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    Posted: August-24-2016 at 11:16am
Had that same problem. It means you need to repack the rudder. Like NP said, once the prop wash pushes against the rudder it causes it to bind in the packing. Pick up some bearing grease, new packing from your local marina and about an hour labor and you're good to go. Be careful though because when you remove the stuff off the top of the arm and loosen the packing nut the rudder will drop down and hit the trailer.
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Mark - Thanks for the tips! I had already run the cable with a rope attached so I was happy to see that was a good idea! My 93 has 680 hours and the wheel was major two handed turns all week! Just got back from vacation up north and stripped the boat down and pulled it out. Did the job with my 14 year old. Put him in charge of the dash side and I did the dirty end. - Fred

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Told NP about my issue and they said...

"The rudder would spin freely until it gets in a bind with any pressure on it"
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Bringing back an old thread...

our 95 ski nautique steers effortlessly on the trailer but it's pretty stiff in the water, and very annoying.

Is this the steering cable? why is it perfectly fine on the trailer?
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So, 20ft cable for a 95 Ski Nautique?
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I think they figured out they don't sell many cables if they last 30+ years. I assume the white gunk inside has a specific useful life in time and it gums up to produce a tight cable.
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I agree with ^^ my 76 is on a replacement cable, age is unknown but I'm certain its at least ten years old, dads is 19 and both boats steer and handle like a dream. I just recently bought a new replacement as I know I'm approaching borrowed time. Seems like every 96-2002 boat I looked at this year that had original cable was nearly seized up. My '06 Carolina Skiff is undoubtedly on its last season for a steering cable but granted it sees 90% salt.

In fact on my Skiff I had to remove the "dust" cap off the feed tube about 5 years ago because it kept the old grease in the tube and the old grease dried and seized up the steering.
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Gotta think they handled the older ones differently. The 85 still sports its original and the 86 did until two years ago. 86 had about 1500 hours on the cable.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-15-2015 at 12:19pm
Just re found this thread and wanted to make a comment. I bought a 95 a super sport in '13. Put it away for the winter,and on reuse in the spring found it now took both hands to turn. I cut open the old cable to find out what was going on,it turns out the cable was in perfect shape but that the lubricant had dried out and was actually sort of gummy causing it to bind in the outer jacket. Technically not a cable problem but a lubricant one,but as you know no way to repair.
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Originally posted by dwcar dwcar wrote:

All old cables are due to break when put under stress. It is best to replace if you are worried but you can get many more years of service out of them if you shut it down during a turn and always turn to the left.


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Don, are you planning another get together down here?
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All old cables are due to break when put under stress. It is best to replace if you are worried but you can get many more years of service out of them if you shut it down during a turn and always turn to the left.
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Originally posted by dillon5 dillon5 wrote:

First, talk to the good folks at www.Nautiqueparts.com in White Lake, NC. I came very close to ordering the $277.00 OEM steering cable which is 19-1/2ft. long, but decided to call them for advice. They told me the standard, 20ft. teleflex cable works just fine and it was much less- just a little over $180.00 including shipping and taxes,


Skidim's website says:
* 1982 and up Correct Craft's use a proprietary length cable only available from a CC dealer. Exceptions Nautique 226, 2007 up Nautique 210, 220, 230, 236 use a 21' Teleflex Rack cable.
* Steermaster MK III cables are NLA, the Uflex Rotary System is the replacement and requires you to enlarge the mounting hole in the dash.

I'm wondering if I can go with a Teleflex cable too. But if so, what length for the Sport?
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Everybody,
One of my questions was never answered - do you think I need to put the four small SS washers between the pinion and the steering rack?
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thanks for the thread. replacing my cable in next few weeks.
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Hey Mark,

I think were on the same page, so far here is my list

-replaced carb, fuel pump, plugs, wires, when purchased. boat sat for three years without being in water and carb was all fouled up. put new one on and runs perfect
-replaced steering cable
-changed fluids and winterized myself
-just built a ski/wakeboard rack for fly-high pole last night, I will try to post pictures later, turned out pretty sweet
-purchased new 1442 acme prop, cant wait to see the difference from old to new

to-do list
-put new wood nob on shift lever
-install new depth finder
-going to use herculiner roll on liner on the keel to protect
-reupholster back 3 seats, they have some cracks
-install new head unit for stereo, need one to play ipod

I think thats about it for now, nothing to major, just some little things to do. good luck with your projects

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Hey Mark - Looks like we made similar purchases last fall. Looking forward to this coming summer as I give my 95 some much needed TLC over the winter, which is unusually cold for NC. Keep me apprised of your maintenance. So far I have done the following:
- replaced steering cable
- winterized with anti-freeze
- refinshed platform
- replaced various gas shocks.
- turned a new walnut knob on my lathe for the throttle
- repacked prop shaft
- replaced trailer bunk carpet
- relocated bow-stop on trailer - it was sitting too far forward.

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It's got to have something to do with the cables they make these days as I know that it is not unusual for a 1-3 year old Malibus to need a cable. I used to see people post about it often on themalibucrew. I think putting it away clean helps prolong the life.
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Jody,I realize as a hobbyist I don't have any experence,but I have not had any trouble with mine.Here are some pictures of my low hour trailer queen when I got it 20 years ago.It has to this day the original cable.As you can see it never had water in it either    
My Dad has his '78 Shamrock,a 20+ year saltwater boat,with the original cable and sold his '87 after 20 years of saltwater with it's original one too.This boat owned since new had over 1100 hours
I'll bet the new ones quality is not as good as the older ones,but like the Japanese of the '50's the Chinese will turn things around.




