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    Posted: May-10-2012 at 6:32pm
Originally posted by YooperSully YooperSully wrote:

Originally posted by akabulla akabulla wrote:

This should get you started. This was a sketch of the secondaries I found when building mine. My secondaries were already gone when I bought the boat so I used this rough sketch to build mine and they came out pretty nice.









This is from your 82? Thanks



This was from my 85. It will get you close but each of these boats are different. I would say use this but add 3/8" - 1/2" height and then scribe to fit your boat to get a good match.
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I can't say the primary is correct. I have only cut and shaped my secondaries so far, I'll do the primaries next week once the secondaries are glassed in. Once I have figured out all of my measurements I will repost the dimensions here.

The part you are in question of is just a 3/4 x 5 1/2" notch for the cross member under the rear hatch.
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Roger,
Is the main stringer the only one you have dimenisions for? Also a question about this one area.

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The numbers are hard to see, I know. Just use your zoom option in your web browser.
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Here's the pattern that I've come up with so far. If anything looks out of ordinary please comment.
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Any time that you are free and able I'd love to get the measurements. Any thing would be a start from where I'm at. Feel free to give me a call when you have the time. Shoot me an email. rogeresullivan@yahoo.com
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I know we did not hook up before, but I'm willing to help. Mine is an 82. Not sure how much they changed in 5years ont he stringers. I haven't done anything in a year, so the stringers are still exposed for
measurements. I won't be home until Friday. BKH
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Guys, I still need some help. My project is still in limbo. I'm still looking for some measurements on the main stringers on my 87. Can anyone help me out with some measurements to where the stringers change height? Even a little piece here or there would help. As a little reminder the P.O. had it rebuilt nothing close to original. So everything that I have to go off of is useless.
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Thanks Joey.
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I have every picture you would need here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11202092@N03/sets/72157612169227615/

but here are a few





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Originally posted by YooperSully YooperSully wrote:

Does anyone have any pictures of the floor area up front after foam is in, but before the ply is put down?

What do you mean by "up front"? In front of the motor or up under the bow?
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Does anyone have any pictures of the floor area up front after foam is in, but before the ply is put down?
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Yes but it should be pretty close to the same for yours. I put a Excalibur 330 in mine and used the same primary and secondaries stringers that were originally in the boat.
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Originally posted by akabulla akabulla wrote:

This should get you started. This was a sketch of the secondaries I found when building mine. My secondaries were already gone when I bought the boat so I used this rough sketch to build mine and they came out pretty nice.




This is from your 82? Thanks
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This is good!!!! THANK YOU.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

The "individual" from Bills Boat works is "SkiBum" on here, aka Bill. He pops in less frequently now that he owns a MC, but his stringer thread was really the first of its kind on these forums... I think he inspired a lot of people to tear into their boats!

Trying to find exact stringer dimensions before undertaking your own project is really not necessary. The only real help it will be is to buy the correct amount (and properly sized) pieces of wood. The shaping to the hull will need to be done on a case by case basis anyways, as each boat will vary somewhat, and the amount of glass left behind from the original stringers will vary boat to boat. The only real critical thing is to get things right where the engine will sit- the height off the hull and distance from the shaft log are the main things to concern yourself with. Take a bunch of measurements before the boat is gutted and you'll be fine.


If I remember correctly, someone had already done a stringer job on his boat, which was anything but original. It has failed and he is now redoing the stringer job. I think he wants to get it back to something close. ICBW. Too many stringer repair jobs to keep them straight. BKH
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My 1980 has the metal cradle.

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This should get you started. This was a sketch of the secondaries I found when building mine. My secondaries were already gone when I bought the boat so I used this rough sketch to build mine and they came out pretty nice.

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I've always wondered why there were so many big changes on the 89's, just to be discontinued the next year.   Was this CC "easing" the consumer into the significantly different 90 model? Trivial I guess, just something that came back to me on this thread.

Sorry for the thread Jack, keep up the good work yoopersully, love these threads and especially the pics on the other thread!
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The "individual" from Bills Boat works is "SkiBum" on here, aka Bill. He pops in less frequently now that he owns a MC, but his stringer thread was really the first of its kind on these forums... I think he inspired a lot of people to tear into their boats!

Trying to find exact stringer dimensions before undertaking your own project is really not necessary. The only real help it will be is to buy the correct amount (and properly sized) pieces of wood. The shaping to the hull will need to be done on a case by case basis anyways, as each boat will vary somewhat, and the amount of glass left behind from the original stringers will vary boat to boat. The only real critical thing is to get things right where the engine will sit- the height off the hull and distance from the shaft log are the main things to concern yourself with. Take a bunch of measurements before the boat is gutted and you'll be fine.
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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

I stumbled accross this:
Bills Boat Works

Tim made a reference to an old thread about props and one of the guys, SkiBum, had this in his signature. Not sure how active he is on the site lately, but he has a pretty well documented 2001 rebuild. Not sure if he includes actual specs though.



