people and this thread is a perfect example of that. It may be of interest to you that the wood boat groups aren't the only ones that push originality. Currently the ACBS considers ANY boat up to and including 1976 years a "classic" and judged accordingly. The Fiberglassics group is also big on originality. Regarding my recommending other sites, that's truthfull as well. You'll see more customization of boats on other sites. |
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Bremsen
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x2 I like ya Pete and you are one of the most helpful and knowledgeable members (on both sites), but I also think you take the 'keep it original' thing a little too far sometimes. Particularly when telling members to go elsewhere. I can understand it with the rare and truly special classic boats on this site, but not all CCs need to be "restored". I know I can rest easy knowing Morfoot's boat is around -Ryan |
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81nautique
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Butter, Yes the graphics are on the site for the 80-81 but they are for the lettering only. The stripes have typically been hand masked and painted using the graphic files to create stencils for the lettering which are removed after paint is applied.
If you decide to go this route please email me for a more up to date set of files for the lettering. I need to send them to Keith to update the ones in the reference section but you are more than welcome to them. The nice thing with your project is that you haven't wetsanded the Ghosting off yet, following that ghosting is the easiest way to mask the new stripes perfectly in place. Best of luck to you, post pictures along the way. |
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Hawktique
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Pete,
Don't take this the wrong way, but why do you consistently tell people to join a different site. CCF, in no way, stands for "Original Boats Only". Some of your woody groups probably push the topic, and I understand that. Nobody should be rediculed on this site because of what they do to "their" boat. After a bit of discussion, this owner is going the better way, just as BK suggested. Keep the original look, but add a modern flare to it. I hope you think about it for a second and realize what you could actually be doing to this site with comments like that. -Josh |
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adiocassette
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i know right! that has everything to do with my opinion! |
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bkhallpass
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The graphics are in the reference section the site. I don't know if anyone has made them in vinyl, but I don't see why it could not be done.
From the factory, the graphics were paint in 81, not gel coat. Still kind of a pain to sand and remove, but not nearly as difficult as gel coat. BKH |
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behindpropeller
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Just paint it on. Once you put all of the work into it the last thing you will want to do is switch colors every year.
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Buttersmooth
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O.K. after sleeping on it and taking in everyones comments I agree with all of you in different ways. I think bk said it best "They created boats which looked modern yet timeless and which meet their own tastes". So after carefully considering the pros and cons I have decided to go with the original stripping with a classy modern flair nothing distaistful or goddy. Now I'm assuming that they can all be made in viynl decals correct? If so, that to me makes the most sense because color changes can be made in the future by simply removing the old ones and applying your new color of choice if desired. I know by running a wide colored stripe down the boats length this will be a permanant choice and would be a b%* to remove so decals sound appealing. I know the graphics are on this site, are they templets can you send them to a graghics artist and have them made in the color you'd like? Thanks for all the help guys.
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DrCC
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BK, I agree! Always hate to see it happen, especially wrong year graphics. Or even the proper year graphic just gone horribly wrong.
But, someone will eventually pay money for it. AT |
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8122pbrainard
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And the guy doesn't even fill in his profile!!! But does comment!! |
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bkhallpass
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I'm not a purist either. To go back to Butter's original thought, here are some of my specific thoughts.
Butter was thinking about painting or gelling a single stripe down the side. I've seen this done on quite a few boats. My initial thought is that someone was trying to make the boat look like a newer model than it really is. To me, they never achieve that result, and it looks no better than the guy who paints Ski Nautique down the side of a Mustang, or a Martinique. My second thought is that someone was trying to cover up damage to the side of the hull. Makes me wonder how much bondo or bad fiberglass work is being covered up, even if that's not the case. My third thought is that someone didn't want to take the time, or spend the money to lay down the more complex graphics that came on the 81 Ski Nautique. Makes me wonder if they cut corners on other parts of a rebuild such as poor stringer and floor job, auto parts on the motor, or poor quality materials in the upholstery. None of these items may be true, but that's what goes through my mind. On the other hand, Mark in Florida used the original graphics in lime green, and it looks great IMO. Another fellow used bright orange, and his boat looks fantastic. Even Alan's blue is not original, but as said, his boat has been a favorite choice at most of the CCF reunions. I know it's not original, but they weren't trying to create museum pieces or win an ACBS show. They created boats which look modern yet timeless and which meet their own tastes. BKH |
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DrCC
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81, Now that's funny!!! So much wrong, but still a beautiful boat.
Same way with mine, wrong rub rail, lettering and stripe colors etc... But still very easy to put back to original once that CC Museum opens up. AT |
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adiocassette
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agreed. make it your own.
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