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60's and 70's boats if they have lasted till now with out special restoring yes are predomitly low hour boats. We had a 82 2001 that we put about 400 hours a year on for about three years, after two years we had to install a new steering cable and exhaust manifolds, that cable lasted the next six years because we got a MasterCraft and did not utilize the Nautique for more than about 20-30 hours a year. We sold that boat in 89 and to this day it still has the second cable in it But again it only gets 10-20 hours a year and has now become a trailer queen and the guy that owns it has called of course looking for a cable for that boat.
About 30% of the time other problems with in the steering system are masking what the owners deem to be cable problems most of these issues are dry rudder port and in some cases grawdu in the stabilizer tube. Some with the early Teleflex Rack and pinion can have the rubber boot over the tilt mechinisim not seated correctly and bind between the wheel hub and the tilt unit, one min fix!
I have never seen a cable that worked correctly after 700 hours of use they either have to much play in them or are stiff. I think for safety sake for your passangers and fellow boaters The steering cable is an Item that needs to be replaced after 500-700 hours or excessive time in years (what that number is I dont know but 10 years IMHO is to much) anyway their is no way to take the sealed unit apart and inspect it.
Pete You might want to leave the floating furniture in the barn get your trailer queen ski boat out on the water quit pulling tubes go pull real skiers, barefooter's and maybe even load up the phat sac's and pull boarders and surfers for 400 hours or more this summer and come back and tell us what you had to repair or replace. we can compare repair lists against my 500 plus that we will put on our new 200.
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For the record, our 88 had 1900 hours when I put it on the trailer and sold it to Ryan. Had the original cable and spun extremely well.   
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Jody,
When posting my above comments, you came to mind and I wondered what you'd have to say!

So, as I read your responce, I clearly get the idea that all ski boat steering systems are not meant for higher hours and wet bilges and should be "trailer queens" or on a lift all the time!

60's and 70's boats aren't high hours?

Better quality steering systems are out there but of course do cost more.


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It is not the idea of CC switched to the cheap ones! MasterCraft, Malibu and all the inboard manufacturers utilize the same product across the board for the most part. Cable failure is very previalant in all the brands of boats in the inboard world. Teleflex Morse is the manufacturer of these cables and You might need to rephraise too they dont build them like they used too.
Correct Craft / Nautiques do a better job of routing their cables and do not bind them in radical bends I can not say the same for the other manufacturers. I find myself changing out more other brand boats cables then Correct crafts.
One of the biggest cable killers is an overabundence of bilge water. I would be willing to bet that you all that claim your 60's and 70's cables are still going great are in boats that I classify as trailer queens, They maybe get 20-30 hours a year and spend most of their lives either on a nice boat house lift or on the trailer in a garage. Normal service life for a cable is between 400 and 600 hours. Go put 300 hours on your boat this summer in a slalom course or heavy wakeboard use enviorment and see how long your old system holds up. Again the majiority amount of cables I cnage out are in 400 plus hour boats. Over at the ski school (Cory's) he has a 2600 hour 08 boat that we have put two cables in, so in 2600 hours and counting the original he got about 870 hours per cable , Not Bad!
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Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:


Seriously I can't believe how many of these newer boats need cables,they must not be made the same as the old ones.


Gary you beat me too it The 73 got a new steering cable in 2004 which is a pretty good run. Does sound like the new ones break sooner.

I too have to agree and am always amazed at the cable failure rate. The steering systems in my 64 and 77 are still going great!! I know plenty of 60's and 70's boats with original systems that are still great. CC must have switched to the cheap ones!!!


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Thanks for all the info and advice guys. I read Jody's blog which was a lot of good information.

My question after reading it is whether or not to install the four small stainless-steel washers between the pinion and the steering rack. They were not there when I removed it, and it seems to work fine now, but I want to do it right. Next time I do this I will upgrade to the newer pinion assembly so I can use the new Teleflex Extreme cable, but hopefully that won't be for a while.

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Originally posted by storm34 storm34 wrote:

I fought with wine for a while and finally learned a trick to getting the new cable started or the old one out-Thanks to Jody Seal.


Yea your not supposed to fight it just accept it.Or just drink beer instead.
Seriously I can't believe how many of these newer boats need cables,they must not be made the same as the old ones.


Gary you beat me too it The 73 got a new steering cable in 2004 which is a pretty good run. Does sound like the new ones break sooner.
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...trust me, I was drinking enough beer that night. I couldn't hardly get the cable started and had a few choice words for it before I gave up. If it weren't for the guys here I would have never got that dang thing back together. Once you know the trick of the trade it's a breeze!
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Originally posted by storm34 storm34 wrote:

I fought with wine for a while and finally learned a trick to getting the new cable started or the old one out-Thanks to Jody Seal.


Yea your not supposed to fight it just accept it.Or just drink beer instead.
Seriously I can't believe how many of these newer boats need cables,they must not be made the same as the old ones.
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Some more Steering cable talk and good information from Jody Seal can be found here
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