I did e-mail this individual from Bills Boat works. He replied, that he did not take any measurements of the stringers

But thanks for the the lead.

Actually I was suppose to talk to Brian this past weekend for measurements of his gutted 87 but ran short on time. Hopefully it's not too late. Soon I will have the info I'm after then I will re post the pictures with the dimensions that I have received.
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I stumbled accross this:
Bills Boat Works

Tim made a reference to an old thread about props and one of the guys, SkiBum, had this in his signature. Not sure how active he is on the site lately, but he has a pretty well documented 2001 rebuild. Not sure if he includes actual specs though.
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Tim you are like a Correct Craft encyclopedia. You are a madman, a sick sick madman!
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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

I noticed that too, even the air intake is different, I think the older style snout would have looked crammed in on the 87-89 closed bows.

I guess it's possible that this difference doesn't affect the stringers at all though right? The floor part could still be the same?

The decks on the 82-86 and 87-89 are indeed totally different. The 2 most notable differences are the bow area and the notches on the sides for the step/grab rails.

I dont think anyone was implying that the different deck would have any effect on the stringer shape. Thats a function of the hull shape, which didnt change from 82-89. I cant say Ive noticed a difference in floor height between the 82-86 and 87-89 boats that Ive been in, but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist. The delux interior cushions (which I presume were the same from 84 onward) look like they line up with the deck lines pretty closely though- so I doubt the changes were huge.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

...While the overall length of the deck didnt change (the hull remains the same length on all 2001's), its pretty obvious to me that the length of the closed bow shrunk in 1987.


I noticed that too, even the air intake is different, I think the older style snout would have looked crammed in on the 87-89 closed bows.

I guess it's possible that this difference doesn't affect the stringers at all though right? The floor part could still be the same?
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Originally posted by YooperSully YooperSully wrote:

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by YooperSully YooperSully wrote:

In 84 they widened the mains for the engine cradle so anything after that is a hair wider.

This is the first time Ive heard this. Im sure youre aware that CC started installing cradles in 1980?

Stringer spacing on all non-cradled boats Ive put a tape measure on is right around 21" (inside to inside). The 89+ boats are significantly wider (~26.5") to account for the tabbed cradle. It would be interesting to know the spacing for all non-tabbed cradle versions.


I've been in contact with Art Cozier of Correct Craft. Here's a snipit of the e-mail he sent me.


"I wasn't able to spend enough time with the forums to figure out just who was saying what. I saw some info on there that just isn't right. To the best of my knowledge, the deck length of the 2001 series SN never changed. There was lots of tweaking from year-to-year with floorboard height, but the stringer shape on the bottom remained the same from 1982 through 1989 except when we set them wider apart to accomodate the aluminum engine frame which I think started in 1984."

Art is a great resource for all things Correct Craft but Im not sure that info is correct, as the cradles definitely started in 1980 (see #11), at least on the Ski Nautique. The BFN was a few years later though- perhaps thats what he is thinking about?

Regardless, I would be surprised if the stringer width was different on the 1980-1988 cradled boats than the previous non-cradled boats, as the mounts still secured directly over the stringers- though they were through bolted to the cradle instead of lagged into the wood. Perhaps some pre-89 2001 owners could throw a tape measure between their stringers? The stringers definitely got wider in '89 with the "tabbed" cradle, where the mounts through bolt to tabs welded inward of the stringers. This allowed for a much simpler stringer design- there are no notches on the top side to accomodate through bolts, mount heights, etc.

As far as the deck goes, Im not sure Im following what he's saying. While the overall length of the deck didnt change (the hull remains the same length on all 2001's), its pretty obvious to me that the length of the closed bow shrunk in 1987. The 87-89 boats have much more room between the motorbox and dash- you can easily walk between the box and driver's seat, which was more of a challenge in the 1982-1986 boats.
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mY 82 has the cradle as well. I'll send you and email. BKH
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I have an 83 and it has the aluminum engine frame.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by YooperSully YooperSully wrote:

In 84 they widened the mains for the engine cradle so anything after that is a hair wider.

This is the first time Ive heard this. Im sure youre aware that CC started installing cradles in 1980?

Stringer spacing on all non-cradled boats Ive put a tape measure on is right around 21" (inside to inside). The 89+ boats are significantly wider (~26.5") to account for the tabbed cradle. It would be interesting to know the spacing for all non-tabbed cradle versions.


I've been in contact with Art Cozier of Correct Craft. Here's a snipit of the e-mail he sent me.


"I wasn't able to spend enough time with the forums to figure out just who was saying what. I saw some info on there that just isn't right. To the best of my knowledge, the deck length of the 2001 series SN never changed. There was lots of tweaking from year-to-year with floorboard height, but the stringer shape on the bottom remained the same from 1982 through 1989 except when we set them wider apart to accomodate the aluminum engine frame which I think started in 1984."
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Brian, I'm unable to e-mail you. Mine is rogeresullivan@yahoo.com

Drop me an e-mail and I'll contact you.

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