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Eric has called you out............
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BuffaloBFN
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Now I'm in trouble!
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eric lavine
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Greg call me in 15 minutes on my cell on my way to work, 330-322-8817..
are you going with the 4 bolt caps, maybe im confused |
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BuffaloBFN
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Bearings are made for a turned crank...why not for turned bosses?
At some point I'll pull the engine to work on the hull. There's no telling what might happen with all those BB parts mixed together. |
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eric lavine
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what kind of guy would i be if a waited until after you had it line bored lol
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eric lavine
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let me know how the gear to gear cam set works after you line bore that block and move the crank gear closer to the cam gear, always excited when someone tries something new
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BuffaloBFN
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Thanks Jody. I have a set of 4-bolt caps from the frozen block I replaced. Like Gary said though, it'll have to be line bored after the drill and tap.
I did see where main studs really beef up a 2-bolt on some Chevy forums; do you agree? I loaned out my picker so I don't have the machinist's opinion yet. Hopefully it's in as good of shape as I think it is. I'll give you a call when I see what's in the mail. I wonder if the machine shop can clean it up...I hate to be upsetting newbies. |
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Fl Inboards
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
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Luchog
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Fl Inboards
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http://www.prwonlinestore.com/billetsteelmainbearingcaps5.aspx
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-17541.html http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/bbc-2-4-bolt-main-conversion-171608.html?s=2c03e582b8b926313300fa6971cc00bf Greg, Here are some links on four bolt caps and where to get them. Sorry did not hyper link them pain in the a$$ copy past works well. Your stuff is in the mail, Also did I tell ya I have a new complete PCM remote oil filter setup for that motor? Cheap! |
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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8122pbrainard
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There are 27 posts in this thread. What are you referring to that's dirty? |
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rightnwrong
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What is that? It looks like dirt.
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eric lavine
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Luch, and its 120 degrees down there!!!!!!
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eric lavine
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btw, dont waste your hard earned money
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eric lavine
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Greg, same persona out there as you gotta have a Ford 9" in the ass end, these guy's putt around in there 50k fresh built hot rods and putt back and forth to the car shows, never ever smoking the tires off. im putting a 37 ford panel truck together for my uncle and he wants a 9" in the ass....he showed up with a flathead v-8, talked him out of that, got him a Mustang 2 front end, obviously i asked what he was going to do with this thing and he said drive it around...
needless to say because i have one laying around, a 10 bolt chevy is going under it, one of the younger guys at the shop keeps putting the bug in his head about the ford 9" only because he runs a 88 trans am with a Ford 9", the kid built up a small block Chevy and seems to think he has 500 hp.......well i made him a bet, when he is all done i told him we will take it down to the dyno and if he has more than 300 at the rear wheels I'll give him 500 bucks...not even worried |
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BuffaloBFN
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We're planning on it. Billy will kick my butt if we miss 2 in a row! After some reading, I think I'll go with main studs and sleep well at night. Splayed 4-bolts seem to be the way to go on SBC's, but there is an oil gallery on the starboard side of a 454 so the 3rd and 4th have to go straight in. I could use studs and a girdle...still seems like overkill for my application though. The general consensus on the hot rod forums is that 2 are fine for a naturally aspirated engine. |
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Gary S
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Hey Greg if your going to have machine work done check with your shop and see what they recommend.When you change caps you will need to have it align bored anyway.By the time you buy the drill and break off the tap you'll be way ahead. See you at the river run??? |
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Luchog
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around here, there were some issues bacause of oil pressure loss and many engines were blowing up back in the 70's, so it was common to add the oil cooler to the engines, probably due to oil quality by the time.
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BuffaloBFN
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I'm having a hard time picturing a block twisting, but I guess even continents move a little. I started reading some Chevy forums and the best line yet is "a 4-bolt is for guys who can't sleep at night". The summary so far is 2-bolts are fine to 6000-6500 and 500-600 HP.
I'm going to price the drill and tap or adding studs, but I'm not going to worry about it. |
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eric lavine
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its 50/50 on the boat 2 bolt 4 bolt, people at times think the 4 bolts is so the crank doesnt fly out the bottem, in reality it is for block twist which in a boat is not as prevelent as it would be in a low gear heavy loaded truck, Ive pulled many 370 horse blocks down (marine) and they were 2 bolt
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BuffaloBFN
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MAN - GA
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I think you need to get a blower and some NOS and then alot of insurance so when you pull someone's arms out of socket you can pay for the medical bills - good luck with the build-up and if you ever need any assistance give me a shout I am just down the road a little ways
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BuffaloBFN
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Thanks Joe, back at 'cha!
And Thanks Jody, I know I want the balancer. I'll give you a call maybe Monday? I probably won't get back to it until then. It's a 2-bolt. I'm still glad it followed me home though. All things considered, it's in great shape. Nothing is scored and everything has factory bearings. I still have the 4-bolt caps from the frozen block, and the inside holes line up with the '2-bolts'. I wonder if it's expensive to drill and tap the others or even if it's worth it. I've heard of 2-bolts turning well over 6k. |
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Fl Inboards
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Nice BBC find. The oil cooler is pretty common on GM trucks and utility vehicles. Both of my Suburbans and my Tahoe have them.
If you are interested I have the following for a BBC. Right hand camshaft, it was out of a HP motor built for SeaWorld. A new remote oil filter kit. And a Right hand balancer. I also have a big oval cast iron intake manifold that is not a spread bore but standard Holley 4BBL. Call me if you are interested. Jody |
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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JoeinNY
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Early interceptor marine engines sported oil coolers both as optional and standard features at different times, amongst others.. but I am guessing it was primarily a band aid to what were less efficient engine cooling systems. Ford has a similar bolt on filter extension/oil cooler outlet bracket for the windsor engines used in various fleet vehicles and police interceptors over the years, and a slightly better design for the modular engines used in similar applications. Is it part of the reason they typically run into the many hundred thousands of miles, dont know but they probably don't hurt. Either way I would deep six it...
Hope you and Amy have a great Thanksgiving.. |
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BuffaloBFN
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781's
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BuffaloBFN
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I'm going to tell Amy what you called her engine.
It was nasty...clearly been leaking oil for many miles. It's super clean on the inside though except for the valve covers. The assembly turns smoothly, the cylinders are nice with a minimal ridge... I wish I had a bore gauge. I think it's been apart once before. |
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eric lavine
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I failed to mention to you that I did buy a bad set of heads, and didnt want to pass them along....i didnt realize they came off a frozen turd and pulled the pipe plug and seen a crack around the valve guide..I'll keep my eyes open for another set.
what kinda heads on that mud ball? |
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BuffaloBFN
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Jody, if you see this, is the balancer you have a RH or LH?
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BuffaloBFN
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Sustained for more than 1 hour?
My cruise temp is ~165. It'll only see 180 after a WOT run. I found a cool set of heads under all that crud; now to see if it is a 2 or 4! |
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